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  #31  
Old January 8th 10, 03:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Oreally
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Default XP Search Problem

But why should a third party search program like Ransack have no problem
searching the Backup Disc and do it in a matter of seconds, if there is a
corrupt sector of the drive?

Oreally



"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
As "Nil" pointed out - have you tried to follow his advice and run CHKDSK
/F from the Command Prompt, on your "D:" drive?

A PC "freezing" in the middle of a disk I/O operation can be symptomatic
of data corruption on the drive.

Quite often hard-disk data corruption can be caused by many different
things and doesn't have to mean that your drive has nearly died.

But the result can be that if Windows cannot read a section of a drive, it
will constantly go over and over the same spot trying to read it, causing
a "lock-up".

The solution, if this is the case, is as simple as running CHKDSK /F D:
from a Command Prompt window (if files on the D: drive are in use, you may
have to press 'Y ' in answer to the question - Do you want chkdsk to run
at next boot? - then, when you next reboot, chkdsk will run then).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"OREALLY" wrote in message
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Apparently the problem is specific to the Backup 'D' drive. It takes
forever to search and seems to be repeating search of the files and
folders. This does not happen in the main 'C' drive search. It's been
scanning for almost 2 hours looking for wav files. There is about 200GB
worth of info on the 500GB drive.

Still searching.....if I stop the search...computer freezes up.

Ransack finds about 600 wav files on this drive in a few minutes.....so
what's with XP?



"Nil" wrote in message
...
On 07 Jan 2010, "OREALLY" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

Whenever I STOP a search while it is searching the computer
freezes up and I have to go to task manager to end the search. Any
reason or repair for this?

Maybe there is some file system corruption that Search is choking on.
It might be a good idea to run CHKDSK... but better back up your data
and system first, in case it decides to repair your disk into an
unbootable condition.



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  #32  
Old January 8th 10, 07:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Nil[_2_]
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Default XP Search Problem

On 07 Jan 2010, "OREALLY" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

But why should a third party search program like Ransack have no
problem searching the Backup Disc and do it in a matter of
seconds, if there is a corrupt sector of the drive?


It's worth checking, regardless of the reason. If you have disk or file
system corruption, you want it fixed before things go completely tits-
up.
  #33  
Old January 8th 10, 07:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Nil[_2_]
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Default XP Search Problem

On 07 Jan 2010, "OREALLY" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

But why should a third party search program like Ransack have no
problem searching the Backup Disc and do it in a matter of
seconds, if there is a corrupt sector of the drive?


It's worth checking, regardless of the reason. If you have disk or file
system corruption, you want it fixed before things go completely tits-
up.
  #34  
Old January 8th 10, 07:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Nil[_2_]
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Default XP Search Problem

On 07 Jan 2010, "OREALLY" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

what???????


Ever heard of "google"?

"Leonard Grey" wrote in message
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Any help from a web search? Use...

windows xp search is slow

...as your search term.

  #35  
Old January 8th 10, 07:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Nil[_2_]
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Default XP Search Problem

On 07 Jan 2010, "OREALLY" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

what???????


Ever heard of "google"?

"Leonard Grey" wrote in message
...
Any help from a web search? Use...

windows xp search is slow

...as your search term.

  #36  
Old January 8th 10, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Default XP Search Problem

You could be right there - I will admit a strong possibility that I am wrong about
that.

On reflection, I was thinking of read-only media such as a CD-ROM (which I absolutely
know for a fact has that effect because it was the subject of an exhaustive thread a
while back in "xp.general" before you start on me for saying that).

At least I can admit when I'm wrong.

But I wouldn't discount that some type of data corruption could result in a similar
effect.

Perhaps someone who knows absolutely every bloody thing about everything would.

Notwithstanding, it is still good advice that [chkdsk /f] be run on a drive that is
behaving errantly.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)

  #37  
Old January 8th 10, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Default XP Search Problem

You could be right there - I will admit a strong possibility that I am wrong about
that.

On reflection, I was thinking of read-only media such as a CD-ROM (which I absolutely
know for a fact has that effect because it was the subject of an exhaustive thread a
while back in "xp.general" before you start on me for saying that).

At least I can admit when I'm wrong.

But I wouldn't discount that some type of data corruption could result in a similar
effect.

Perhaps someone who knows absolutely every bloody thing about everything would.

Notwithstanding, it is still good advice that [chkdsk /f] be run on a drive that is
behaving errantly.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)

  #38  
Old January 8th 10, 10:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Default XP Search Problem

"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have no problem "



I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over searching
all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results that are being
searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


  #39  
Old January 8th 10, 10:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Default XP Search Problem


"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have no problem "



I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over searching
all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results that are being
searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


  #40  
Old January 9th 10, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Oreally
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Default XP Search Problem

Tried the search in Safe Mode........same problem when stopping search on
backup Seagate Drive...freezes up computer. Tried a CHKDISC in Safe Mode
also. It stalls out at the end of Phase 4....just sits there for hours!
There is a folder 'Acronis Image' with 90 GB of data in that backup drive.
I'm wondering if that has something to do with it?

