Windows 8, Win XP and China

from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology...PublicRSS20-sa

Yes wrote:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology...PublicRSS20-sa

Cost is also an issue. The Chinese don't have roomfuls of i7 processor
computers, just waiting for a Windows 8 upgrade. They face the same
situation a lot of WinXP users face - replace the entire computer, to
be able to use the new OS. And that's as good a reason as any to
just ban it.

In terms of security, it wouldn't really matter what they use,
it still has to be inspected for security issues.

Paul

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Paul typed:
Yes wrote:
from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology...PublicRSS20-sa

Cost is also an issue. The Chinese don't have roomfuls of i7 processor
computers, just waiting for a Windows 8 upgrade. They face the same
situation a lot of WinXP users face - replace the entire computer, to
be able to use the new OS. And that's as good a reason as any to
just ban it.

In terms of security, it wouldn't really matter what they use,
it still has to be inspected for security issues.

But China has all of the computer manufacturing equipment. Sure it might
cost one million dollars to setup to manufacture one computer. Sure that
sounds expensive. But if you want to manufacture two of them, the price
drops by $500,000 a piece. And the more you manufacture, the cheaper
each one becomes. And since China is the world's supplier of computers,
they of all people have no shortage of computers.

Security? What is nice about old an OS like XP, I bet China's cyber
intelligence has it all reversed engineered by now. So they know what it
can all do. This isn't true of newer OS like Windows 8. Heck, earlier
versions of Windows were respectful of your wishes and would ask for
your permission to phone home to activate itself. Nowadays, Windows does
this behind your back without asking. There is good reason to fear
Windows 8 based on security concerns. As Microsoft no longer cares what
you want or are concerned about, they just do what they want.

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Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

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Paul typed:
Yes wrote:
from the BBC

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Cost is also an issue. The Chinese don't have roomfuls of i7 processor
computers, just waiting for a Windows 8 upgrade. They face the same
situation a lot of WinXP users face - replace the entire computer, to
be able to use the new OS. And that's as good a reason as any to
just ban it.

In terms of security, it wouldn't really matter what they use,
it still has to be inspected for security issues.

But China has all of the computer manufacturing equipment. Sure it might
cost one million dollars to setup to manufacture one computer. Sure that
sounds expensive. But if you want to manufacture two of them, the price
drops by $500,000 a piece. And the more you manufacture, the cheaper
each one becomes. And since China is the world's supplier of computers,
they of all people have no shortage of computers.

Security? What is nice about old an OS like XP, I bet China's cyber
intelligence has it all reversed engineered by now. So they know what it
can all do. This isn't true of newer OS like Windows 8. Heck, earlier
versions of Windows were respectful of your wishes and would ask for
your permission to phone home to activate itself. Nowadays, Windows does
this behind your back without asking. There is good reason to fear
Windows 8 based on security concerns. As Microsoft no longer cares what
you want or are concerned about, they just do what they want.

Ditto on the security... and watz up wit all the 3rd party software
firewalls defaulting Microsoft's services as "trusted" and just allowing
them to connect anywhere/anytime/anyway without notifying the user?!?

I hate it when you're cruising along on a project and a dialog just jumps
in there and steals focus.

Half the peeples are getting so used to it that they'd never even notice
that they've been hacked.

Google's Android for phones is the same way... It's really annoying.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and FYI :
If I had just $1 for everytime I got distracted...
Boobies! motorboat motorboat...

Per Bucky "Ipse Dixit" Breeder:
I hate it when you're cruising along on a project and a dialog just jumps
in there and steals focus.

+1

Makes me crazy sometimes.
--
Pete Cresswell

Yes wrote, On 5/20/2014 10:30 PM:
from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology...PublicRSS20-sa


In the long run the government constraint is insignificant. The billion
Chinese consumers using Windows Live Messenger (still available in that
market until 2015)will necessitate upgrading to Skype or switch services
(not likely to happen) eventually using Win7 if available or Win8 and later.



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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Todd wrote, On 5/22/2014 1:50 PM:
On 05/21/2014 05:29 PM, ...winston wrote:
Yes wrote, On 5/20/2014 10:30 PM:
from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology...PublicRSS20-sa




In the long run the government constraint is insignificant. The billion
Chinese consumers using Windows Live Messenger (still available in that
market until 2015)will necessitate upgrading to Skype or switch services
(not likely to happen) eventually using Win7 if available or Win8 and
later.

Hi Winston,

The problem that someone referenced in another thread
is the cost of upgrading all their old P4 to handle W7+

-T


That reference was:
qp
Windows 8 needs better than a P4 to work. (There are
supposed to be a few late-model P4s that work, but
I've never run into someone using one of those.)
The WinXP era used more modest P4s, ones not
suited for running Win8.
/qp

Win7 is still available in China. Pretty much for the same reason that
Windows Live Messenger got an extension - upgrade XP to Win7 (not Win7+
i.e. Win8 or later) which runs on the majority of P4 built from 2003
forward. Even then as I noted, Win7 has a lifecycle and eventually the
Chinese consumer (the consumer market that will drive the direction for
the rest of the consumer world since its just to big to ignore) will
migrate from Win7 to Win8 or later.



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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps