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  #31  
Old December 9th 17, 10:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:10:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:


On 12/7/17 3:16 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On another quest to find a replacement for the default Windows Explorer.

What I'm looking for would actually replace Windows Explorer, much like
Classic Shell replaces the Start Menu. Meaning, when I right click on
the Start Button, and select Explore, the replacement is used, not the
Explorer from MS.

Does anyone know of one?



I'm getting bleary-eyed from trying different file manager programs.

So far, none have met the desire to have it run instead of the MS
version when you go Startright clickExplore. That's a main wish at my
end, followed by the hierarchical structure lines. That includes
Directory Opus, which looks like a magnificent program.



Directory Opus *does* do that. But if I remember correctly, I had to
change a setting somewhere to make it do that.
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  #32  
Old December 9th 17, 10:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 07/12/2017 22:16, Ken Springer wrote:
On another quest to find a replacement for the default Windows Explorer.

What I'm looking for would actually replace Windows Explorer, much
like Classic Shell replaces the Start Menu. Meaning, when I right
click on the Start Button, and select Explore, the replacement is
used, not the Explorer from MS.

Does anyone know of one?


Linux has something like that. Linux is used by 500 supercomputers so
you can be 501st person to use it to get replacement for Windows Explorer.

I prefer to use Windows File Explorer because it's quite versatile. Why
are you using Windows explorer? You want to explore your files and get
things done quickly. No need to explore your windows or doors. It's a
complete waste of time especially for a person like you at an advanced
[st]age in life.




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  #33  
Old December 9th 17, 10:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 12/9/17 2:26 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 07/12/2017 22:16, Ken Springer wrote:
On another quest to find a replacement for the default Windows Explorer.

What I'm looking for would actually replace Windows Explorer, much
like Classic Shell replaces the Start Menu. Meaning, when I right
click on the Start Button, and select Explore, the replacement is
used, not the Explorer from MS.

Does anyone know of one?


Linux has something like that. Linux is used by 500 supercomputers so
you can be 501st person to use it to get replacement for Windows Explorer.

I prefer to use Windows File Explorer because it's quite versatile. Why
are you using Windows explorer? You want to explore your files and get
things done quickly. No need to explore your windows or doors. It's a
complete waste of time especially for a person like you at an advanced
[st]age in life.


You write a straight up reply without all your bull****, and I'll tell
you why. Plain and simple.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #34  
Old December 9th 17, 10:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 12/9/17 2:24 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| I'll have to check YouTube to see if there's any videos on using Process
| Explorer in the way you are speaking about.
|
| I've never used process explorer.
|

Woops. Sorry.


No problem.

I meant Process Monitor. It started
out as Regmon and Filemon. (I still use those.) The
former recorded Registry actions in real time. The
latter did the same for the file system. ProcMon
puts it all together. ProcMon is slow and clunky compared
to the earlier versions. It requires a period of time just
to stop monitoring. But you can set filters to reduce
the data, which can get voluminous.


None of which I have ever used. This is a level of technicality that
only interests me if it lets me meet a goal or need.

As an example,
just opening IE typically causes about 5,000 Registry
actions. It checks and writes the same values,
over and over and over. I don't know why. The only
explanation I can think of is that Microsoft is practicing
aobscurity through volume, trying to hide the numerous
poorly documented settings that IE checks. But most
software is far more well designed than that. Most program
just do a few, or maybe a few dozen, Registry actions
when they start. And since Procmon identifies the process
doing the actions, you can do something like monitor
only Classic Shell without too much trouble.


I think what I will try is, install Classic Shell, turn the lines on,
and then see what happens when I:
a) Uninstall Classic Shell, or
b) Turn off Classic Shell for that account.

I'm going to wait and see if Char tells me how he did it first. Mike S
has also given me a couple options to look into.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...nloads/procmon




--
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Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #35  
Old December 10th 17, 01:56 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bob Borbiro
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On 9/12/2017 7:20 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/8/17 12:24 PM, s|b wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 13:59:25 +1000, Bob Borbiro wrote:

FreeCommander XE


How to set up FC XE to open when one rightclicks Start button Open
Windows Explorer?


This is exactly the kind of situation I'm looking for, whether it's Free Commander or
another replacement.

So far, I've not found one.


