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Old November 11th 05, 01:17 PM
Tony Stanford
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Hi -

I'm running XP SP2 on a laptop and have the following problem:

Running as administrator, I cannot save new power settings/schemes. I
got to control panel/power settings. Choose screensaver/power, choose
new figures. Then, when I choose SAVE AS, it appears to let me save a
new name for the settings, but when I go back, the name is gone and only
a few options are available.

Interestingly, it lets me *delete* names of power schemes, but not add
new ones.

Even more peculiar, when I log in a user with limited privileges, there
are a whole load of power schemes available that are *not* available
when I log in as administrator!

Any ideas, please?

Tony
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Old November 11th 05, 02:38 PM
chromesn
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i would think that since "administrator" account is the most powerful, yet
usually hidden account, xp doesn't really want you to fk up the basic
settings that MAKE the admin account the most powerful:

but as a user (even with admin priviledges) xp doesn't really care how bad
you fk it(the user account) up, since you can go back to your "admin"
accoutn, to try and fix it.

hey, i made that up, but it sure sounds good, don't it? lol

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Hi -

I'm running XP SP2 on a laptop and have the following problem:

Running as administrator, I cannot save new power settings/schemes. I got
to control panel/power settings. Choose screensaver/power, choose new
figures. Then, when I choose SAVE AS, it appears to let me save a new name
for the settings, but when I go back, the name is gone and only a few
options are available.

Interestingly, it lets me *delete* names of power schemes, but not add new
ones.

Even more peculiar, when I log in a user with limited privileges, there
are a whole load of power schemes available that are *not* available when
I log in as administrator!

Any ideas, please?

Tony



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Old November 11th 05, 03:30 PM
Sharon F
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:17:00 +0000, Tony Stanford wrote:

Hi -

I'm running XP SP2 on a laptop and have the following problem:

Running as administrator, I cannot save new power settings/schemes. I
got to control panel/power settings. Choose screensaver/power, choose
new figures. Then, when I choose SAVE AS, it appears to let me save a
new name for the settings, but when I go back, the name is gone and only
a few options are available.

Interestingly, it lets me *delete* names of power schemes, but not add
new ones.

Even more peculiar, when I log in a user with limited privileges, there
are a whole load of power schemes available that are *not* available
when I log in as administrator!

Any ideas, please?

Tony


Take a look at this registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\
Usually the 0-5 folders are the originals. Deleting others, should restore
the Power Options list to normal.

If I remember correctly from when I had this problem a few years ago, "8"
was the magic number. More than 9 (0-8) policies made Power Options behave
as you describe. I reverted to the original 5 and then limited myself to
recreating 2 customized configs staying under the "limit" to avoid the
problem from reoccurring.

Since other user profiles do not have this problem, I suspect this is the
only portion of the registry you need to address. However, if your list is
still truncated or you are not comfortable editing the registry manually,
MVP Kelly Theriot has a .REG file that restores the default power
configurations. It addresses all relevant keys system wide - not just the
ones for your user.

You can find that fix he
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 204 - right hand side. Directions for using the .REG file are at the
top of the same page. NOTE: You can use the REG file to enter values
automatically, or open it in notepad and use it as a guide to do the
registry editing manually.

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Old November 11th 05, 03:40 PM
Tony Stanford
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Default Problems with power settings



Thanks for the reply. I'll have a go, but my problem is that there is
only *one* power scheme available to me when logged in as administrator
mode - home/desk top. And it *won't* let me create any more!

On the other hand, when logged in as a user, there are quite a few. Of
course, it won't let me change power settings as a user.

Tony

In message , Sharon F
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:17:00 +0000, Tony Stanford wrote:

Hi -

I'm running XP SP2 on a laptop and have the following problem:

Running as administrator, I cannot save new power settings/schemes. I
got to control panel/power settings. Choose screensaver/power, choose
new figures. Then, when I choose SAVE AS, it appears to let me save a
new name for the settings, but when I go back, the name is gone and only
a few options are available.

