Updating Win 7 to Win 10

Hi all,
Can the windows 10 download which is 3.11 GB be used on more than
one computer, or has it got to be downloaded from each computer fresh?
Thanks for any help.
Mick.

On 2015-08-03 9:39 AM, Mick IOW wrote:
Hi all,
Can the windows 10 download which is 3.11 GB be used on more than
one computer, or has it got to be downloaded from each computer fresh?
Thanks for any help.
Mick.


If you created a bootable DVD or USB disk you can use it to upgrade
other computer with the same version.

HS

On 2015-08-03 9:39 AM, Mick IOW wrote:
Hi all,
Can the windows 10 download which is 3.11 GB be used on more than
one computer, or has it got to be downloaded from each computer fresh?
Thanks for any help.
Mick.


If you created a bootable DVD or USB disk you can use it to upgrade
other computer with the same version.

HS

Mick IOW wrote on 08/03/2015 9:39 AM:
Hi all,
Can the windows 10 download which is 3.11 GB be used on more than
one computer, or has it got to be downloaded from each computer fresh?
Thanks for any help.
Mick.


Depends on which download you are asking about
The bits pushed down via Windows Update ?
- No

The bits that create a usb or dev by use of the Media Creation Tool ?
- Yes

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

Mick IOW wrote:

Can the windows 10 download ...

Windows 10 newsgroup is over at --- alt.comp.os.windows-10

Sorry, I entered "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in Agent 8 "Tools/Newsgroup
Directory" and it came up blank! Please advise!

Bill

On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:18:07 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Mick IOW wrote:

Can the windows 10 download ...

Windows 10 newsgroup is over at --- alt.comp.os.windows-10

Bill wrote:
Sorry, I entered "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in Agent 8 "Tools/Newsgroup
Directory" and it came up blank! Please advise!

Bill

1) Alt.* groups do not have automated distribution
from server to server. A customer contacts their
server admin, to request groups from that hierarchy.

The big-8 groups have signed newgroup messages distributed
from server to server, to ensure a more uniform newsgroup
list. Alt.* is not a member of big-8.

At one time, alt.* had such a system too. But it was
abused by hackers, so all the system administrators
turned off the receiver on their server for it. Hackers
were making vanity groups, such as alt.bill-sucks...
and so on. There might have been 100,000 groups in
alt.* at the peak.

2) Most likely, your server already has the named group.
It's not like your server admin just fell off the
turnip truck.

3) If you *refresh* the group list, the group should
show up. No need to pester the administrator, unless
you've proved (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that
the group really isn't there.

Note - Google is too stupid to add the group we're
posting in, or the windows-10 one to the dejanews archive.
So if you were thinking "I'll just search google-groups
to find the information I want", the postings should
not be in there. Google captured alt.* group list at some
point, and included all the alt.* it found at the
time. After that point in time, there is no interface
to Google to request the new ones be added. And Google
would have no "common sense" way to determine they
were legitimate groups. For all I know, several windows-10
groups could have been created, and on different pools
of servers, and I would never know. Google lacks the
initiative to do anything... No money in it.

HTH,
Paul

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:41:17 -0400, Paul wrote:

1) Alt.* groups do not have automated distribution
from server to server. A customer contacts their
server admin, to request groups from that hierarchy.

The big-8 groups have signed newgroup messages distributed
from server to server, to ensure a more uniform newsgroup
list. Alt.* is not a member of big-8.

At one time, alt.* had such a system too. But it was
abused by hackers, so all the system administrators
turned off the receiver on their server for it. Hackers
were making vanity groups, such as alt.bill-sucks...
and so on. There might have been 100,000 groups in
alt.* at the peak.

'at the peak' implies that groups somehow go away. It's rare to find that a
group has been deleted, so as new groups get created the total continues to
grow. The actual number will vary from server to server, but on my NSP I
count 109,382 today.


--

Char Jackson

Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:41:17 -0400, Paul wrote:

1) Alt.* groups do not have automated distribution
from server to server. A customer contacts their
server admin, to request groups from that hierarchy.

The big-8 groups have signed newgroup messages distributed
from server to server, to ensure a more uniform newsgroup
list. Alt.* is not a member of big-8.

At one time, alt.* had such a system too. But it was
abused by hackers, so all the system administrators
turned off the receiver on their server for it. Hackers
were making vanity groups, such as alt.bill-sucks...
and so on. There might have been 100,000 groups in
alt.* at the peak.

'at the peak' implies that groups somehow go away. It's rare to find that a
group has been deleted, so as new groups get created the total continues to
grow. The actual number will vary from server to server, but on my NSP I
count 109,382 today.