Oreally

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have no
problem "



I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over
searching all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results that
are being searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


  #41  
Old January 9th 10, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Oreally
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Posts: 211
Default XP Search Problem

Tried the search in Safe Mode........same problem when stopping search on
backup Seagate Drive...freezes up computer. Tried a CHKDISC in Safe Mode
also. It stalls out at the end of Phase 4....just sits there for hours!
There is a folder 'Acronis Image' with 90 GB of data in that backup drive.
I'm wondering if that has something to do with it?

Oreally

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have no
problem "



I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over
searching all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results that
are being searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


  #42  
Old January 9th 10, 01:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Default XP Search Problem

That does sound like severe data corruption that could indicate a damaged HD.

You say that this happens on your [D:] drive?

Is the [D:] drive a second [physical] hard-drive, or simply a different partition on
a single HD?*


*(If you have difficulty in knowing which - type the following into the "Run" box on
the Start Menu :

c:\windows\system32\diskmgmt.msc

...and locate the shaded area that represents your [D:] drive.

You can then see from this whether it is on the same physical disk as your system
[C:] drive or not).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
Tried the search in Safe Mode........same problem when stopping search on backup
Seagate Drive...freezes up computer. Tried a CHKDISC in Safe Mode also. It stalls
out at the end of Phase 4....just sits there for hours! There is a folder 'Acronis
Image' with 90 GB of data in that backup drive. I'm wondering if that has something
to do with it?

Oreally

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have no problem
"



I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over searching
all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results that are
being searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)



  #43  
Old January 9th 10, 01:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Posts: 1,995
Default XP Search Problem

That does sound like severe data corruption that could indicate a damaged HD.

You say that this happens on your [D:] drive?

Is the [D:] drive a second [physical] hard-drive, or simply a different partition on
a single HD?*


*(If you have difficulty in knowing which - type the following into the "Run" box on
the Start Menu :

c:\windows\system32\diskmgmt.msc

...and locate the shaded area that represents your [D:] drive.

You can then see from this whether it is on the same physical disk as your system
[C:] drive or not).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
Tried the search in Safe Mode........same problem when stopping search on backup
Seagate Drive...freezes up computer. Tried a CHKDISC in Safe Mode also. It stalls
out at the end of Phase 4....just sits there for hours! There is a folder 'Acronis
Image' with 90 GB of data in that backup drive. I'm wondering if that has something
to do with it?

Oreally

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have no problem
"



I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over searching
all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results that are
being searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)



  #44  
Old January 9th 10, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Oreally
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Posts: 211
Default XP Search Problem

It's a separate external drive (actually it's the 'K' Drive on my
system)...connected via USB 2.0




"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
That does sound like severe data corruption that could indicate a damaged
HD.

You say that this happens on your [D:] drive?

Is the [D:] drive a second [physical] hard-drive, or simply a different
partition on a single HD?*


*(If you have difficulty in knowing which - type the following into the
"Run" box on the Start Menu :

c:\windows\system32\diskmgmt.msc

..and locate the shaded area that represents your [D:] drive.

You can then see from this whether it is on the same physical disk as your
system [C:] drive or not).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
Tried the search in Safe Mode........same problem when stopping search on
backup Seagate Drive...freezes up computer. Tried a CHKDISC in Safe Mode
also. It stalls out at the end of Phase 4....just sits there for hours!
There is a folder 'Acronis Image' with 90 GB of data in that backup
drive. I'm wondering if that has something to do with it?

Oreally

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have
no problem "


I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over
searching all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results
that are being searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)



  #45  
Old January 9th 10, 02:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Oreally
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Posts: 211
Default XP Search Problem

It's a separate external drive (actually it's the 'K' Drive on my
system)...connected via USB 2.0




"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
That does sound like severe data corruption that could indicate a damaged
HD.

You say that this happens on your [D:] drive?

Is the [D:] drive a second [physical] hard-drive, or simply a different
partition on a single HD?*


*(If you have difficulty in knowing which - type the following into the
"Run" box on the Start Menu :

c:\windows\system32\diskmgmt.msc

..and locate the shaded area that represents your [D:] drive.

You can then see from this whether it is on the same physical disk as your
system [C:] drive or not).

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
Tried the search in Safe Mode........same problem when stopping search on
backup Seagate Drive...freezes up computer. Tried a CHKDISC in Safe Mode
also. It stalls out at the end of Phase 4....just sits there for hours!
There is a folder 'Acronis Image' with 90 GB of data in that backup
drive. I'm wondering if that has something to do with it?

Oreally

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
"OREALLY" wrote in message
...
clipped "why should a third party search program like Ransack have
no problem "


I don't know for sure - just a thought...

Some search utils use a database. i.e. they take their pretty time over
searching all files on all drives, and then caching the results.

Then, when you "perform" the search it's actually the cached results
that are being searched - not the drives themselves.

This may not be it in your case though, but it is a possibility...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)



 




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