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  #16  
Old January 10th 05, 08:14 PM
Ron Martell
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"Alias" wrote:


More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being profitable
and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to pay MS'
high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair use. The
reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and everything to do
with "because they can".


And piracy has nothing to do with price. There are pirated versions
of $5 shareware utilities available from the warez sites.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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  #17  
Old January 10th 05, 08:35 PM
Alias
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"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting "people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to translate it for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of the world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely rich from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--
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: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and everything
to
: do
: with "because they can".
: --
: Alias
:
: Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
:
: Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
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  #18  
Old January 10th 05, 08:36 PM
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"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
: "Alias" wrote:
:
:
: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to pay MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair use.
The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and everything to
do
: with "because they can".
:
: And piracy has nothing to do with price. There are pirated versions
: of $5 shareware utilities available from the warez sites.
:
:
: Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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: Microsoft MVP

It has nothing to do with the price of shareware, I agree. I has to do with
the price in three figures of MS, Adobe, etc.
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  #19  
Old January 10th 05, 08:50 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Only to those seeking an excuse to steel what they would most likely steal
at any price.
Since they are thieves, they steal...at any price.

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"Alias" wrote in message
...
It has nothing to do with the price of shareware, I agree. I has to do
with
the price in three figures of MS, Adobe, etc.
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  #20  
Old January 10th 05, 08:50 PM
Joe
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"Leythos" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I heard or read that now adays it was supposedly almost impossible for
people to pirate XP, due to improved systems etc.etc. If people can
pirate
XP with all microsofts resources then what chance have other software
developers?


I turned down a job the other day because I was told that the chap used
a key gen program to make his XP Keys - he even said they worked with
SP2, but that it took about 50 gen'd keys to get one that worked. I
didn't verify it and wanted nothing to do with the job or anything else.

Since the 70's people have been claiming they can secure programs from
pirates, and I've never found one that worked for long - even the
dongles were duplicated shortly after they came out.



Here in the UK it is considered not a criminal offence, therefore it is not
in the eyes of the law "Stealing".

According to UK law, if you copy a tape and your freind listens to that tape
the exact same copyrite violation happens. Only when you are actually
"selling pirated goods" does that then become a criminal offence. The words
"stealing" is not appropriate in UK law. That is why nobody has even legally
been prosecuted under UK criminal law for the act of copying a software
program.

You many call it theft by name but not according to the UK law. It is
"copyrite violation".

If this became theft in law, and was a criminal offence, I believe that this
would actually cut piracy alot. How many people will download a song if they
can technically risk prison, now, nobody can get charged with any criminal
offence adn cannot ever get a criminal record no matter what they copy and
download here in the UK


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  #21  
Old January 10th 05, 08:51 PM
Joe
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"Dan" wrote in message
...
So this chap would rather spend his time trying to cheat Microsoft and not
just spend the time to do legitimate work so that he could buy a legal
copy.
I may be financially strapped at times but it does not override my moral
code of resorting to stealing even if Microsoft is indeed charging too
much
for their software.


I have read reports of these groups of hackers, it is not something they do
for money or financial gain, they are not actually making money from it I
believe. The actual hackers are actually highly intelligent programmers
(some of them), it is kind of like a game or a cult type of thing.

I am not talking about so called script kiddies, but they are serious users
who gain status from these activities.


  #22  
Old January 10th 05, 08:55 PM
B Smith
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Ask jupiter jones what a Spanish courst is for me. I plonked him a long
time ago so I can't ask him myself. And since he's an MVP, why he can't
get his spell checker to working. TIA

"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting "people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to translate it for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of the world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely rich from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.

Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and everything
to
: do
: with "because they can".
: --
: Alias
:
: Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
:
: Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
:
:
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  #23  
Old January 10th 05, 09:01 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Your feeble attempts to justify theft are noted and likely reflective on
you.

People work hard for their intellectual property just as others do in other
fields.
They deserve to be paid what they ask or the buyer simply chooses to go
elsewhere same as other fields.