I've just pinned it to the task bar, as with a few other programs.
  #36  
Old December 10th 17, 02:38 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 12/9/17 5:56 PM, Bob Borbiro wrote:
On 9/12/2017 7:20 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/8/17 12:24 PM, s|b wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 13:59:25 +1000, Bob Borbiro wrote:

FreeCommander XE

How to set up FC XE to open when one rightclicks Start button Open
Windows Explorer?


This is exactly the kind of situation I'm looking for, whether it's Free Commander or
another replacement.

So far, I've not found one.


I've just pinned it to the task bar, as with a few other programs.


But, eventually, your taskbar fills up, and you either delete or change
the height.

I like to have the labels with the icons, and that doesn't help.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #37  
Old December 10th 17, 03:05 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:04:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/8/17 11:18 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:10:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/7/17 3:16 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On another quest to find a replacement for the default Windows Explorer.

What I'm looking for would actually replace Windows Explorer, much like
Classic Shell replaces the Start Menu. Meaning, when I right click on
the Start Button, and select Explore, the replacement is used, not the
Explorer from MS.

Does anyone know of one?


I'm getting bleary-eyed from trying different file manager programs.

So far, none have met the desire to have it run instead of the MS
version when you go Startright clickExplore. That's a main wish at my
end, followed by the hierarchical structure lines.


I didn't see anyone mention it yet, but I assume you know that Windows
Explorer can display those lines that you're talking about. I like'em
too, so I have the lines enabled here.


NO!!! I did *NOT* know this!! I've been trying to find out how to do
it for years. Even asked in this newsgroup long, long ago. (But, not
in a galaxy far, far, away! LOL)

How did you enable the lines? Something along the lines of what
Mayayana suggested?


I'm using Classic Shell 4.3.0, in case the version matters.

1. In its settings, select the tab labeled Navigation Pane.

2. In the first section, Navigation Pane Style, hover your mouse over
the first item, Windows XP Classic.

3. The balloon tip should read "The navigation pane has lines connecting
the folders". (While you're there, hover over the other two options to
see what they offer.)

4. If that sounds interesting, select that option. Click OK.

5. Open a new instance of Windows Explorer and the various folders
should have vertical lines connecting them.


I totally apologize if this is not what you were looking for.

--

Char Jackson
  #38  
Old December 10th 17, 03:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Ken Springer
writes:
On 12/9/17 2:24 PM, Mayayana wrote:

[]
I meant Process Monitor. It started

[]
None of which I have ever used. This is a level of technicality that
only interests me if it lets me meet a goal or need.


I'm afraid, me too (-:
[]
I think what I will try is, install Classic Shell, turn the lines on,
and then see what happens when I:
a) Uninstall Classic Shell, or
b) Turn off Classic Shell for that account.

I'm going to wait and see if Char tells me how he did it first. Mike S


I'm afraid I am too (or anyone else).
[]
I hadn't realised Classic Shell does what it does (or some of it) by
using settings in existing software, rather than adding software of its
own.
--
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Security is the perfect excuse to lock you out of your own computer.
- Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2015-12-4
  #39  
Old December 10th 17, 04:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike S[_4_]
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Default Windows Explorer Replacements OT: QtTAbBar (tabs for explorer)

On 12/9/2017 6:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:04:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/8/17 11:18 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:10:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/7/17 3:16 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On another quest to find a replacement for the default Windows Explorer.

What I'm looking for would actually replace Windows Explorer, much like
Classic Shell replaces the Start Menu. Meaning, when I right click on
the Start Button, and select Explore, the replacement is used, not the
Explorer from MS.

Does anyone know of one?


I'm getting bleary-eyed from trying different file manager programs.

So far, none have met the desire to have it run instead of the MS
version when you go Startright clickExplore. That's a main wish at my
end, followed by the hierarchical structure lines.

I didn't see anyone mention it yet, but I assume you know that Windows
Explorer can display those lines that you're talking about. I like'em
too, so I have the lines enabled here.


NO!!! I did *NOT* know this!! I've been trying to find out how to do
it for years. Even asked in this newsgroup long, long ago. (But, not
in a galaxy far, far, away! LOL)

How did you enable the lines? Something along the lines of what
Mayayana suggested?


I'm using Classic Shell 4.3.0, in case the version matters.

