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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
In another thread, we found that nobody has ported a useful Android open-source tool to Windows, where Andy Burns suggested that Android emulation on Windows might work. Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...re/fLmXv99riaY As many of us are ancient octogenarians, we've already tried almost every emulator that ever existed by now - so - I simply ask one question here of the people who *ALREADY* use Android emulation on Windows. If you don't already use Android emulation, you probably won't be able to answer the question I don't think. However ... If you do use Android emulation on Windows, what free emulator do you recommend for running an F-Droid open-source tool such as New Pipe is? https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ (I will post the results of a RTFM in a followup but the question is not what free emulators "exist" nor which are in the "top 10" lists - but which free emulator *you* use that you like - and why). The topic is: What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn news
(I will post the results of a RTFM in a followup but the question is not what free emulators "exist" nor which are in the "top 10" lists - but which free emulator *you* use that you like - and why). The topic is: What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? This is just the result of a Google search, which shows, as always, that there is no consensus as to what free emulator is best for running F-Droid APKs such as New Pipe. If nobody uses Android emulation on Windows, then this thread will be (thankfully) short in that I will likely (almost blindly) choose one of the emulators listed below. A very quick skim seems to show Nox as a good starting point, where, as always, the immense cost of freeware is in all the work finding the good ones. Top 7 Free Android Emulators for PC Windows 7/8/8.1/10 | Run Android apps on Computer PC/Windows 7/8.1/10 http://techapple.net/2014/12/top-7-f...indows-78-110/ 1. Nox App Player http://digitalmid.com/nox_setup_v5.0.0.1_full.exe 2. BlueStacks https://goo.gl/boz823 3. KO Player http://down1.koplayer.com/Emulator/n...1052-co020.exe 4. Andyroid Andy OS https://goo.gl/AktCGi 5. Droid4X http://droid4x.com 6. Windroy - The Android emulator with a Windows Kernel! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B72...it?usp=sharing 7. GenyMotion https://www.genymotion.com 8 Best Android Emulators for Windows 10 to Run Android Games & Apps http://windowsreport.com/best-androi...rs-windows-10/ 1. Andy http://www.andyroid.net/test/getandy...tner=winreport 2. Droid4X http://www.droid4x.com/ 3. BlueStacks http://www.bluestacks.com/ 4. AMIDuOS http://www.amiduos.com/ 5. Windroy http://windroy.en.softonic.com/ 6. Genymotion https://www.genymotion.com/#!/ 7. Nox http://en.bignox.com/ 8. Xamarin Android Player https://xamarin-android-player.s3.am...ayer%20x64.exe 7 Best Android Emulators for Windows You Can Use https://beebom.com/best-android-emulators-windows/ 1. Remix OS Player http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download 2. MEmu http://www.memuplay.com/ 3. Nox Player https://www.bignox.com/#p1 4. BlueStacks http://www.bluestacks.com/#gref 5. AMIDuOS http://www.amiduos.com/ (30-day trial) 6. LeapDroid https://leapdroid.en.softonic.com/ 7. Genymotion https://www.genymotion.com/ 8. AndyOS (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine) http://www.andyroid.net/ 9. KoPlayer (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine) http://www.koplayer.com/ 10. Droid4X (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine) http://www.softpedia.com/get/Mobile-.../Droid4X.shtml 11. Android Studio (official Android emulator bundled with the dev env) https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html 12+- Best Android Emulators For Windows PC & Mac 2018 http://www.androidcrush.com/best-and...or-pc-windows/ 1. Nox App Player https://www.bignox.com/ 2. Remix OS Player http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download 3. BlueStacks http://www.bluestacks.com/ 4. GenyMotion https://www.genymotion.com/ 5. MEmu http://www.memuplay.com/download.php...p&from=home_en 6. Andyroid http://filehippo.com/download_andy/ 7. Ko Player http://www.koplayer.com/ 8. Youwave https://youwave.com/download/ 9. VirtualBox with Android ISO https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads http://www.android-x86.org/download 10. Android Studio+IBk-s Emulator https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html 11. Xamarin Android Player https://developer.xamarin.com/releas...ndroid-player/ 12. LeapDroid (no longer available) As always, all my threads are opened to advance our immense combined tribal knowledge. In summary, the topic of this thread is: What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 20:17:47 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch wrote:
If nobody uses Android emulation on Windows, then this thread will be (thankfully) short in that I will likely (almost blindly) choose one of the emulators listed below. I run Android-x86 inside VMware Player on Windows. Android-x86 http://www.android-x86.org/ or https://www.osboxes.org/android-x86/ I used the ISOs from android-x86.org, rather than the VM image from osboxes.org. I am not using any APKs from F-Droid, so I can't advise on F-Droid compatibility. Other APKs have worked fine. -- Kind regards Ralph Simple Simon met a pieman, going to the fair; Says Simple Simon to the pieman, "Let me taste your ware." Says the pieman to Simple Simon, "Show me first your penny"; Says Simple Simon to the pieman, "Indeed I have not any." |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , Ralph Fox
