NEED XP ACTIVATION !

On 06/07/2017 01:03, SteveGG wrote:
You should be able to buy a copy of WinXP off Ebay,
in time to enter the key and activate your WinXP VM.

Well I just did BUT even when I get it, and enter the provided ID
code, it will still demand activation, and offer a choice of on-line
or phone. On-line doesn't work and phone is useless.


So the choice for you is to blow yourself up because these days you need
to know how computers work. If you can't then either go and live in
caves with Taliban fighters or you could just blow yourself up on some
beach in your area where there is nobody around to be affected by your
actions.

People with low intelligence these days have no future on this planet
but I know it is futile to tell you all this because you won't
understand anything of this.




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"Java Jive" wrote

| (S)he could buy a second-hand RETAIL (note that) edition and try to
| use the PK from that, but would probably have to contact MS to
| reactivate it, and they may or may not be helpful - I would imagine
| that at least the original owner would have had to unregister his own
| PC in some way, or not have been in contact with an MS server for at
| least a number of months.
|
| (S)he could buy a dead 'for-parts' PC of similar manufacture and
| preferably similar specs and try to use the PK from that. If the
| hardware is similar enough, the PK may authenticate without human
| contact with MS being necessary.

Or find a used computer with an enterprise
license version. Those don't need to be
activated, no matter the hardware. I don't
know what the legal details are there, but as
long as only the licensed number of computers
are in use I don't see why it wouldn't be legal.

I remember when product activation first
started there were lots of complaints and
fears about this kind of thing. MS said not
to worry because once XP expired they'd
offer a universal key for free to the people
still using it.

SteveGG wrote:
You should be able to buy a copy of WinXP off Ebay,
in time to enter the key and activate your WinXP VM.

Well I just did BUT even when I get it, and enter the provided ID
code, it will still demand activation, and offer a choice of on-line
or phone. On-line doesn't work and phone is useless. I've tried both
with other previous installations and NG.

Online is only going to work, if the network is up.

Have you configured the network setting in VirtualBox
properly ? My guess is, that is the problem.

I use "bridged" setting in Virtualbox, then set the lower
pane to a network chip for which I can find a WinXP driver.
PCNET FAST III ?

After installing the network driver for your new bridged
virtual interface, test using the IE browser inside the VM.

Now, your network activation attempts can work.

Paul

On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 09:51:49 -0400, SteveGG wrote:
Running XP in a virtual machine, for older software that won't run in
current Windows versions. Can only get XP activation for 30 days. All
solutions refer to a registry key ending in
....CurrentVersion\WPAEvents. I don't have anything WPA and don't know
what it is. Desperately need a fix to avoid XP reinstallation every 30
days. Thanks. Post or Email

Hunt and download Windows XP Mode from Microsoft site. Extract the Windows
XP harddisk image from the package (tip: use 7-Zip). Use that harddisk image
in the VM instead. No activation required. And don't blindly install updates
into it.

Hunt, get and use NHC if you need to convert it to other harddisk image
format.

In article 12,
says...

Il giorno Wed 05 Jul 2017 04:38:45p, *Jack Fate* ha inviato su
alt.windows7.general il messaggio news cosa ha scritto:


How about Windows 7 Ultimate?



it's ok as well

All I know is that if you wait longer than about 3 months then Windows
using the same install key will activate without issue. Any previous
install will remain activated also.

How I know? I have two pcs here I did that with. When one of them went
down few years ago now I bought a used replacement, wiped it clean and
then installed Win7 using the same key over again. Little later I
managed to revive the original pc and seeing as it came alive with all
intact I saw no reason to even bother changing keys for either one.
All's been fine.

So to original poster, just go look at someone's old pc (grandma,
parents, don't matter really) and copy the key off the sticker and try
it. Insure it's for same version you're trying to install is a hiccup
and as well if key is "locked" to a specific manufacturer, e.g. Dell,
Gateway etc. I've personally never run across either of those problems.

pjp wrote:
In article 12,
says...
Il giorno Wed 05 Jul 2017 04:38:45p, *Jack Fate* ha inviato su
alt.windows7.general il messaggio news cosa ha scritto:

How about Windows 7 Ultimate?


it's ok as well

All I know is that if you wait longer than about 3 months then Windows
using the same install key will activate without issue. Any previous
install will remain activated also.

How I know? I have two pcs here I did that with. When one of them went
down few years ago now I bought a used replacement, wiped it clean and
then installed Win7 using the same key over again. Little later I
managed to revive the original pc and seeing as it came alive with all
intact I saw no reason to even bother changing keys for either one.
All's been fine.

So to original poster, just go look at someone's old pc (grandma,
parents, don't matter really) and copy the key off the sticker and try
it. Insure it's for same version you're trying to install is a hiccup
and as well if key is "locked" to a specific manufacturer, e.g. Dell,
Gateway etc. I've personally never run across either of those problems.

Do both of these PCs have Windows Update set to Auto,
and do the PCs check for updates every day ?

Paul

In message , Mayayana
writes:
[]
I remember when product activation first
started there were lots of complaints and
fears about this kind of thing. MS said not
to worry because once XP expired they'd
offer a universal key for free to the people
still using it.


I remember rumours that that had been said, but does anyone have the
actual statement?

I've certainly seen no sign of a universal key being released. (Or does
"offer" mean they intended to charge for it?) Is the
authentication/activation/whatever mechanism even _compatible_ with the
concept of a universal key? (I suspect not, because if it was, I'd have
thought someone would have leaked/cracked it by now.)
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Like a very bad penny, you keep turning up.

See my previous addressed to you.

That's probably it.