1. In its settings, select the tab labeled Navigation Pane.

2. In the first section, Navigation Pane Style, hover your mouse over
the first item, Windows XP Classic.

3. The balloon tip should read "The navigation pane has lines connecting
the folders". (While you're there, hover over the other two options to
see what they offer.)

4. If that sounds interesting, select that option. Click OK.

5. Open a new instance of Windows Explorer and the various folders
should have vertical lines connecting them.

I totally apologize if this is not what you were looking for.


Classic Shell rocks, I've had older friends buy windows 10 machines and
they were completely lost looking at the tabs and wondering how to get
to their programs, control panel, etc. Classic Shell made them feel like
they had regained control of their computer again.

OT I just installed QtTAbBar and it rocks. It puts tabs on the Windows
File Explorer, right click on a folder and a new tab opens up exploring
that folder, right click on a tab and it closes. And tons of options.
Really cool freeware.
http://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/qttabbar.html

  #40  
Old December 10th 17, 04:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 12/9/17 7:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:04:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/8/17 11:18 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:10:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/7/17 3:16 PM, Ken Springer wrote:


snip

How did you enable the lines? Something along the lines of what
Mayayana suggested?


I'm using Classic Shell 4.3.0, in case the version matters.

1. In its settings, select the tab labeled Navigation Pane.

2. In the first section, Navigation Pane Style, hover your mouse over
the first item, Windows XP Classic.

3. The balloon tip should read "The navigation pane has lines connecting
the folders". (While you're there, hover over the other two options to
see what they offer.)

4. If that sounds interesting, select that option. Click OK.

5. Open a new instance of Windows Explorer and the various folders
should have vertical lines connecting them.


I totally apologize if this is not what you were looking for.


And here, I was expecting some long set of instructions for editing the
registry!!! ROFL

So no apology needed. :-)

Classic Shell, here I come.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #41  
Old December 10th 17, 04:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Windows Explorer Replacements OT: QtTAbBar (tabs for explorer)

On 12/9/17 8:01 PM, Mike S wrote:
On 12/9/2017 6:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:04:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/8/17 11:18 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:10:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/7/17 3:16 PM, Ken Springer wrote:


snip

Classic Shell rocks, I've had older friends buy windows 10 machines and
they were completely lost looking at the tabs and wondering how to get
to their programs, control panel, etc. Classic Shell made them feel like
they had regained control of their computer again.


My W10 system has Classic Shell in my admin account, but in the 2nd
account, it's turned off. I use that account for screenshots of an
unadulterated system.

OT I just installed QtTAbBar and it rocks. It puts tabs on the Windows
File Explorer, right click on a folder and a new tab opens up exploring
that folder, right click on a tab and it closes. And tons of options.
Really cool freeware.
http://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/qttabbar.html


Does the install of that tab bar affect all accounts, or can you install
for a specific account?

I haven't been able to check out the two links you posted for the newer
systems, but I do have them open in tabs in Firefox.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #42  
Old December 10th 17, 05:42 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 12/9/17 7:05 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:04:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/8/17 11:18 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:10:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 12/7/17 3:16 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On another quest to find a replacement for the default Windows Explorer.

What I'm looking for would actually replace Windows Explorer, much like
Classic Shell replaces the Start Menu. Meaning, when I right click on
the Start Button, and select Explore, the replacement is used, not the
Explorer from MS.

Does anyone know of one?


I'm getting bleary-eyed from trying different file manager programs.

So far, none have met the desire to have it run instead of the MS
version when you go Startright clickExplore. That's a main wish at my
end, followed by the hierarchical structure lines.

I didn't see anyone mention it yet, but I assume you know that Windows
Explorer can display those lines that you're talking about. I like'em
too, so I have the lines enabled here.


NO!!! I did *NOT* know this!! I've been trying to find out how to do
it for years. Even asked in this newsgroup long, long ago. (But, not
in a galaxy far, far, away! LOL)

How did you enable the lines? Something along the lines of what
Mayayana suggested?


I'm using Classic Shell 4.3.0, in case the version matters.

1. In its settings, select the tab labeled Navigation Pane.

2. In the first section, Navigation Pane Style, hover your mouse over
the first item, Windows XP Classic.

3. The balloon tip should read "The navigation pane has lines connecting
the folders". (While you're there, hover over the other two options to
see what they offer.)

