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  #16  
Old October 2nd 13, 12:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG
wrote:

I'm a long-time WinXPpro user. I'm wondering how familiar will Win8
with Classic Shell http://www.classicshell.net/ look to me? Will
there still be a long learning curve?


You will find it very similar, but not exactly the same. How long it
will take to get accustomed to it depends on you.

And by the way, as far as I'm concerned Start 8 (not free, but very
inexpensive--only $4.99) will make the Windows 8 interface even more
like the older interfaces, and that's what I recommend.



After using Classic Shell, I will agree that Start 8 is much
better.....especially for free if you can find it


As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?


http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/88666...ack_by_Painter)

Virus total scan results

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/f...is/1380711297/
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  #17  
Old October 2nd 13, 03:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Posts: 3,817
Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG
wrote:


snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?


http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/88666...ack_by_Painter)

Virus total scan results

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/f...is/1380711297/


So, you believe in stealing?????



--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
  #18  
Old October 2nd 13, 03:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Posts: 868
Default Classic Shell

On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG
wrote:


snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?


snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????


And for a measly $5 even.

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
  #19  
Old October 2nd 13, 03:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_43_]
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Posts: 516
Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG
wrote:


snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????


And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft. You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.
  #20  
Old October 2nd 13, 03:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Classic Shell vs Start 8




After using Classic Shell, I will agree that Start 8 is much
better.....especially for free if you can find it


I have "Classic Shell" installed --- will something like
Revo Uninstaller or Absolute Uninstaller get me back to
Win 8 so that I can try Start 8??


  #21  
Old October 2nd 13, 04:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Posts: 3,817
Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG
wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????


And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft. You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?


I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
  #22  
Old October 2nd 13, 05:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_43_]
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Posts: 516
Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft. You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?


I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.
  #23  
Old October 2nd 13, 05:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Posts: 3,817
Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft. You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?


I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?


Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft. The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
  #24  
Old October 2nd 13, 05:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ian Jackson
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Posts: 168
Default Classic Shell

In message , Ken Springer
writes
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft. You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?


Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft. The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.

When someone here refers to "for free", one would assume it refers to it
being "freeware", and not something being pirated.
--
Ian
  #25  
Old October 2nd 13, 06:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Nil[_2_]
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Posts: 2,170
Default Classic Shell vs Start 8

On 02 Oct 2013, wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I have "Classic Shell" installed --- will something like
Revo Uninstaller or Absolute Uninstaller get me back to
Win 8 so that I can try Start 8??


What are you talking about? You're already at Win 8.
  #26  
Old October 2nd 13, 06:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Posts: 3,817
Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/13 10:31 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Springer
writes
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft. You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?


Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft. The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.

When someone here refers to "for free", one would assume it refers to it
being "freeware", and not something being pirated.


Agreed, and Start8 fits neither of those categories.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
  #27  
Old October 2nd 13, 06:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Posts: 3,817
Default Classic Shell vs Start 8

On 10/2/13 11:07 AM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Oct 2013, wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I have "Classic Shell" installed --- will something like
Revo Uninstaller or Absolute Uninstaller get me back to
Win 8 so that I can try Start 8??


What are you talking about? You're already at Win 8.


I think he wants to make sure all traces of Classic Shell is removed, so
there's nothing to affect the install of Start8.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.0.4
  #28  
Old October 2nd 13, 06:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Alias[_71_]
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Posts: 49
Default Classic Shell

On 10/2/2013 6:23 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron
wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't
mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like
Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft.
You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?


Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft. The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.



Give me a ****ing break and get off your high moral horse. No one
steals, right? Not Wall Street, not the politicians, the oil companies,
the banks?

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.
  #29  
Old October 2nd 13, 06:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Posts: n/a
Default Classic Shell vs Start 8


"Nil" wrote in message
...
On 02 Oct 2013, wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I have "Classic Shell" installed --- will something like
Revo Uninstaller or Absolute Uninstaller get me back to
Win 8 so that I can try Start 8??


What are you talking about? You're already at Win 8.


well, excuse my lack of precision.
I have Classic Shell installed over Win 8.
My question is: can I uninstall (using Revo or whatever)
Classic Shell and get back to what I had before I installed
Classic Shell, with out messing up Win 8.


  #30  
Old October 2nd 13, 06:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Posts: 868
Default Classic Shell

On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:14:36 +0200, "Alias"
wrote in article l2hka2$19r$1
@dont-email.me...

On 10/2/2013 6:23 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 10:06 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:49 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/2/13 8:51 AM, Alias wrote:
On 10/2/2013 4:12 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:00:38 -0600, "Ken Springer"
wrote in article l2h8u3$52r$1
@speranza.aioe.org...

On 10/2/13 5:00 AM, Ron wrote:
On 10/2/2013 3:42 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Ken Blake
writes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:35:15 -0400, Ron
wrote:

On 8/26/2013 5:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 03:35:01 -0500, CRNG

wrote:

snip

As far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough to free. I don't
mind
paying for it.

If you've found it for free, care to share?

snip pirate link

So, you believe in stealing?????

And for a measly $5 even.


Petty theft, a misdemeanor in the USA. Course, some countries like
Spain
have laws that if it's for personal use and not for profit, downloading
from The Pirate Bay is completely legal and not considered theft.
You do
know that this group can be accessed by folks not in the USA or do you?

I do, but taking something that doesn't belong to you is still theft, no
matter how small.



It's only theft if the law says it's theft. Ask MS and Apple what they
took from Xerox. Did they activate before using what they took?


Negative, sir. If you have morals, and live by them, it's theft. The
law just provides consequences acceptable to the majority of society.



Give me a ****ing break and get off your high moral horse. No one
steals, right? Not Wall Street, not the politicians, the oil companies,
the banks?


And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a big part of what is wrong with our
society today - "it's OK for me to steal since those folks did bad
things too! See, I'm entitled!"

Doesn't matter if the law provides you an exemption. Doesn't matter if
someone else is doing wrong. Doesn't matter if you can justify it to
yourself. It is still wrong.

--
Zaphod

If I had two heads like you, Zaphod,
I could have hours of fun banging them against a wall.
-Ford Prefect
 




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