wrote: I run Android-x86 inside VMware Player on Windows. Android-x86 http://www.android-x86.org/ or https://www.osboxes.org/android-x86/ I used the ISOs from android-x86.org, rather than the VM image from osboxes.org. I am not using any APKs from F-Droid, so I can't advise on F-Droid compatibility. Other APKs have worked fine. Thanks for this suggestion, borne of your experience, which I appreciate. I don't think the APK source matters all that much - but I listed it because that F-Droid New Pipe APK is what's going to be the testcase. Since I am running VirtualBox already, I would likely use the Android ISO you suggest with VirtualBox (because that would be more efficient for me). https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads http://www.android-x86.org/download The web "android-x86.org" web page is confusing because it lists two different links for the latest 32-bit and 64-bit ISO but each page seems to have similarly 32-bit and 64-bit links so it's hard to tell which one to use for a 64-bit Windows 10 test machine. android-x86.org 32-bit link (but it has 64-bit ISOs): https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....x86-6.0-r3.iso android-x86.org 64-bit link (but it has 32-bit ISOs): https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86...._64-6.0-r3.iso Other than the confusing array of ISOs to choose from, this seems like a nice way to run Android APKs on Windows. Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
He who is Joe Scotch said on Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:29:18 -0000 (UTC):
Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? Here's what I tried first, but Windows 10 hung when I tried it. 1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (mine was already configured). a. Find the latest stable version: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT (5.1.30) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/ b. Download the latest stable ISO: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe c. Download the latest stable guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso 2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB) https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso 3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried: Name: Android32b Type: Other Version: Other/Unknown Memory size: 64MB Create a virtual hard disk now. VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) Dynamically allocated Virtual hard disk size: 2.00GB Start Select startup disk: android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso (681.00MB) Start Selection choice: Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation == I chose this option Live CD - VESA mode Live CD - Debug mode Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk The Windows-10 64-bit machine hung. I had to kill VirtualBox to get my Windows mouse back. Everything else was fine on Windows when I killed VirtualBox. So, the Android ISO didn't work on the first pass. |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for runningF-Droid APKs?
Joe Scotch wrote:
He who is Joe Scotch said on Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:29:18 -0000 (UTC): Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? Here's what I tried first, but Windows 10 hung when I tried it. 1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (mine was already configured). a. Find the latest stable version: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT (5.1.30) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/ b. Download the latest stable ISO: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe c. Download the latest stable guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso 2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB) https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso 3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried: Name: Android32b Type: Other Version: Other/Unknown Memory size: 64MB Create a virtual hard disk now. VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) Dynamically allocated Virtual hard disk size: 2.00GB Start Select startup disk: android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso (681.00MB) Start Selection choice: Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation =I chose this option Live CD - VESA mode Live CD - Debug mode Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk The Windows-10 64-bit machine hung. I had to kill VirtualBox to get my Windows mouse back. Everything else was fine on Windows when I killed VirtualBox. So, the Android ISO didn't work on the first pass. "Memory size: 64MB" === How many smart phones do you know, that are this small ? You might want to check what the typical size setting is for that. I don't know what a good value would be, but you'd better try another value. Paul |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 22:41:35 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch wrote:
He who is Joe Scotch said on Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:29:18 -0000 (UTC): Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? Here is what I did with VMware Player 1. Download the Android X86 32-bit ISO file. 2. Configure a new virtual machine in VMware Player Installer ISO: set to the Android X86 ISO OS: "Other Linux 3.x kernel" (change; VMware wanted to default to BSD) 2GB RAM 32GB HDD 3. Start the new virtual machine, which then boots from the ISO as a virtual CD drive 4. The ISO asks if I want to (a) Run Android from the CD without installation (b) Install Android to the hard disk (virtual hard disk, that is). If I choose (a) to run from the CD, there is no permanent storage. Anything I download, any APKs I install, are gone when I next boot from the CD. 5. I choose (b) to install Android on the (virtual) HDD. 6. The ISO asks a few more questions * Do I want to install GRUB -- yes * How to format the file system -- ext4 7. The ISO then installs Android on the virtual HDD. 8. The ISO asks permission to reboot the VM. 9. I agree to reboot. 10. I disconnect the virtual CD to ensure that the VM boots from the virtual HDD and not from the "Live CD" ISO. FWIW here are a couple of articles about running Android-x86 in VMware. They are now a few years old and refer to older versions of Android, but they may be useful. * https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation...rkstation.html * http://xmodulo.com/how-to-install-an...re-player.html Here's what I tried first, but Windows 10 hung when I tried it. 1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (mine was already configured). a. Find the latest stable version: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT (5.1.30) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/ b. Download the latest stable ISO: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe c. Download the latest stable guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso I don't know about VirtualBox, but VMware does not have guest additions for Android. The VMware guest additions for Linux do not install on Android. 