4. If that sounds interesting, select that option. Click OK.

5. Open a new instance of Windows Explorer and the various folders
should have vertical lines connecting them.


The current version of Classic Shell is 4.3.1, and that's what I installed.

It took actually reading the help file and some Googling to figure out
where you were trying to send me, but I got it!

I have been wanting that for years!!!

Thanks a bunch.

I'm still going to investigate adding additional options, namely another
file manager, to the Start context menu.


I totally apologize if this is not what you were looking for.



--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #43  
Old December 10th 17, 05:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 12/9/17 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Springer
writes:
On 12/9/17 2:24 PM, Mayayana wrote:

[]
I meant Process Monitor. It started

[]
None of which I have ever used. This is a level of technicality that
only interests me if it lets me meet a goal or need.


I'm afraid, me too (-:
[]
I think what I will try is, install Classic Shell, turn the lines on,
and then see what happens when I:
a) Uninstall Classic Shell, or
b) Turn off Classic Shell for that account.

I'm going to wait and see if Char tells me how he did it first. Mike S


I'm afraid I am too (or anyone else).
[]
I hadn't realised Classic Shell does what it does (or some of it) by
using settings in existing software, rather than adding software of its
own.


The lines are apparently all Classic Shell, as when I removed Classic
Shell, the lines also disappeared.

So, Classic Shell remains, and I'm a happy camper.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #44  
Old December 10th 17, 06:07 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Ken Springer
writes:
On 12/9/17 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Springer
writes:
On 12/9/17 2:24 PM, Mayayana wrote:

[]
I meant Process Monitor. It started

[]
None of which I have ever used. This is a level of technicality that
only interests me if it lets me meet a goal or need.

I'm afraid, me too (-:
[]
I think what I will try is, install Classic Shell, turn the lines on,
and then see what happens when I:
a) Uninstall Classic Shell, or
b) Turn off Classic Shell for that account.

I'm going to wait and see if Char tells me how he did it first. Mike S

I'm afraid I am too (or anyone else).
[]
I hadn't realised Classic Shell does what it does (or some of it) by
using settings in existing software, rather than adding software of its
own.


The lines are apparently all Classic Shell, as when I removed Classic
Shell, the lines also disappeared.

So, Classic Shell remains, and I'm a happy camper.


Someone in this thread said the basic Explorer could do the lines, but
we need to find what registry settings CS changes - presumably removing
CS returned those settings to their original condition, unless the
person who said the basic explorer can draw them was mistaken.

I've never understood why MS removed the lines (substituting those tiny
triangles) in the first place.
--
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  #45  
Old December 10th 17, 09:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 05:07:13 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
On 12/9/17 7:47 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Springer
writes:
On 12/9/17 2:24 PM, Mayayana wrote:
[]
I meant Process Monitor. It started
[]
None of which I have ever used. This is a level of technicality that
only interests me if it lets me meet a goal or need.
I'm afraid, me too (-:
[]
I think what I will try is, install Classic Shell, turn the lines on,
and then see what happens when I:
a) Uninstall Classic Shell, or
b) Turn off Classic Shell for that account.

I'm going to wait and see if Char tells me how he did it first. Mike S
I'm afraid I am too (or anyone else).
[]
I hadn't realised Classic Shell does what it does (or some of it) by
using settings in existing software, rather than adding software of its
own.


The lines are apparently all Classic Shell, as when I removed Classic
Shell, the lines also disappeared.

So, Classic Shell remains, and I'm a happy camper.


Someone in this thread said the basic Explorer could do the lines, but
we need to find what registry settings CS changes - presumably removing
CS returned those settings to their original condition, unless the
person who said the basic explorer can draw them was mistaken.


I believe that was me, and I could well have been mistaken when I
suggested that Classic Shell was merely diddling a Registry setting.

The other half of what I meant was that, regardless of how you get
there, the stock Windows Explorer could show the vertical lines. In that
respect, I was pointing out that you don't need a whole new file manager
to get that feature.

I've never understood why MS removed the lines (substituting those tiny
triangles) in the first place.


One of life's mysteries, I guess. Maybe the triangles look new, modern,
fresh, exciting, and more than anything else, *different* from what came
before, helping MS differentiate the new from the old.

--

Char Jackson
 




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