I suppose you take charity, fruits of others efforts and contribute
nothing?
Or do you sell a product or service and yet seem to deny others the same
simply because it is intellectual property?
Good of you to judge that others can't sell at a fair price something you
are unable to provide for yourself.
Perhaps we should arbitrarily let others steal whatever you have with no
punishment even if caught!

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting "people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to translate it
for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of the
world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely rich
from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.

Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair
use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and everything
to
: do
: with "because they can".
: --
: Alias
:
: Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email
me.
:
: Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
:
:
:
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  #24  
Old January 10th 05, 09:12 PM
David Candy
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But alias is right. It is a US thing. The US government is busy coercing =
other countries into adopting US law. In Australia, copyright holders =
were just given a 20 year free extension of copyright (from 50 years =
after death to 70 years) at the instigation of the US government.

Remember IP is anti capitalist. MS is attempting to become the rentiers =
rather than capitalists. Capitalism replaced rents and the system was =
called feudal. That why marxist don't rail against rentiers, we thought =
they were long gone.

IP is only a legal fiction that rentiers use to extort money from =
others. IP is actually a crime of theft.
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.uscricket.com
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
Your feeble attempts to justify theft are noted and likely reflective =

on=20
you.
=20
People work hard for their intellectual property just as others do in =

other=20
fields.
They deserve to be paid what they ask or the buyer simply chooses to =

go=20
elsewhere same as other fields.
=20
I suppose you take charity, fruits of others efforts and contribute=20
nothing?
Or do you sell a product or service and yet seem to deny others the =

same=20
simply because it is intellectual property?
Good of you to judge that others can't sell at a fair price something =

you=20
are unable to provide for yourself.
Perhaps we should arbitrarily let others steal whatever you have with =

no=20
punishment even if caught!
=20
--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
=20
=20
"Alias" wrote in message=20
...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting =

"people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --=20
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to translate =

it=20
for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of the =


world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual =

property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely =

rich=20
from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software =

houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--=20
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email =

me.

Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to =

pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to =

economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that =

fair=20
use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and =

everything
to
: do
: with "because they can".
: --=20
: Alias
:
: Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to =

email=20
me.
:
: Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
:
:
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:

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  #25  
Old January 10th 05, 09:20 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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David;
It seems like you are suggesting countries outside the US do not care about
IP?
If that is true, there is far less incentive to create it.
Perhaps that is one of the reasons a US company is so interested in IP
rights.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
But alias is right. It is a US thing. The US government is busy coercing
other countries into adopting US law. In Australia, copyright holders were
just given a 20 year free extension of copyright (from 50 years after death
to 70 years) at the instigation of the US government.

Remember IP is anti capitalist. MS is attempting to become the rentiers
rather than capitalists. Capitalism replaced rents and the system was called
feudal. That why marxist don't rail against rentiers, we thought they were
long gone.

IP is only a legal fiction that rentiers use to extort money from others. IP
is actually a crime of theft.
--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.uscricket.com
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Your feeble attempts to justify theft are noted and likely reflective on
you.

People work hard for their intellectual property just as others do in
other
fields.
They deserve to be paid what they ask or the buyer simply chooses to go
elsewhere same as other fields.

I suppose you take charity, fruits of others efforts and contribute
nothing?
Or do you sell a product or service and yet seem to deny others the same
simply because it is intellectual property?
Good of you to judge that others can't sell at a fair price something you
are unable to provide for yourself.
Perhaps we should arbitrarily let others steal whatever you have with no
punishment even if caught!

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting "people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to translate it
for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of the
world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely rich
from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.

Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair
use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and
everything
to
: do
: with "because they can".
: --
: Alias
:
: Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email
me.
:
: Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
:
:
:
:






  #26  
Old January 10th 05, 09:29 PM
NoWaySpammers
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Intellectual property huh?

Why then when I work for say 12 hours, do I get paid once, yet say a
musician who works for 12 hours gets paid the once then time and time
again.........every someone buys it...and lots of people buy my stuff too...

Same with software writers......They only ever write it once.....




"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Your feeble attempts to justify theft are noted and likely reflective on
you.

People work hard for their intellectual property just as others do in
other fields.
They deserve to be paid what they ask or the buyer simply chooses to go
elsewhere same as other fields.

