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Old August 29th 04, 01:21 PM
Petebert
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Default get rid of security center?

every day the security center pops up when I boot to tell me my system may
not be secure, and if I want to I can put the check mark next to I'll
monitor my firewall myself and the next time I boot it the check mark is
gone and the security center balloon is up again, is there a way to disable
this entire program, I've been monitoring my own AV, firewall and getting
windows updates for years.



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Old August 29th 04, 02:24 PM
Ramesh [MVP]
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Default get rid of security center?

Security Center alert on every startup - Windows XP SP2:
http://www.winxptutor.com/sp2/seccenteralert.htm

-or-

Just disable the Security Center service via Services.msc applet.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Window XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k


"Petebert" wrote in message
...
every day the security center pops up when I boot to tell me my system may
not be secure, and if I want to I can put the check mark next to I'll
monitor my firewall myself and the next time I boot it the check mark is
gone and the security center balloon is up again, is there a way to disable
this entire program, I've been monitoring my own AV, firewall and getting
windows updates for years.




  #3  
Old August 30th 04, 12:53 AM
dave_bass5
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Default get rid of security center?

If you open Security Center in Control panel and click on "change the way
security center alerts me" you can untick the firewall bit.

Dave.

"Ramesh [MVP]" wrote:

Security Center alert on every startup - Windows XP SP2:
http://www.winxptutor.com/sp2/seccenteralert.htm

-or-

Just disable the Security Center service via Services.msc applet.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Window XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k


"Petebert" wrote in message
...
every day the security center pops up when I boot to tell me my system may
not be secure, and if I want to I can put the check mark next to I'll
monitor my firewall myself and the next time I boot it the check mark is
gone and the security center balloon is up again, is there a way to disable
this entire program, I've been monitoring my own AV, firewall and getting
windows updates for years.





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Old August 30th 04, 01:09 AM
Testy
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Default get rid of security center?

Much better to just disable it. It is a pretty stupid "feature" anyway.

Testy

"dave_bass5" wrote in message
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If you open Security Center in Control panel and click on "change the way
security center alerts me" you can untick the firewall bit.

Dave.

"Ramesh [MVP]" wrote:

Security Center alert on every startup - Windows XP SP2:
http://www.winxptutor.com/sp2/seccenteralert.htm

-or-

Just disable the Security Center service via Services.msc applet.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Window XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k


"Petebert" wrote in message
...
every day the security center pops up when I boot to tell me my system
may
not be secure, and if I want to I can put the check mark next to I'll
monitor my firewall myself and the next time I boot it the check mark is
gone and the security center balloon is up again, is there a way to
disable
this entire program, I've been monitoring my own AV, firewall and getting
windows updates for years.







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Old August 30th 04, 02:48 AM
Al
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Default get rid of security center?

So is the newer Windows Update with SP2. The SP2 version-5 of WU will =
not work, unless you have the resource hogging Automatic Updates and =
Background Intelligent Transfer Service turned on in Services console. =
Under the previous version, you could simply go into WU, then scan, and =
it would see what one needs, and I had MS send me alerts by email for =
security and critical updates. It won't now without them on, and if one =
doesn't have the Security setting for asking you, it will install ALL =
updates (possibly some which are *recommended* in status) which can =
screw up things.

It sucks, but I don't want them running, and when I need to check, I =
have to turn these services on to do so. Why not just let us scan =
manually. MS treats users like they know what's best, by having to have =
these turned on. The point is, they have to scan anyway, but I sometimes =
think this is a form of spying too, and invasion of my PC privacy, =
resource usage!



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Much better to just disable it. It is a pretty stupid "feature" =

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If you open Security Center in Control panel and click on "change the =

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security center alerts me" you can untick the firewall bit.

Dave.

"Ramesh [MVP]" wrote:

Security Center alert on every startup - Windows XP SP2:
http://www.winxptutor.com/sp2/seccenteralert.htm

-or-

Just disable the Security Center service via Services.msc applet.

--=20
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Window XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k


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Old August 30th 04, 01:17 PM
dave_bass5
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Default get rid of security center?

I think it still pops a window up every now and again even if you disable it
from Security center, thats why you still need to disable alerts (i have had
this on 3 machines)

Dave

"Testy" wrote:

Much better to just disable it. It is a pretty stupid "feature" anyway.

