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So I want access to the computer and won't change because Microsoft says I should! You have as much "access to the computer" with Win 8 as you do/did with any previous OS. Just out of curiosity, just what is it you want to access and what do you want to do with it? Regardless, it is probably a bad idea. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:11:57 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote: has written on 9/9/2013 11:41 AM: Being "up with the times" is not high on my list --- I don't even own anything with a touch screen and, so fa,r haven't found any reason to do so. What is the expression ? Ah, --- "he's old and set in his ways". :-) I have a friend who is 79. He is completely non-technical and HATES change. Recently, I convinced him to dump his XP machine that he complained was running very slowly and had him buy an inexpensive Win 8 all-in-one. I fixed it up with StartIsBack ($3.00) and a couple of extra tricks, so that it boots to the log in screen and then goes directly to the desktop. He has had ZERO trouble using it. In fact, he has no idea that it's running Win 8. Well first one would have to know that all these add-ons existed, then how to use them etc. I installed classic Shell and downloaded and installed some software and moved some stuff from older computers. But just trivial stuff --- find directories, scan directories, store in specific directories, make directories , etc etc are all mysteries. I';v already become the standing joke in the Win 8 group because of all the dumb questions. And at my age, why bother ?? I'll worry about that stuff after they stop upgrading Win 7 rather that beating my head against a wall making Win 8 imitate Win 7. to the command line, hidden files, all the Windows management tools, etc. No touch screens in either of the above. P.S. I did the same for friend's wife and for my wife, too. You have nothing to fear! :-) |
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:49:16 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote: has written on 9/9/2013 1:07 PM: On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:11:57 -0400, Juan Wei wrote: has written on 9/9/2013 11:41 AM: Being "up with the times" is not high on my list --- I don't even own anything with a touch screen and, so fa,r haven't found any reason to do so. What is the expression ? Ah, --- "he's old and set in his ways". :-) I have a friend who is 79. He is completely non-technical and HATES change. Recently, I convinced him to dump his XP machine that he complained was running very slowly and had him buy an inexpensive Win 8 all-in-one. I fixed it up with StartIsBack ($3.00) and a couple of extra tricks, so that it boots to the log in screen and then goes directly to the desktop. He has had ZERO trouble using it. In fact, he has no idea that it's running Win 8. Well first one would have to know that all these add-ons existed, then how to use them etc. StartIsBack is the only add-on. The rest are configurations. I installed classic Shell and downloaded and installed some software and moved some stuff from older computers. But just trivial stuff --- find directories, scan directories, store in specific directories, make directories , etc etc are all mysteries. What did you use in XP to do those things? Windows Explorer? Guess what -- Win 8 has it, too. Once you install StartIsBack and do the configurations, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO LEARN!!! You will have a Win-7-working machine. I installed Classic Shell. Do I just get Startback and install it also?? |
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I installed Classic Shell. Do I just get Startback and install it also?? Pointless, you already have Classic Shell. Both are for the same purpose, you only need one. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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Well, I did install Classic Shell. And "nearly" subjective. I didn't find it so --- but then I haven't learned Win 7 well yet either --- just bought a new laptop with 7 installed so I'll start Yeah, "nearly" is subjective. It also depends upon individual tastes. Tell me, just WTF do you want??? Here are a couple of screen shots of my Win 8 desktop. That's where I land when the machine boots. Normally, there is nothing on it...no "My Computer"...no "Recycle Bin". I don't want orneed those things. In the screen shots, there are 3-4 things that are there temporarily until I take care of them. That's what I use both my actual and my computer desktops for - temporary things. In the screen shots, the task bar is also visible. I keep it at the left side and it is normally hidden until such time as I want it; when I do, I move the cursor to the left edge and the taskbar pops out. One screen shot shows the "All Programs" menu, the other shows "Settings" Pretty much the same as they woud be in Win7, WinXP, Win98 or Win95. They do have some special icons I made but that is a matter of taste; they could have standard icons if I wished. The existence of the menus is thanks to Classic Shell as is the "start" button which is the graphic at the top of the taskbar. The appearance of the start menu and what is on it, how it behaves, etc. is configurable via Classic Shell's menu; one way to access that menu is to right click the start button. Take a look at the screen shots and tell me what is do damned hard about Win8 with Classic Shell. IOW, are you stubborn or just totally computer illiterate? http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/allprograms.gif http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/settings.gif -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:27:56 -0500, wrote:
I installed Classic Shell. Do I just get Startback and install it also?? No. You install *either* ClassicShell, StartIsBack, Start8, or any other such programs. They all do similar things and you don't want multiples of these. My personal favorite is Start8. Ken |
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:34:00 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote in Re Downgrading from Win 8: On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 09:22:28 -0500, wrote: I've been doing computers since the very begining -- my first was before floppy disks were invented and before the word "software" was coined. Pretty good. Not many people here have been doing computers since before 1958. Quite so. -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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My two cents,
Did you build your own white box or bought it from an OEM like Dell? OEM's like Dell still offer Windows 7 systems, so it's much easier if I were you to buy one from them and all drivers are for Windows 7. If you bought one from an OEM, perhaps, you could return it and ask for a Win 7 system. I am also a computer hobbyist, most of time, so I can't help to play some "latest and greatest" hardware and software, but when it comes to doing things, an OS is just a platform to support applications and hardware that are meant for productivity and personal pleasure, so I don't see any reason to relearn a new interface when there is no tangible benefits. Windows 7 will last for many years to come, and for myself, if Win 9 is similar to Win 8, I will move to another platform which is long overdue. On 9/8/2013 22:03, wrote: I'm seriously considering dumping Win 8 from a new computer and installing either XP Pro or Win 7 very possibly the former-- and keep it on 'til the updates stop nest year and then, if I live that long, upgrading to Win 7. Yeah ---laugh all you want -- but, to my actual question: My understand is that I install the OS then install the drivers (right?). So, that's fine --if I have the drivers on a disk. But, suppose I download the drivers ahead of installing the OS -- how then do I get them on the machine? |
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Pretty good. Not many people here have been doing computers since before
1958. Some were not born yet. Ooops. On 9/10/2013 07:34, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 09:22:28 -0500, wrote: I've been doing computers since the very begining -- my first was before floppy disks were invented and before the word "software" was coined. Pretty good. Not many people here have been doing computers since before 1958. |
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