Interestingly, it lets me *delete* names of power schemes, but not add
new ones.

Even more peculiar, when I log in a user with limited privileges, there
are a whole load of power schemes available that are *not* available
when I log in as administrator!

Any ideas, please?

Tony


Take a look at this registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\
Usually the 0-5 folders are the originals. Deleting others, should restore
the Power Options list to normal.

If I remember correctly from when I had this problem a few years ago, "8"
was the magic number. More than 9 (0-8) policies made Power Options behave
as you describe. I reverted to the original 5 and then limited myself to
recreating 2 customized configs staying under the "limit" to avoid the
problem from reoccurring.

Since other user profiles do not have this problem, I suspect this is the
only portion of the registry you need to address. However, if your list is
still truncated or you are not comfortable editing the registry manually,
MVP Kelly Theriot has a .REG file that restores the default power
configurations. It addresses all relevant keys system wide - not just the
ones for your user.

You can find that fix he
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 204 - right hand side. Directions for using the .REG file are at the
top of the same page. NOTE: You can use the REG file to enter values
automatically, or open it in notepad and use it as a guide to do the
registry editing manually.


--
Tony Stanford
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Old November 11th 05, 03:46 PM
Tony Stanford
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Default Problems with power settings


Hi -

I've had a look at the key, as you kindly suggested.

Under global power policies there are *no* folders, and a long binary
figure for policies. Is that why I get only one policy as administrator?

There are upwards of 40 folders under power policies!

Should I just delete the folders?

Thanks for your constructive help!

Tony

In message , Sharon F
writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:17:00 +0000, Tony Stanford wrote:

Hi -

I'm running XP SP2 on a laptop and have the following problem:

Running as administrator, I cannot save new power settings/schemes. I
got to control panel/power settings. Choose screensaver/power, choose
new figures. Then, when I choose SAVE AS, it appears to let me save a
new name for the settings, but when I go back, the name is gone and only
a few options are available.

Interestingly, it lets me *delete* names of power schemes, but not add
new ones.

Even more peculiar, when I log in a user with limited privileges, there
are a whole load of power schemes available that are *not* available
when I log in as administrator!

Any ideas, please?

Tony


Take a look at this registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\
Usually the 0-5 folders are the originals. Deleting others, should restore
the Power Options list to normal.

If I remember correctly from when I had this problem a few years ago, "8"
was the magic number. More than 9 (0-8) policies made Power Options behave
as you describe. I reverted to the original 5 and then limited myself to
recreating 2 customized configs staying under the "limit" to avoid the
problem from reoccurring.

Since other user profiles do not have this problem, I suspect this is the
only portion of the registry you need to address. However, if your list is
still truncated or you are not comfortable editing the registry manually,
MVP Kelly Theriot has a .REG file that restores the default power
configurations. It addresses all relevant keys system wide - not just the
ones for your user.

You can find that fix he
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 204 - right hand side. Directions for using the .REG file are at the
top of the same page. NOTE: You can use the REG file to enter values
automatically, or open it in notepad and use it as a guide to do the
registry editing manually.


--
Tony Stanford
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Old November 11th 05, 03:57 PM
Tony Stanford
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Ok, Sharon - you're a genius! I deleted all the folders except those
numbered 1 to 5, and lo and behold, I get the choice back as
administrator, and I can save new ones!

How did you find that out?

Now, logged in as user, I can't change power schemes, and before, the
power scheme set as administrator did not carry over to the user. I'll
need to check now. Otherwise, how do you set the power scheme for a
user?

Thanks a bunch!

Tony


In message , Sharon F
writes

Take a look at this registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\ Usually the 0-5
folders are the originals. Deleting others, should restore the Power
Options list to normal.

If I remember correctly from when I had this problem a few years ago,
"8" was the magic number. More than 9 (0-8) policies made Power Options
behave as you describe. I reverted to the original 5 and then limited
myself to recreating 2 customized configs staying under the "limit" to
avoid the problem from reoccurring.