I suppose you take charity, fruits of others efforts and contribute
nothing?
Or do you sell a product or service and yet seem to deny others the same
simply because it is intellectual property?
Good of you to judge that others can't sell at a fair price something you
are unable to provide for yourself.
Perhaps we should arbitrarily let others steal whatever you have with no
punishment even if caught!

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting "people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to translate it
for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of the
world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely rich
from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.

Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair
use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and
everything
to
: do
: with "because they can".
: --
: Alias
:
: Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email
me.
:
: Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
:
:
:
:






  #27  
Old January 10th 05, 09:34 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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What are the terms of the contract with your employer?
If you want different terms, negotiate with your employer.

Other than that, your post is not really relevant.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"NoWaySpammers" wrote in message
...
Intellectual property huh?

Why then when I work for say 12 hours, do I get paid once, yet say a
musician who works for 12 hours gets paid the once then time and time
again.........every someone buys it...and lots of people buy my stuff
too...

Same with software writers......They only ever write it once.....




"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Your feeble attempts to justify theft are noted and likely reflective on
you.

People work hard for their intellectual property just as others do in
other fields.
They deserve to be paid what they ask or the buyer simply chooses to go
elsewhere same as other fields.

I suppose you take charity, fruits of others efforts and contribute
nothing?
Or do you sell a product or service and yet seem to deny others the same
simply because it is intellectual property?
Good of you to judge that others can't sell at a fair price something you
are unable to provide for yourself.
Perhaps we should arbitrarily let others steal whatever you have with no
punishment even if caught!

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting "people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to translate it
for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of the
world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely rich
from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.

Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford to
pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that fair
use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and
everything
to
: do
: with "because they can".
: --
: Alias
:
: Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email
me.
:
: Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
:
:
:
:








  #28  
Old January 10th 05, 09:50 PM
David Candy
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Other countries recognise IP (1709 for both our countries from the =
Statute Of Anne in England) . But there is a balance between public vs =
private. The concessions to private interests are there for the public =
good. What we have in the US (and elsewhere) is lobby groups changing =
the law and the law being changed to suit private interests. This =
changes the balance.

Copyright is just one example of private interests ripping off the =
public. For instance US and EU farmers are expert at getting both =
taxpapers AND consumers to finance their lives.

In Australia, a capitalist country, the process of unwinding rents (only =
newsagents can sell newspapers, only chemists can sell drugs, only =
bottle shops can sell alcohol) is known as micro economic reform. Rents =
are anti-capitalist. Australia's economic growth (the longest in =
recorded history) is based on both macro and micro economic reform. =
Micro economic reform is harder as vested interests fight to keep their =
rents, often professing concern for the workers, or for children =
(anything emotional). Capitalist argue that if something is economically =
distorting but the public good warrants the goal of the distorting =
behaviour then the government should fund that public good directly. An =
example is public education (and in Australia public health - employers =
have no health role in Australia).

In the US in particular the rent seekers have captured your congress. =
Participants in a market economy always seek rents to avoid competition. =
The enemy of capitalism are the participants. That's why you have an FTC =
and we have an ACCC.

Nothing human is black and white. IP is theft and so is stealing IP.=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.uscricket.com
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
David;
It seems like you are suggesting countries outside the US do not care =

about=20
IP?
If that is true, there is far less incentive to create it.
Perhaps that is one of the reasons a US company is so interested in IP =


rights.
=20
--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
=20
=20
"David Candy" . wrote in message=20
...
But alias is right. It is a US thing. The US government is busy =

coercing=20
other countries into adopting US law. In Australia, copyright holders =

were=20
just given a 20 year free extension of copyright (from 50 years after =

death=20
to 70 years) at the instigation of the US government.
=20
Remember IP is anti capitalist. MS is attempting to become the =

rentiers=20
rather than capitalists. Capitalism replaced rents and the system was =

called=20
feudal. That why marxist don't rail against rentiers, we thought they =

were=20
long gone.
=20
IP is only a legal fiction that rentiers use to extort money from =

others. IP=20
is actually a crime of theft.
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.uscricket.com
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message=20
...
Your feeble attempts to justify theft are noted and likely reflective =

on
you.

