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Tried refreshing Firefox because it was so slow. Did so. Now almost nothing
works. Can't switch to Gmail or Google. Refuses to do so. Says bad insecure site (or words to that efect). Back to Iron browser. I don't like it either - especially many web sites don't print completely. Can I return it to non- refreshed state? Evidently I need a good browser. Tried Windows browser - won't run. I follow instructions and get non-existant links. I need a good browser. Which one? Using XP Home, sp3. TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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KenK wrote:
Tried refreshing Firefox because it was so slow. Did so. Now almost nothing works. Can't switch to Gmail or Google. Refuses to do so. Says bad insecure site (or words to that efect). Back to Iron browser. I don't like it either - especially many web sites don't print completely. Can I return it to non- refreshed state? Evidently I need a good browser. Tried Windows browser - won't run. I follow instructions and get non-existant links. I need a good browser. Which one? Using XP Home, sp3. TIA I think your best bet is still with Firefox, which works fine over here. It sounds like something else is going on with your setup. Why don't you try uninstalling Firefox, rebooting, and then reinstalling it, for a clean slate? (this is assuming your browser is the culprit here, which may not necessarily be true, as something else may be going on - perhaps even some malware) As for IE, I don't think you can use it on many sites anymore since it's so old and unsupported. At least that has been my experience. IE8 was the last version that works on WinXP, so you can't use IE11. And like you, I'm still using WinXP. I'll throw in one other idea, which may be a long shot: if this situation just recently happened, you could alwsys consider using System Restore to roll back to a date preceding this "event", to see if that helps. That assumes you have a few such restore points available, of course. |
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"Bill in Co" wrote in
: KenK wrote: Tried refreshing Firefox because it was so slow. Did so. Now almost nothing works. Can't switch to Gmail or Google. Refuses to do so. Says bad insecure site (or words to that efect). Back to Iron browser. I don't like it either - especially many web sites don't print completely. Can I return it to non- refreshed state? Evidently I need a good browser. Tried Windows browser - won't run. I follow instructions and get non-existant links. I need a good browser. Which one? Using XP Home, sp3. TIA I think your best bet is still with Firefox, which works fine over here. It sounds like something else is going on with your setup. Why don't you try uninstalling Firefox, rebooting, and then reinstalling it, for a clean slate? (this is assuming your browser is the culprit here, which may not necessarily be true, as something else may be going on - perhaps even some malware) Right. I restarted FF and the tabs all work again. Wonder what happened? Still pretty slow but I'll be better able to tell when I get back on line Monday. Quiting for the weekend now. As for IE, I don't think you can use it on many sites anymore since it's so old and unsupported. At least that has been my experience. IE8 was the last version that works on WinXP, so you can't use IE11. And like you, I'm still using WinXP. I'll throw in one other idea, which may be a long shot: if this situation just recently happened, you could alwsys consider using System Restore to roll back to a date preceding this "event", to see if that helps. That assumes you have a few such restore points available, of course. I don't know if I have any recent restore points. Haven't used restore points in mamy many years. Pretty much forgot how they work. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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KenK wrote:
"Bill in Co" wrote in : KenK wrote: Tried refreshing Firefox because it was so slow. Did so. Now almost nothing works. Can't switch to Gmail or Google. Refuses to do so. Says bad insecure site (or words to that efect). Back to Iron browser. I don't like it either - especially many web sites don't print completely. Can I return it to non- refreshed state? Evidently I need a good browser. Tried Windows browser - won't run. I follow instructions and get non-existant links. I need a good browser. Which one? Using XP Home, sp3. TIA I think your best bet is still with Firefox, which works fine over here. It sounds like something else is going on with your setup. Why don't you try uninstalling Firefox, rebooting, and then reinstalling it, for a clean slate? (this is assuming your browser is the culprit here, which may not necessarily be true, as something else may be going on - perhaps even some malware) Right. I restarted FF and the tabs all work again. Wonder what happened? Still pretty slow but I'll be better able to tell when I get back on line Monday. Quiting for the weekend now. As for IE, I don't think you can use it on many sites anymore since it's so old and unsupported. At least that has been my experience. IE8 was the last version that works on WinXP, so you can't use IE11. And like you, I'm still using WinXP. I'll throw in one other idea, which may be a long shot: if this situation just recently happened, you could alwsys consider using System Restore to roll back to a date preceding this "event", to see if that helps. That assumes you have a few such restore points available, of course. I don't know if I have any recent restore points. Haven't used restore points in mamy many years. Pretty much forgot how they work. Glad to hear it's working now. As for System Restore points, the system normally creates them every day, and depending on how much space you have allocated for them, you will have several such dated restore points, which you could use to roll back your system to (in case of some recent unfortunate event messing up your system which you can't otherwise resolve). You should be able to find System Restore in the Start Menu, under Accessories, System Tools. Typically you might have a couple of weeks or so of such restore points, and you can set the options there for how much disk space to allow for them. I consider it a form of an insurance policy, although it is not as good as is making a system backup (clone or image) on another drive, of course. That is by far the best insurance policy. |