Testy

"dave_bass5" wrote in message
...
If you open Security Center in Control panel and click on "change the way
security center alerts me" you can untick the firewall bit.

Dave.

"Ramesh [MVP]" wrote:

Security Center alert on every startup - Windows XP SP2:
http://www.winxptutor.com/sp2/seccenteralert.htm

-or-

Just disable the Security Center service via Services.msc applet.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Window XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k


"Petebert" wrote in message
...
every day the security center pops up when I boot to tell me my system
may
not be secure, and if I want to I can put the check mark next to I'll
monitor my firewall myself and the next time I boot it the check mark is
gone and the security center balloon is up again, is there a way to
disable
this entire program, I've been monitoring my own AV, firewall and getting
windows updates for years.







---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 8/27/2004



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Old September 6th 04, 06:56 AM
howiezows
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Default get rid of security center?

I've posted a solution to this on other threads. I'll post the info
here too, but here's a link the post I put on dslreports.com which has
some screenshots to help reference the step-by-step procedure I
outline. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...3428~mode=flat

The solution I came up with:

I have come up with a solution that does not disable Security Center,
but keeps the Alerts settings you choose:

I believe a component of Symantec is resetting the alerts by making
changes in the registry key that controls whether alerts are on or
off. (Other products might be doing this too, besides Symantec, but
this procedure should work regardless.)

By changing the Permissions of that key, you can keep the
settings from being changed again. I posted the following procedure
at broadbandreports.com yesterday, so I'm going to paste the text
he

I will type a lot here, to help those needing the background info, but
I DO have a potential fix for this, scan down to where I write:
"----FIX----"

Not well documented issue in which (apparently) having a Symantec
products (Norton Antivirus, Internet Security) keeps resetting the XP
Windows Security Center settings to notify/alert that Firewall (or
other) aspect is not enabled.

After searching countless threads, so far the only option is to
disable the Security Center service completely. In my case I do not
want to run a software firewall, but am using Norton Antivirus 2004.
After each reboot, the firewall alert settings in Security Center get
wiped out, and reset to "Alert me if my computer might be at risk
because of my firewall settings." There are some discussions pointing
to Symantec security feature that restores the setting each time. I'm
sure they'll eventually come up with a patched file, but until then
this is what I have found will prevent the setting from changing.
(Other, more expert users, please chime in if there is a spin on this
that would be better!")

----FIX----

Solution is to change the permissions for the registry key which
handles Security Center Alert settings. By preventing the System
account from changing the value, the choices you make "stay put". You
should be doing this while logged in as a member of Administrators
group, by the way.

1) Use regedit to go to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Security Center

The subkeys within are what change (either "0" or "1") when you change
your Alert settings within the Security Center.

AntiVirusDisableNotify
AntiVirusOverride
FirewallDisableNotify
FirewallOverride
UpdatesDisableNotify

A value of "1" engages the option, so to disable Firewall alerts, the
value should be "1"

2) Now, to stop these values changing from what you WANT, you must
highlight the Security Center key name, and right click on it (or use
Edit menu) and choose Permissions.

3) Click Advanced, under the Permissions tab, Permission entries,
select the SYSTEM (in the Name column) and click Edit.

4) In the Deny column (should start out all unchecked) click to select
the Set Value checkbox, and click OK. This way we create an exception
to the normal permissions of the SYSTEM account for this subkey ONLY.

5) When you click Apply or OK next, a warning is displayed regarding
setting a "deny" permission. If you are following the above, then the
only change to permissions are for this specifc subkey (Security
Center) and it poses no threat. Click Yes to continue. Click OK to
exit the last dialog box. You are done. (If you go go back to
permissions, Advanced, you see a new permission entry has been created
for SYSTEM to Deny Set Value. If and when you want to reverse the
registry adjustment we just made, simply highlight that new entry and
click the Remove button.)

NOTE!! The effect of this permissions change means that making changes
within the Security Center graphical interface for Alerts settings
will have NO EFFECT on the registry after this until such time as you
go back to the registry key and remove the one deny permission you
created. Unless you reverse the registry change, the only way to
change the alerting options is changing the above subkeys to zeros or
ones using regedit. Remember this is just a registry change for the
*alerting* options, it does not change the operation of the Security
Center in any other or negative way.

Hope this helps people who have been as frustrated as I.
 




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