People work hard for their intellectual property just as others do in =


other
fields.
They deserve to be paid what they ask or the buyer simply chooses to =

go
elsewhere same as other fields.

I suppose you take charity, fruits of others efforts and contribute
nothing?
Or do you sell a product or service and yet seem to deny others the =

same
simply because it is intellectual property?
Good of you to judge that others can't sell at a fair price something =

you
are unable to provide for yourself.
Perhaps we should arbitrarily let others steal whatever you have with =

no
punishment even if caught!

--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
:
: Please show a source that shows the Spanish courst supporting =

"people
: copying friends' software" as fair use.
:
: --=20
: Jupiter Jones [MVP]

http://www.bufetalmeida.com/sentencias/sentencias.html

Gotta be able to read Spanish, though, as I am not going to =

translate it
for
you. Babelfish will give you an idea, though. Yaknow, the rest of =

the
world
isn't as rich as the USA, nor is it as anal about intellectual =

property
rights, especially with software rip off houses that are obscenely =

rich
from
selling their overpriced software. Some would call the software =

houses
attempts to stop "piracy" as "greedy" but YMMV.
--=20
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email =

me.

Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

: "Alias" wrote

: More like the high prices give rise to pirtated versions being
profitable
: and people copying friends' software because they can't afford =

to pay
MS'
: high prices. Some people call using pirated versions due to =

economic
: necesity stealing, others, like the Spanish courts, call that =

fair
use.
: The
: reason MS charges so much has nothing to do with piracy and=20
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to
: do
: with "because they can".
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  #29  
Old January 10th 05, 10:15 PM
Dan
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Here in the U.S. the music industry has started file suits against
individuals who download music illegally. They are sometimes given large
fines. Also, the movie industry is trying to stop too many movies from
being copied now that DVD burners have been out for a while.

"Joe" wrote in message
...

"Leythos" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I heard or read that now adays it was supposedly almost impossible for
people to pirate XP, due to improved systems etc.etc. If people can
pirate
XP with all microsofts resources then what chance have other software
developers?


I turned down a job the other day because I was told that the chap used
a key gen program to make his XP Keys - he even said they worked with
SP2, but that it took about 50 gen'd keys to get one that worked. I
didn't verify it and wanted nothing to do with the job or anything else.

Since the 70's people have been claiming they can secure programs from
pirates, and I've never found one that worked for long - even the
dongles were duplicated shortly after they came out.



Here in the UK it is considered not a criminal offence, therefore it is

not
in the eyes of the law "Stealing".

According to UK law, if you copy a tape and your freind listens to that

tape
the exact same copyrite violation happens. Only when you are actually
"selling pirated goods" does that then become a criminal offence. The

words
"stealing" is not appropriate in UK law. That is why nobody has even

legally
been prosecuted under UK criminal law for the act of copying a software
program.

You many call it theft by name but not according to the UK law. It is
"copyrite violation".

If this became theft in law, and was a criminal offence, I believe that

this
would actually cut piracy alot. How many people will download a song if

they
can technically risk prison, now, nobody can get charged with any criminal
offence adn cannot ever get a criminal record no matter what they copy and
download here in the UK


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  #30  
Old January 10th 05, 10:19 PM
Dan
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Okay, my mistake. I guess these illegal users are lacking spirit and life.
Thanks for the correction. :

"Steve N." wrote in message
...
Raymond J. Johnson Jr. wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
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| I hope that Microsoft is able to fix the problem because it raises

prices
| for legitimate users as well as hurting the computer industry. I have
| noticied a laxadasical (uncaring, unconcerned) attitude towards people

so
| called borrowing (eg. stealing) software from a friend and then

installing
| it on their computer and thus having two copies of the same software

when
in
| reality the EULA only allows for one installation.
|

I've noticed a "laxadasical" attitude in some people towards the

spelling
and pronunciation of "lackadaisical."



And it doesn't mean "uncaring, unconcerned" either. It means "lacking
spirit, life, zest" according to Miriam-Webster.

Steve



 




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