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KenK wrote:
Tried refreshing Firefox because it was so slow. Did so. Now almost nothing works. Can't switch to Gmail or Google. Refuses to do so. Says bad insecure site (or words to that efect). Back to Iron browser. I don't like it either - especially many web sites don't print completely. Can I return it to non- refreshed state? Evidently I need a good browser. Tried Windows browser - won't run. I follow instructions and get non-existant links. I need a good browser. Which one? Using XP Home, sp3. No idea (no mention) if you have tried the following: - Since you were willing to try a new profile in Firefox, why not uninstall Firefox, delete any remnant file and registry entries, and try a new install of Firefox. - Load Firefox in its safe mode. Although you create a new profile, that does not say if you installed add-ons into the new profile or are using Firefox Sync that will reinstall them for you automatically for a sync. - Also test with all your security software disabled (e.g., antivirus, firewall, etc). - Check if the web browser is using a proxy. Internet Options - Connections - LAN settings. You do NOT want to use a proxy (some VPN, antivirus, streaming media capture, and other software will use a local proxy) nor use an auto-config script (only used within a domain). - Boot Windows into its safe mode w/networking to make sure some startup program is not causing the interference. - If IE (aka "Windows browser") won't load (no details - see if Event Viewer recorded a failure) then perhaps it is time to do a full manual scan using an updated version of whatever antivirus software you use and also employ a secondary on-demand antivirus scanner (to overlap converage detection) to check for malware. "Won't run" does not say if IE won't load (or exits immediately upon load) or a site refuses to let you visit there with an old web browser. |
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I restarted FF and the tabs all work again. Wonder what happened? Still pretty slow but I'll be better able to tell when I get back on line Monday. Quiting for the weekend now. Firefox (and IE) have a long-time known problem of not completely unloading when you exit the web browser. Sometimes it leaves behind some remnant processes in memory which interfere with the next load of the web browser. A second load of the web browser (to start a new instance instead of trying to reuse the incomplete old stub still in memory) gets the web browser working (but the stub remains in memory). You have to kill off the stub left in memory so the next load of the web browser will work okay. This has happened since forever with the 32-bit versions of Firefox (and IE). The 64-bit versions incur this defect on unload much less often; however, you cannot run the 64-bit version of the web browser on a 32-bit OS so you're stuck with the old problem. I first noticed this problem (of remnant processes left behind after an exit that interfere with the next load) since Windows XP. Windows 2000, and earlier, are way too long ago for me to remember if the problem happened back then. The problem was exhibited through Vista and 7 (I never bothered with 8 or 10 at home). Once Microsoft and Mozilla offered 64-bit versions to run in a 64-bit version of Windows, the problem mostly went away - but I've kept my kill shortcuts because once in a while the problem happens. As a consequence of repeatedly experiencing a remnant stub of Firefox or IE left in memory interferring with the next load of the web browser, I added shortcuts to a toolbar in the Windows taskbar that kills off all processes for the web browser. Those shortcuts run: For Firefox, the shortcut runs a "killFox.bat" batch file which has: @taskkill.exe /im plugin-container.exe /f @taskkill.exe /im flashplayerplugin /f @taskkill.exe /im firefox.exe /f For Internet Explorer, its kill shortcut runs the command: %windir%\system32\taskkill.exe /im iexplore.exe /f Since I had to kill the remnant processes about 2-3 times per week, these shortcuts were alongside the shortcuts to load the web browsers. If a load took longer than 6 seconds, it was a good bet it was hung due to the remnant processes from the prior use, so I'd click on the "kill" shortcut and re-click on the load shortcut and, voila, it loaded fine. If you search on the problem, the most common excuse is that an add-on is interferring with the exit of the web browser. Yet that logic fails because I've tested with either no add-ons installed or all of them disabled and the remnant stub processes are still sometimes left behind when I exit the web browser. |
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VanguardLH wrote in :
