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  #46  
Old October 20th 04, 02:11 AM
Bruce Chambers
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Prabhat wrote:
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I
should Go For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat



Having seen the results of inexperienced people using automated
registry "cleaners," I can only advise to you to avoid them all.

The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

I always use Regedit.exe. I trust my own experience and judgment
far more than I would any automated registry cleaner.

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  #47  
Old October 20th 04, 02:41 AM
Phil McCracken
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Lester Stiefel wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:25:51 -0700, XS11E wrote:


"Testy" wrote in
m:


The main problem with all registry cleaners is that if you don't
know what you are doing you can trash your system, And if you do
know what you are doing you don't need them.


I'll disagree with the last, a registry cleaner is usually much faster
than manually going through the registry.



Try searching Tucows for System utilities, and Registry Cleaners or
Editors. There are at least 3 editors (freeware) and 3 cleaners (free &
share).
I currently use Norton System Works which has a decent file shredder,
registry cleaner AV and internet tools (for $89)
Tools tried are Vilma Rege Explorer (free) and Oberon (share $35), awa
Resplendent Registrar - editor. I favor one that can present a list at the
bottom of all known inferences to a search item (like the old Norton editor
for 98/me). There are many, many more out there. Try them and then decide
which ones best suit your needs.


Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools...
  #48  
Old October 20th 04, 02:42 AM
Phil McCracken
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Unknown wrote:

Ah, but it is with an objective basis in fact. Your problem is simply
that you haven't tested or tried it but merely have a great fear of the
registry. Preserve your ignorance.
"Phil McCracken" wrote in message
...

Unknown wrote:

What you fail to recognize is that a registry cleaner finds items
that are not associated with anything else (a useless key).
Problem is that you don't have a list of what to search for. Hence,
you cannot clean your registry.



What you fail to recognize is that there doesn't seem to be any
reliable objective evidence that "useless" entries cause any problems.
If you believe it does you some good, and it makes you happy, that's
fine. But it's irresponsible to tout registry cleaning if the basis
for your recommendation is without an objective basis in fact.



Post your data. Hint: "I know what I know" ain't data.
  #49  
Old October 20th 04, 07:43 AM
Don Burnette
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You will learn much by just perusing these forums Carolann.

In general, leaving the registry alone in XP is good advice - it does a
great job of taking care of the registry on it's own.
Now, I have the registered version of System Mechanic, and I do use it to
fix my registry, as well as delete obsolete files. I have used it for about
a year or so, and have not had any problems with it. I am careful about what
I allow it to delete, and typically it mainly finds the true safe stuff to
delete. Do I gain anything from this? I don't know, I do many things to keep
my pc in top notch shape with routine maintenance on a weekly basis.

Leaving well enough alone though sounds like a good idea.


--
Don Burnette

Carolann wrote:
I am very new to xp 3 days infact and broadband at the same time
(nightmare) and gone grey, on winme I had a reg cleaner so installed
it on new system. And I have been having problems so deleted it
because sometimes when I picked up the phone dsl would disconected. I
started getting error messages too, as it was the last thing I
installed I deleted it. found another download of another sort, same
thing happened again. I read this message AND LEAVING WELL ALONE on
this advice, I have never been here before and think its brilliant.
will keep coming back
cheers
Carol

"Prabhat" wrote:

Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I
should Go For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat







  #50  
Old October 20th 04, 08:17 AM
Prabhat
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Hi,

I also got System Mechanic. That is Cool to Fix any Reg problems. But Still
we should use that Only if there are Lots of Uninstall for any Trial or Demo
Softwares. Else Lets leave the Registry to XP.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Don Burnette" wrote in message
...
You will learn much by just perusing these forums Carolann.

In general, leaving the registry alone in XP is good advice - it does a
great job of taking care of the registry on it's own.
Now, I have the registered version of System Mechanic, and I do use it to
fix my registry, as well as delete obsolete files. I have used it for

about
a year or so, and have not had any problems with it. I am careful about

what
I allow it to delete, and typically it mainly finds the true safe stuff

to
delete. Do I gain anything from this? I don't know, I do many things to

keep
my pc in top notch shape with routine maintenance on a weekly basis.

Leaving well enough alone though sounds like a good idea.


--
Don Burnette

Carolann wrote:
I am very new to xp 3 days infact and broadband at the same time
(nightmare) and gone grey, on winme I had a reg cleaner so installed
it on new system. And I have been having problems so deleted it
because sometimes when I picked up the phone dsl would disconected. I
started getting error messages too, as it was the last thing I
installed I deleted it. found another download of another sort, same
thing happened again. I read this message AND LEAVING WELL ALONE on
this advice, I have never been here before and think its brilliant.
will keep coming back
cheers
Carol

"Prabhat" wrote:

Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I
should Go For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat









  #51  
Old October 20th 04, 08:36 AM
Prabhat
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Hi Bruce,

Thanks. I agree with you. The best way is regedit.exe. But some time we may
require some registry cleaner.

1st thing I do using the Regedit I clean what ever I found wrong. I only use
the System Mechanic when I uninstall any Trial or Demo Softwares.
I found the Microsoft RegClean is also doing better even with XP, But we
can't see the things before we do - but we can see what we have removed
after Process. Which might be danger. So System Mechanic is Worth having if
some body want it.

Thanks
Prabhat

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Prabhat wrote:
Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I
should Go For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat



Having seen the results of inexperienced people using automated
registry "cleaners," I can only advise to you to avoid them all.

The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

I always use Regedit.exe. I trust my own experience and judgment
far more than I would any automated registry cleaner.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having
both at once. - RAH





  #52  
Old October 20th 04, 10:19 PM
Unknown
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

IF!
"Phil McCracken" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:

What you fail to recognize is that a registry cleaner finds items that are
not associated with anything else (a useless key).
Problem is that you don't have a list of what to search for. Hence, you
cannot clean your registry.