2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB) https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso 3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried: Name: Android32b Type: Other Version: Other/Unknown Memory size: 64MB Your typical Android device today has 2GB or 3GB RAM, so that is what I would use for memory here. I expect 64MB is not enough for modern versions of Android. If you are running from "Live CD" (ISO) without installation, I believe it uses part of this virtual RAM to simulate storage. So you don't want to make this too small. Create a virtual hard disk now. VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) Dynamically allocated Virtual hard disk size: 2.00GB Your typical Android device today has 16GB or 32GB of storage, so that is what I would use for HDD size here. 2GB is probably not enough for the Android system. Start Select startup disk: android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso (681.00MB) Start Selection choice: Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation == I chose this option That may be OK for an initial look-see. The catch with running without installation is that there is no permanent storage. Anything you download, any APKs you install, are gone when you next run Android from the Live CD (ISO). Live CD - VESA mode Live CD - Debug mode Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk The Windows-10 64-bit machine hung. I had to kill VirtualBox to get my Windows mouse back. Your virtual machine's RAM setting (64MB) looks way too low. Try 2GB or 3GB. If you still can't get it working, try one of the preconfigured VM images from osboxes.org. Everything else was fine on Windows when I killed VirtualBox. So, the Android ISO didn't work on the first pass. -- Kind regards Ralph |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
Joe Scotch wrote:
What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? https://appzy9.com/download-f-droid-apk-android-ios-pc/ Me (as in "you" in which do "you" use)? Nope, don't use any Android apps on my Windows desktop PC so I don't need an Android emulator. The above is how that person got F-Droid working for them under Windows. Bluestacks https://www.bluestacks.com/ (free) From the appzy9 site: Is F-droid Safe To Use? F-droid is the best app for download applications and also update the pre installed apps. Comical response. Never addresses the question. Like most software authors and content providers, they idemnify themselves; see https://f-droid.org/en/about/ ("use it at your own risk"). From https://f-droid.org/en/docs/: It is a community-run free software project developed by a wide range of contributors. From https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Known_Repositories and https://forum.f-droid.org/t/known-repositories/721, there are a couple of official F-droid repositories. They do set some flags on some apps (https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/AntiFeatures). 1464 apps have one, or more, flags on them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid says "The F-Droid repository contains a growing number of more than 2,300 apps", so either only about 64% have been analyzed or only 64% qualify for having flag(s) set on them or some percentage of some analyzed apps have gotten flagged. Impossible to tell how many apps have been analyzed. |
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/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:
From https://f-droid.org/en/docs/: It is a community-run free software project developed by a wide range of contributors. Just to clarify ... My only concern at this point in time is *how* to run an Android APK on Windows - which is a valid technical question. Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. In my case, as I said in the OP, the only Android app I care to run on Windows is New Pipe because it has functionality that isn't known to be available on Windows in a single executable. https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe |
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 22:45:55 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch
wrote: Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. Maybe some such people do, but not me. |
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/nIn , Ken Blake
wrote: Maybe some such people do, but not me. Ummm.... OK. I have no desire to wear a dress and frilly panties either ... but I don't muddle a technical thread just to tell the world I'm not interested in doing so like you just did. |
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Joe Scotch wrote:
I have no desire to wear a dress and frilly panties Something tells me you do. |
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Ken Blake wrote:
Joe Scotch wrote: Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. Maybe some such people do, but not me. Not me. The only thing that matters is the ability to transfer files between various devices and my PC. The idea of looking for an Android app that works on Windows sounds silly to me, considering the excess of Windows' apps that has existed for decades. |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn news
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Not me. The only thing that matters is the ability to transfer files between various devices and my PC. This is trivial to transfer files over the local LAN from Android to Windows and vice versa. I've been doing it for years using zero software on Windows and just the one "FTP Server (Free)" open-source software on Android. Windows file explorer works fine, as does FileZilla or WinSCP freeware to transfer *anything* from or to Android and Windows over the LAN. You can even use rsync-like tools to sync your Android memory with your Windows hard disk. The idea of looking for an Android app that works on Windows sounds silly to me, considering the excess of Windows' apps that has existed for decades. VanguardLH kindly wrote up an extensive analysis of his Android tools with respect to their need on Windows, as did I in response. Other than the really free nice hourglass timers on Android, and the very easy to use free photo manipulation tools, Wi-Fi debuggers (particularly for laptops), Bluetooth OBD Scanners (for laptops), SMS/Visual Voicemail apps, police/fire scanners, and calculator widgets, I think most of the rest of the tools on my Android phone have better Windows counterparts. |