My acid test, is I check my server to see if I have an
alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork . I don't have one here,
and the lack of one tells me the administrator did some
housecleaning (presumably based on traffic level or
some other criterion).

http://www.everything2.com/title/alt...bork.bork.bork

Some small server operators, don't have the disk space
on their rental server, for everything. It can also
speed up rebuilds, if they're not hosting empty trash
groups.

Paul

Thanks guys, but I tried refreshing my server - news80.forteinc.com -
then tried searching again and nothing on Windows 10 was found!

Bill

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:50:06 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-08-11 09:12, Bill wrote:
Sorry, I entered "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in Agent 8 "Tools/Newsgroup
Directory" and it came up blank! Please advise!

Bill

Have you refreshed or updated the newsgroups list? Most newsreaders keep
a local list of what's available from the news server.

HTH

In message , Bill
writes
Thanks guys, but I tried refreshing my server - news80.forteinc.com -
then tried searching again and nothing on Windows 10 was found!

Time to add a free server that does carry alt.comp.os.windows-10. The
following certainly do:
news.eternal-september.org
freenews.netfront.net
nntp.aioe.org

--
Ian

On 8/11/2015 3:25 PM, Bill wrote:
Thanks guys, but I tried refreshing my server - news80.forteinc.com -
then tried searching again and nothing on Windows 10 was found!

Bill

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:50:06 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-08-11 09:12, Bill wrote:
Sorry, I entered "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in Agent 8 "Tools/Newsgroup
Directory" and it came up blank! Please advise!

Bill

Have you refreshed or updated the newsgroups list? Most newsreaders keep
a local list of what's available from the news server.

HTH
I'm using the same server and it shows. The only difference is I'm using
Thunderbird.

Bill wrote:
Thanks guys, but I tried refreshing my server - news80.forteinc.com -
then tried searching again and nothing on Windows 10 was found!

Bill

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:50:06 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-08-11 09:12, Bill wrote:
Sorry, I entered "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in Agent 8 "Tools/Newsgroup
Directory" and it came up blank! Please advise!

Bill
Have you refreshed or updated the newsgroups list? Most newsreaders keep
a local list of what's available from the news server.

HTH

In the history of USENET clients, the newsgroup list (newsrc)
is a text file. Try looking at where Forte stores the groups
or messages or whatever, and see if the newsgroup list is
present. Make a copy of the file, move to your work area,
change the file extension to .txt, and open with Notepad
or Wordpad for a look.

Assuming you got that far, use Find in Notepad and
see if you can locate the group that way.

I've been known on occasion, to use the group search
function in my client program, and walk right past the
thing I'm looking for. Checking with Notepad or Wordpad
first, is a way to assure yourself that you should not
give up.

Paul

Well, I got a response from Forte and the tech pointed me in the right
direction! I now have "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in my desk window!
Thanks to you all!

Bill

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:43:32 -0400, Paul wrote:

Bill wrote:
Thanks guys, but I tried refreshing my server - news80.forteinc.com -
then tried searching again and nothing on Windows 10 was found!

Bill

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:50:06 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-08-11 09:12, Bill wrote:
Sorry, I entered "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in Agent 8 "Tools/Newsgroup
Directory" and it came up blank! Please advise!

Bill
Have you refreshed or updated the newsgroups list? Most newsreaders keep
a local list of what's available from the news server.

HTH

In the history of USENET clients, the newsgroup list (newsrc)
is a text file. Try looking at where Forte stores the groups
or messages or whatever, and see if the newsgroup list is
present. Make a copy of the file, move to your work area,
change the file extension to .txt, and open with Notepad
or Wordpad for a look.

Assuming you got that far, use Find in Notepad and
see if you can locate the group that way.

I've been known on occasion, to use the group search
function in my client program, and walk right past the
thing I'm looking for. Checking with Notepad or Wordpad
first, is a way to assure yourself that you should not
give up.

Paul

Sorry, I should have said that the Forte rep said:

1. In the lower right of the Newsgroup Directory make sure your server
has
"Yes" next to it. If it doesn't just double click the server name.

2. Uncheck the box "Show only new newsgroups (found on last date).

It appears that my problem had to do with my having the wrong server
selected. I did NOT have a "Yes" next to "news80.forteinc.com".

Bill

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:37:28 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:50:25 -0700, Bill wrote:

Well, I got a response from Forte and the tech pointed me in the right
direction! I now have "alt.comp.os.windows-10" in my desk window!
Thanks to you all!


So? What were you told to do?