I was avoiding the network to avoid the necessity for additional AV
software.

I only have XP for a few oldy but goody software.

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| I remember rumours that that had been said, but does anyone have the
| actual statement?
|

I don't know. Frankly I'm not motivated to search
because I don't think it matters what they said at
this point. (Anyone who is motivated should
probably look back to mid-2001, in the tech articles
leading up to the XP release.)

They won't honor it because they want
everyone on Win10. Back when they said it, it was
just a way to shut up Product Activation doubters,
and they probably never imagined there might be
XP users, 16 years after its release, who wanted
keys. They were used to the idea that new Windows
versions would be preferred because they were
unequivocable improvements over the last version.
That time really went out with ME. 95/98/2000 were
fine. ME/XP started the bloat parade and the spyware
parade, respectively.

To release a free key now could start a cottage
industry to keep XP supported. And Win7 users might
be more tempted to hold out for their key. That could
mean big trouble for Win10.

Perhaps even more important: Product Activation has
meant a massive windfall in sales of computers and
licenses because it's done so much to change peoples'
views to what Microsoft wanted -- to see Windows
as part of the computer, that dies with the computer.
The claimed purpose of protection from software theft
has some merit, but Microsoft has accomplished far more
"theft" by making people pay repeatedly for the same
license. That was arguably the real reason for Product
Activation. (Around the time it started MS were threatening
white box makers, claiming they had no right to sell
computers without OSs because it caused theft. That
despite the existence of Linux and the substantial sales
of full version Windows disks. I do have a link for that:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/11...ipped_without/
)

Giving away a free key flies in the face of that. It would
mean that people could go back to building new machines
without paying an additional $100-$300 to put an OS
on them when they've already paid for the OS.

I brought up the sleaziness of the whole thing in a
Windows programming group back when XP was starting
to get old. The MS lapdog types responded that MS had
only promised that they would "probably" release a key.
That view seemed to have become the party line.

So I guess it depends on what your definition of is is.

All I know is that if you wait longer than about 3 months then Windows
using the same install key will activate without issue. Any previous
install will remain activated also.

Well, this is very encouraging, but a bit hard to believe. You seem to
be saying, that an XP installation will somehow manage to
self-activate after about 3 months. You realize that after the 30
days, you can't even run the XP system. It keeps trying to activate
etc. How about setting the computer date to 3+ months hence ?!

On 7/6/2017 8:59 AM, SteveGG wrote:

All I know is that if you wait longer than about 3 months then Windows
using the same install key will activate without issue. Any previous
install will remain activated also.

Well, this is very encouraging, but a bit hard to believe. You seem to
be saying, that an XP installation will somehow manage to
self-activate after about 3 months. You realize that after the 30
days, you can't even run the XP system. It keeps trying to activate
etc. How about setting the computer date to 3+ months hence ?!

I believe what happens is the Microsoft activation server keeps track of
when it activates an XP system for 3 months AND it keeps track any
further activation attempts for that license, again for 3 months.

If any attempt to activate another copy of the license before the 3
month timeline expires Microsoft rejects them. If a second activation
attempt of the license happens before the 3 months timeline expires then
it resets the 3 month "Do not activate" clock.

To put it another way, if someone really wanted to activate a second
copy of the same license they would have to NOT attempt to activate a
second copy UNTIL at least 3 months have passed since the first copy was
activated. Attempts to activate a second copy earlier than that just
resets the 3 month rejection timeline until you give up.

SteveGG
Wed, 05 Jul 2017
13:51:49 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

Running XP in a virtual machine, for older software that won't run
in current Windows versions. Can only get XP activation for 30
days. All solutions refer to a registry key ending in
...CurrentVersion\WPAEvents. I don't have anything WPA and don't
know what it is. Desperately need a fix to avoid XP reinstallation
every 30 days. Thanks. Post or Email

I offered you a solution via email awhile ago. You didn't continue
responding so I didn't go any further. Hope it works out for you.


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On 07/05/2017 06:51 AM, SteveGG wrote:
Running XP in a virtual machine, for older software that won't run in
current Windows versions. Can only get XP activation for 30 days. All
solutions refer to a registry key ending in
...CurrentVersion\WPAEvents. I don't have anything WPA and don't know
what it is. Desperately need a fix to avoid XP reinstallation every 30
days. Thanks. Post or Email


Hi Steve,

Back when I build XP machines for customers using the
Widows 7 Pro downgrade rights, I had several discussions with
M$ Licensing over the issue.

Here is the scoop. If you have a copy of Vista Pro or
better or Widows 7 Pro or better, you are entitled to run
XP under "downgrade rights".

Now when I asked for an activation code -- now I am not joking
here -- they told me to go find another machine with XP Pro
on it and reuse its key. If the key complains, use the manual
phone activation method (the prompt will gie your the phone
number). No fooling.

I told M$ they were being unprofessional, but it did not help.
They won't listen to me either about their weird license cards
for M$ Office (M$O). (I carry M$O 2016 on a flash drive to
cut down on the download and img hassles.)

Me personally at my office, my base machine is Linux and I
run several virtual machines to do research for customers.
Virtually all my old Windows apps will run in Wine (the Linux
application layer for Windows). A very few won't and those I run
in one of my Windows VM's.

Wine may be the saving grace for a lot of legacy Windows apps.

-T

On 06/07/2017 16:30, Diesel wrote:
I offered you a solution via email awhile ago. You didn't continue
responding so I didn't go any further.


What made you think that he understood everything you told him to do?
That Guy is a person of low intelligence and so he can't understand
anything unless you offer him advice with pictures like children or
people with learning difficulties.



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