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
Joe Scotch wrote:
Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. Maybe for some Android games. All the apps on my Android phone either have a far more robust counterpart on my desktop PC under Windows 7 or the Android apps are not applicable for use on my desktop PC. - A compass app makes no sense on a desktop PC that never moves atop a desk that doesn't move in a house that doesn't move. - An app to detail the cellular signal and tower is not applicable on a desktop PC without cellular components. - Although I could use wifi to connect a desktop PC to the wifi router/cable modem, I prefer wired Ethernet connections for security and simplicity and highest bandwidth, so I don't need an Android app emulated on my PC telling me the wifi details. Some users do use wifi between their desktop PCs and their wifi router but there are are Windows programs for that rather than using an Android emulator to run an Android app. - There are Android apps for MS Word, Excel, Powerpoint, OneNote, and Outlook. I prefer the far more robust desktop versions of those programs. If I wanted free equivalents, I'd use LibreOffice for the office suite, emClient for e-mail/calendar/tasks/contacts (I trialed Thunderbird for 6 months but discarded it), and OneNote (which is free to everyone under every supported OS, including Android and Windows). - My desktop PC is not going with me on drives so none of the navigation apps are applicable on it: Google Maps, Here WeGo, Waze, Gas Guru, ParKING. I don't need Android nav apps on my desktop PC where I can use a web browser to access the more robust web interface to those services. For example, I cannot report in the Android Google Maps app via feedback an error or correction in a proposed route by Google Maps but I can using a web browser on my desktop PC. - I don't need any of the Android apps for shopping (Walmart, Target, Home Depot, Menards, Cub, eBay, Amazon, Newegg) since using the web browser on a desktop PC gives me all the functions of their web sites instead of some limited subset of features through their Android apps. - While the Adobe Reader app is on my phone, I wouldn't bother using an Android emulator to run that on my desktop PC since there is a desktop PC version of that program. In addition, I use PDF-Xchange Editor on my desktop PC. - I don't need a Speedtest app on my desktop PC where the web browser is a better interface to their site. - I have the Droid Optimizer app on my phone but it inapplicable on any OS other than Android. Under other [desktop] OSes, I can actually exit a program to have it actually and immediately unload from system memory, not linger around in limbo awaiting another app squeezing it out of memory. - I have an Amcrest app for an IP camera on the phone but the web interface on a desktop PC provides far more features than does their Android app. I could run wifi dialers on my desktop PC to make and receive calls using my desktop PC but I don't have the need. While I have Skype on the phone, I don't bother with it on my desktop PC. Otherwise, I find Android apps to be poor cousins of far more robust software I can use on the desktop PC under Windows. Sorry, I don't waste my time on inane games designed to addict boobs with endorphin stimulation, like Candy Crush. Personally I cannot see the draw to those stupid games; however, I also find slot machines at the casinos and the whole environ there to be visually and audibly irritating, not pleasure stimulating. Instead of luring me in, they make me want to get out. I see no point in installing an Android emulator to run [more slowly than on native hardware] an Android app (NewPipe) to supplant using a web browser on my desktop PC to use YouTube. Maybe there are Android apps for which there is no Windows counterpart to run on a desktop PC but I haven't run across any of those that interest me. If I'm using a desktop PC, I want more robust features and functionality than found in Android apps, or use Windows software designed for that OS rather than trying to intercede an emulator for lesser functionality in an app coded for a different OS. Just what do you get in the NewPipe app for Android that isn't usable through a richer desktop web browser running on a desktop PC to use the Youtube site? In my case, as I said in the OP, the only Android app I care to run on Windows is New Pipe because it has functionality that isn't known to be available on Windows in a single executable. https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe Bluestacks is one choice already mentioned by me in my prior reply (snipped in the quoted content in your reply to my reply). Another that comes to mind is the Android SDK that includes an emulator. It's part of Android Studio used by developers to use their Windows hosts to do Android programming plus it allows testing under different Android scenarios. Since you aren't doing programming but just want to run an Android app, it's likely an emulator bundled in a programming IDE is overkill for your needs so I didn't suggest it before. See https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html. Another is to use an image of the Android OS ran as a guest OS inside of a virtual machine. Fox already mentioned that solution. Now it's up to *YOU* to decide which environ under which to run an Android app that really has no use on a desktop PC. There is better software for PCs designed to run natively on that hardware+OS platform than to emulate Android apps on an alien platform. For your example of NewPipe, I don't see it is better to emulate it on a PC versus software meant to run under an OS on the PC. |
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