KenK wrote: I restarted FF and the tabs all work again. Wonder what happened? Still pretty slow but I'll be better able to tell when I get back on line Monday. Quiting for the weekend now. Firefox (and IE) have a long-time known problem of not completely unloading when you exit the web browser. Sometimes it leaves behind some remnant processes in memory which interfere with the next load of the web browser. A second load of the web browser (to start a new instance instead of trying to reuse the incomplete old stub still in memory) gets the web browser working (but the stub remains in memory). You have to kill off the stub left in memory so the next load of the web browser will work okay. This has happened since forever with the 32-bit versions of Firefox (and IE). The 64-bit versions incur this defect on unload much less often; however, you cannot run the 64-bit version of the web browser on a 32-bit OS so you're stuck with the old problem. I first noticed this problem (of remnant processes left behind after an exit that interfere with the next load) since Windows XP. Windows 2000, and earlier, are way too long ago for me to remember if the problem happened back then. The problem was exhibited through Vista and 7 (I never bothered with 8 or 10 at home). Once Microsoft and Mozilla offered 64-bit versions to run in a 64-bit version of Windows, the problem mostly went away - but I've kept my kill shortcuts because once in a while the problem happens. As a consequence of repeatedly experiencing a remnant stub of Firefox or IE left in memory interferring with the next load of the web browser, I added shortcuts to a toolbar in the Windows taskbar that kills off all processes for the web browser. Those shortcuts run: For Firefox, the shortcut runs a "killFox.bat" batch file which has: @taskkill.exe /im plugin-container.exe /f @taskkill.exe /im flashplayerplugin /f @taskkill.exe /im firefox.exe /f For Internet Explorer, its kill shortcut runs the command: %windir%\system32\taskkill.exe /im iexplore.exe /f Since I had to kill the remnant processes about 2-3 times per week, these shortcuts were alongside the shortcuts to load the web browsers. If a load took longer than 6 seconds, it was a good bet it was hung due to the remnant processes from the prior use, so I'd click on the "kill" shortcut and re-click on the load shortcut and, voila, it loaded fine. If you search on the problem, the most common excuse is that an add-on is interferring with the exit of the web browser. Yet that logic fails because I've tested with either no add-ons installed or all of them disabled and the remnant stub processes are still sometimes left behind when I exit the web browser. I've had the same problem, but didn't know it was a known issue. I never googled the problem. But, I did inquire within Task Manager and saw that there was an instance of the browser(s) still running. Once killed, I could launch the browser(s) again. Your shortcuts are very cool. I just used them to make my own (although I haven't had this problem in a long, long time). I tested out the shortcuts, and they work great. Thanks,. |
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"Bill in Co" wrote in
: KenK wrote: "Bill in Co" wrote in : KenK wrote: Tried refreshing Firefox because it was so slow. Did so. Now almost nothing works. Can't switch to Gmail or Google. Refuses to do so. Says bad insecure site (or words to that efect). Back to Iron browser. I don't like it either - especially many web sites don't print completely. Can I return it to non- refreshed state? Evidently I need a good browser. Tried Windows browser - won't run. I follow instructions and get non-existant links. I need a good browser. Which one? Using XP Home, sp3. TIA I think your best bet is still with Firefox, which works fine over here. It sounds like something else is going on with your setup. Why don't you try uninstalling Firefox, rebooting, and then reinstalling it, for a clean slate? (this is assuming your browser is the culprit here, which may not necessarily be true, as something else may be going on - perhaps even some malware) Right. I restarted FF and the tabs all work again. Wonder what happened? Still pretty slow but I'll be better able to tell when I get back on line Monday. Quiting for the weekend now. As for IE, I don't think you can use it on many sites anymore since it's so old and unsupported. At least that has been my experience. IE8 was the last version that works on WinXP, so you can't use IE11. And like you, I'm still using WinXP. I'll throw in one other idea, which may be a long shot: if this situation just recently happened, you could alwsys consider using System Restore to roll back to a date preceding this "event", to see if that helps. That assumes you have a few such restore points available, of course. I don't know if I have any recent restore points. Haven't used restore points in mamy many years. Pretty much forgot how they work. Glad to hear it's working now. As for System Restore points, the system normally creates them every day, and depending on how much space you have allocated for them, you will have several such dated restore points, which you could use to roll back your system to (in case of some recent unfortunate event messing up your system which you can't otherwise resolve). You should be able to find System Restore in the Start Menu, under Accessories, System Tools. Typically you might have a couple of weeks or so of such restore points, and you can set the options there for how much disk space to allow for them. Now I'm remembering. Thanks. I consider it a form of an insurance policy, although it is not as good as is making a system backup (clone or image) on another drive, of course. That is by far the best insurance policy. I do that on the first of every month. I have quite a collection of them on a large seldom used external drive. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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