O.T. Dell 8200 cannot power up

LOL loved your first comment and I'm
in total agreement with you but what
do we do after 2020? Just continue to
use the OS sans updates like XP?

The only reason I brought up the question
was that if the 8200 power supply doesn't
work and I had to get another computer to
serve as a backup. Price is a consideration
since I live on a fixed income.

I was looking at maybe the mini-Mac? However,
If I was replacing the 8500 I would want
the cheapest version of Mac Pro but they
start at $3000.00 Yikes!!

A bit rich for my blood especially when
it will be outdated within a few years.

Robert

In passing, I have noticed that
Outlook is really lagging of late
and wonder is there anything I
can do or is this more of Microsoft's
handiwork?

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
In passing, I have noticed that
Outlook is really lagging of late
and wonder is there anything I
can do or is this more of Microsoft's
handiwork?

Robert

Lagging in what way ?

Is Task Manager showing a very busy CPU ?

Does a request to check mail take a long time
to respond ? In which case it could be a DNS
problem, if you're attempting to reach the
email server for the first time.

My experience with my modem, is it is all or
nothing. Either it runs at the standard
rate all day long (312KB/sec) or it drops
sync and transfers nothing. There generally
isn't a "half-good" state, unlike the old
dialup modem I had.

Paul

Mark Twain wrote:
LOL loved your first comment and I'm
in total agreement with you but what
do we do after 2020? Just continue to
use the OS sans updates like XP?

The only reason I brought up the question
was that if the 8200 power supply doesn't
work and I had to get another computer to
serve as a backup. Price is a consideration
since I live on a fixed income.

I was looking at maybe the mini-Mac? However,
If I was replacing the 8500 I would want
the cheapest version of Mac Pro but they
start at $3000.00 Yikes!!

A bit rich for my blood especially when
it will be outdated within a few years.

Robert

I just had a look at the Mac products
on www.apple.com and I have to take back
my comment. There's nothing even close to
reasonably priced there. The gouge is
at least a factor of 2x.

I was hoping the Mac Mini might make a
decent solution, but they want an arm and
a leg for a *dual* core processor. They're
nuts. The low end one has the electronics
of a $100 Walmart tablet, plus about
another $50 worth of RAM, and retails
for $500. Nuts. If they charged $300,
I would be satisfied with the level of
gouge, but not $500. It's not worth $500.

And for a processor upgrade, the processor
upgrade was +$300, and even the better
processor they give you, doesn't cost
$300 to buy one at Newegg. The price of
the Mini then would be $1000, and you could
get a Surface or something instead.

I hadn't realized they'd gone so "Cadillac".

You'd have to be made of money, and lighting
your cigars with $100 bills, to want that
stuff :-)

Paul

It sometimes takes a long time to respond
and eBay did the same thing earlier today
but all other sites worked fine. However,
I've noticed this behavior more than once
on Outlook.

Robert

That's why I never went to Apple,, way
too expensive despite their design.

I'm very satisfied with 8500 and it
should last awhile.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
It sometimes takes a long time to respond
and eBay did the same thing earlier today
but all other sites worked fine. However,
I've noticed this behavior more than once
on Outlook.

Robert

If you want to study the traffic flow on
the machine, you can try Wireshark. The
current version is most likely to be compatible
with the 8500. I'm not sure which is the
last version for WinXP on the 8200.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark

I see the site has progressed to a ludicrous web page design.

https://www.wireshark.org/

Try the download page (if you can get this to work)

https://www.wireshark.org/#download

Under View : Name Resolution, turn on the bottom four
translations of IP address to symbolic address. That
makes the trace easier to read.

You use Capture : Interfaces, then tick the interface that
looks like it belongs to a "live" Internet session. A
computer can have many interfaces which are TCP/IP
capable, but you're not using all of them, and so they
are not useful candidates for tracing.

Things slow down a lot, if your ISP has a "duplicate ACK"
problem. I've seen this a few times with my ISP, even
interfering with the packets to the news server specifically.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...ype-pending-in

Some problems can be traced to DNS problems, where one of
the DNS servers for your service is malfunctioning, and
so every DNS lookup requires a retry. That would slow
everything down equally. Whereas something like
duplicate ACK, might only slow certain paths.

Your machine might have an excessively long HOSTS
file, which is another way that Internet service
can be slowed on a Windows box. Some of the programs
you use to protect the machine, may load up the HOSTS
with items for protection purposes.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

That's the path on a WinXP machine. The file can be
opened with a text editor. At the current time,
I have thirteen entries, blocking stuff from
Facebook :-) Of course, a static setup like
that, doesn't really stop Facebook from tracking
me. I do not have a Facebook account, and so blocking
the site doesn't affect me. Someone who had speed issues
the other day, had *thousands* of entries in that file.