Since other user profiles do not have this problem, I suspect this is
the only portion of the registry you need to address. However, if your
list is still truncated or you are not comfortable editing the registry
manually, MVP Kelly Theriot has a .REG file that restores the default
power configurations. It addresses all relevant keys system wide - not
just the ones for your user.

You can find that fix he
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 204 - right hand side. Directions for using the .REG file are at
the top of the same page. NOTE: You can use the REG file to enter
values automatically, or open it in notepad and use it as a guide to do
the registry editing manually.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User


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Tony Stanford
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Old November 11th 05, 04:02 PM
Tony Stanford
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OK. I've now checked. It is peculiar. The schemes that I just created as
a test under administrator are not available when I switch to an
ordinary user. And I can't change schemes as a user.

So, I can now create schemes as an administrator, but how do I get the
user to be able to use them? They don't carry over.
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Old November 12th 05, 12:01 AM
Sharon F
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:57:33 +0000, Tony Stanford wrote:

Ok, Sharon - you're a genius! I deleted all the folders except those
numbered 1 to 5, and lo and behold, I get the choice back as
administrator, and I can save new ones!

How did you find that out?

Now, logged in as user, I can't change power schemes, and before, the
power scheme set as administrator did not carry over to the user. I'll
need to check now. Otherwise, how do you set the power scheme for a
user?

Thanks a bunch!


I'm glad to hear that you got your account sorted. I found out by getting
stuck (and eventually unstuck) in the same spot when experimenting with
customized power settings. BTDT.

Power schemes are a system wide setting. As such, it requires logging on
with an administrator account to set what will be used for the system.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307066

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Old November 12th 05, 10:12 AM
Tony Stanford
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In message , Sharon F
writes

Power schemes are a system wide setting. As such, it requires logging
on with an administrator account to set what will be used for the
system. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307066


Thanks for the info. I had found this article. But, oddly, my Dell does
not behave this way. I have created new schemes as administrator, but
they are not even visible on the drop-down list as a limited user. (I
know you can't change a scheme as a limited user.) The scheme current as
a limited user is not the scheme current when I switch to administrator.

And even odder - there are schemes visible in the limited user drop-down
list which aren't available to the administrator! I've scoured the
Microsoft site but can't find anything.

Peculiar, eh?

Thanks again for your help.
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Tony Stanford
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Old November 12th 05, 03:37 PM
Sharon F
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:12:57 +0000, Tony Stanford wrote:

Thanks for the info. I had found this article. But, oddly, my Dell does
not behave this way. I have created new schemes as administrator, but
they are not even visible on the drop-down list as a limited user. (I
know you can't change a scheme as a limited user.) The scheme current as
a limited user is not the scheme current when I switch to administrator.

And even odder - there are schemes visible in the limited user drop-down
list which aren't available to the administrator! I've scoured the
Microsoft site but can't find anything.

Peculiar, eh?

Thanks again for your help.


Peculiar about the different lists but since the limited user can't change
power options, I wouldn't worry about it.

If you are also saying that your administrator power option settings are
not being used when other accounts are logged on, that should not be
happening. The only time I see that is when no one is logged on. Then a
default power scheme is used. Or another admin user has invoked a plan
different than the one that I've chosen.

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Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
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Old November 12th 05, 06:13 PM
Tony Stanford
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In message , Sharon F
writes

If you are also saying that your administrator power option settings
are not being used when other accounts are logged on, that should not
be happening. The only time I see that is when no one is logged on.
Then a default power scheme is used. Or another admin user has invoked
a plan different than the one that I've chosen.


I know. Hard to believe. Not only that, but I cannot change the limited
user settings via the admin account. Odd. Never mind. At least you
solved my major problem.

Incidentally, I know why the above is happening. In the registry, there
are different entries under power settings for the admin user and local
user. To get them the same, I would need to copy over the registry
entries.
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Tony Stanford
 




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