What you fail to recognize is that there doesn't seem to be any reliable
objective evidence that "useless" entries cause any problems. If you believe
it does you some good, and it makes you happy, that's fine. But it's
irresponsible to tout registry cleaning if the basis for your recommendation
is without an objective basis in fact.


  #53  
Old October 20th 04, 10:23 PM
Unknown
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

I believe it is irresponsible for you to scare the wits out of anyone wanting
to clean up the registry. People learn by doing.
The fear that you spread is far more damaging than a registry cleaner that
burps because the deletions by the cleaner can be reversed.
"Phil McCracken" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:

What you fail to recognize is that a registry cleaner finds items that are
not associated with anything else (a useless key).
Problem is that you don't have a list of what to search for. Hence, you
cannot clean your registry.


What you fail to recognize is that there doesn't seem to be any reliable
objective evidence that "useless" entries cause any problems. If you believe
it does you some good, and it makes you happy, that's fine. But it's
irresponsible to tout registry cleaning if the basis for your recommendation
is without an objective basis in fact.


  #54  
Old October 20th 04, 10:41 PM
Bill Gates the 33rd
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Well, as for the ORIGINAL POST !
Try RegscrubXP ( Free) Search www.google.com for it.
Works well and also give you lots of Really good XP tips and Tweaks.
P.S.
Using it to get rid of "Dead Weight Registry Entries" does speed up the
system.


  #55  
Old October 20th 04, 10:51 PM
Bill Gates the 33rd
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

David, was it "Daughter or Daughters" ???

You rank right up there with John Kerry for spreading that information
(Private Information at that) around.

Be careful, Bush is watching you !!


  #56  
Old October 20th 04, 11:07 PM
Ted Zieglar
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"The fear that you spread is far more damaging than a registry cleaner that
burps because the deletions by the cleaner can be reversed."

Huh? In the first place, Phil is not 'spreading fear', he is advocating
safety. Secondly, would you call it a "burp" when someone's system becomes
seriously unstable through ill-advised registry 'cleaning'?

And last: How would you propose that a user 'reverse' a change made to the
registry - presuming that the user even knows what change to reverse - when
their system can no longer boot?
--
Ted Zieglar


"Unknown" wrote in message
m...
I believe it is irresponsible for you to scare the wits out of anyone

wanting
to clean up the registry. People learn by doing.
The fear that you spread is far more damaging than a registry cleaner that
burps because the deletions by the cleaner can be reversed.
"Phil McCracken" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:

What you fail to recognize is that a registry cleaner finds items that

are
not associated with anything else (a useless key).
Problem is that you don't have a list of what to search for. Hence, you
cannot clean your registry.


What you fail to recognize is that there doesn't seem to be any reliable
objective evidence that "useless" entries cause any problems. If you

believe
it does you some good, and it makes you happy, that's fine. But it's
irresponsible to tout registry cleaning if the basis for your

recommendation
is without an objective basis in fact.




  #57  
Old October 20th 04, 11:32 PM
Lee Chapelle
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"David Senior [MVP - Most Valuable Provocateur]"
wrote in message ...
Go for Norton Utilities which comes with Norton's systems Work. You can't
go wrong with tried and tested products.


Norton AntiVirus retail editions are serious bloatware and should be avoided
at all costs, unless you enjoy the sound of hard disks grinding.

Lee


  #58  
Old October 20th 04, 11:45 PM
Bill Gates the 33rd
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Well Said, Lee.
Norton should be avoided just as surely as AOL.

"Lee Chapelle" wrote in message
...

"David Senior [MVP - Most Valuable Provocateur]"
wrote in message ...
Go for Norton Utilities which comes with Norton's systems Work. You
can't go wrong with tried and tested products.


Norton AntiVirus retail editions are serious bloatware and should be
avoided at all costs, unless you enjoy the sound of hard disks grinding.

Lee



  #59  
Old October 21st 04, 03:00 AM
David Senior [MVP - Most Valuable Provocateur]
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Go for Norton Utilities which comes with Norton's systems Work. You can't go wrong with tried and tested products. The reason M$ stopped supporting old Reg Cleaner is because it was crap! It was written by a bored M programmer who wanted to prove to his peers that he is a good programmer to keep his job.

Hope this helps.
Dick Chenney's (VP USA) daughters are lesbians and the whole world now knows it thanks to John Kerry for letting us know!!!

Prabhat wrote:

Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat


--
I use non Microsoft products wherever possible which requires no activation.

I use Netscape 7.2 as my default browser which has everything I need for my work.

I believe in good Financial Management!! I do not believe in enriching rich jerks!



  #60  
Old October 21st 04, 03:00 AM
David Senior [MVP - Most Valuable Provocateur]
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Default Which Registry Cleaner?

Go for Norton Utilities which comes with Norton's systems Work. You can't go wrong with tried and tested products. The reason M$ stopped supporting old Reg Cleaner is because it was crap! It was written by a bored M programmer who wanted to prove to his peers that he is a good programmer to keep his job.

Hope this helps.
Dick Chenney's (VP USA) daughters are lesbians and the whole world now knows it thanks to John Kerry for letting us know!!!

Prabhat wrote:

Hi All,

I have XP + SP1. I use Microsoft OLD RegClean.

Is this the Best Registry Cleaner Available? Or If not which one I should Go
For my XP System?

Thanks
Prabhat


--
I use non Microsoft products wherever possible which requires no activation.

I use Netscape 7.2 as my default browser which has everything I need for my work.

I believe in good Financial Management!! I do not believe in enriching rich jerks!





 




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