Paul

I installed Wireshark (your right about
the design) but I don't see where the IP
address's are or how I can change to
symbolic addresses ?

http://i63.tinypic.com/1088uis.jpg

but even if I was able to change it I
wouldn't know what I was looking at or
for and since this involves IP address's
I can't post screenshots so you can walk
me through it.


I looked up the hosts files:

http://i68.tinypic.com/ok21ok.jpg

I have allot more than 13 entries so do
I just delete the large file or what?


Thanks
Robert

It happened again today on Outlook;
I replied to one email and clicked
send but it just hung there and never
did send the email.

So I then tried to logoff and it did
the same thing and didn't even present
me with the logoff option.

I checked other sites at the time Yahoo
etc and had no problems. So something
is wrong with Outlook and not the computer
either.

Robert

I uninstalled Wireshark because this
isn't a issue with the computer. It's
Microsoft and their bad design.

Robert

I tried it again and still the same.
Then I went searching to see if others
were having similar problems:

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/outlook.com.html#

Robert

Update:

Outlook, eBay and You Tube are all affected
now yet when I click on Yahoo or MSN there's no
problem or delay. So 'something' is going on.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I installed Wireshark (your right about
the design) but I don't see where the IP
address's are or how I can change to
symbolic addresses ?

http://i63.tinypic.com/1088uis.jpg

but even if I was able to change it I
wouldn't know what I was looking at or
for and since this involves IP address's
I can't post screenshots so you can walk
me through it.


I looked up the hosts files:

http://i68.tinypic.com/ok21ok.jpg

I have allot more than 13 entries so do
I just delete the large file or what?


Thanks
Robert

In the first picture, you can tick all the "Name Resolution"
items. I don't understand why they went back to three
items there, unless you're using an older version of
the package.

And in Capture : Interfaces, that's where you tell it
what Ethernet port to trace. Then click Start.

Then, when using an application like Outlook.com , you
watch the response from both ends. Both sent and
received packets are logged.

It's not important that you understand every packet.
Just look for things like "Dup Ack", the black colored
ones, because those note that the Internet is
interfering with transmission. This can be caused by
routing problems, where two copies of what you're sending,
are coursing through the network. On some days, this
can cause unbearable delays for *everything*. My ISP
has had routing problems like that, and the Wireshark trace
is almost completely black.

If you click Send in Outlook, and you see a packet sent
by your machine, then no response, you would guess that
the other end is causing the problem.

So you don't have to understand the trace in detail.

Now, some protocols, ones in "PlainText", you can
get a very good idea how they're broken. For example,
my USENET newsreader is using the plaintext port on the
NNTP server. And I can view all the status messages
as they come back. I can tell when the authentication
subsystem is busted. I can see that a message was
successfully sent (and then doesn't show up anywhere
else), which tells me there is an internal NNTP server
problem.

It's like a flashlight, and just gives you a feeling
for "activity", without explaining anything.

Paul

I reinstalled Wireshark but I do not
see Interfaces other than to refresh
them.


http://i65.tinypic.com/262tkzc.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2yyqdtd.jpg

Did you see the link I gave with other
people experiencing the same problem?

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/outlook.com.html#

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I reinstalled Wireshark but I do not
see Interfaces other than to refresh
them.


http://i65.tinypic.com/262tkzc.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2yyqdtd.jpg

Did you see the link I gave with other
people experiencing the same problem?

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/outlook.com.html#

Robert

I installed Wireshark 2.0.1 x32 here, and this
is what I got.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2hwo8zb.gif

It picked up "Local Area Connection 2" as the
only networking device visible.

*******

The installer for Wireshark, still consists of two major parts.
You can check for these in Programs and Features.

Wireshark
WinPCap

The Windows Packet Capture package is written separately,
as a means of implementing a promiscuous receiver. It allows
capturing transmitted and received packets from physical NICs.

The WinPCap package doesn't have a "program" in the program menu.
It has options like "uninstall" but is not otherwise intended
for users to be modifying on their own.

Wireshark starts a copy of WinPCap as needed.

To work properly, generally the user has to be a member
of the Administrator group, and I think you meed that
requirement. Otherwise, the ability for WinPCap to attack
a NIC would be restricted, and it wouldn't have the necessary
permissions to work.

In your networking control panel, you *must* have some
Local Area Network connection, as otherwise it would be
pretty hard to work with Outlook.com .

Other things you see while Wireshark and WinPCap install,
is a couple copies of the *same* vcredist_x86 install. If
you're using the x64 version of Wireshark, then you might
see vcredist_x64 or so. These would be Visual Studio DLL
packages, as that's probably how the two programs were
developed and compiled. Those shouldn't cause a problem
either Even installing copies over top would not hurt.

I don't have any theories as to what broke in your case.
There must be a network interface present for it to place
in the main page. And you can see my one network interface
in the picture above.

Paul