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Old January 14th 18, 03:30 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jess Fertudei
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

Hi
Win7 Home Premium or whatever it's called.

When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.
The latter is how it worked in XP the former makes working with
multiple images impossible.
What do I have to do to make subsequent files use the already open
instance of an application?

thanks
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Old January 14th 18, 03:55 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

Jess Fertudei wrote:

Hi
Win7 Home Premium or whatever it's called.

When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.
The latter is how it worked in XP the former makes working with
multiple images impossible.
What do I have to do to make subsequent files use the already open
instance of an application?

thanks


The handler for a filetype dictates how it will manage its windows for
multiple file opens. Look in PSP for an option regarding multiple
windows.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pain...iple%20windows

From that online search, looks like this is a long-time screwup in PSP
where its installer does not add the /DDE command line switch to the
registry entry where PSP is designated as the filetype handler (for
whatever are those filetypes you are double-clicking in Windows
Explorer). Most users figured out how to get the /DDE switch added by
using the GUI wizards in Windows where some just decided to edit the
registry entry for the filetype handler.

I don't use PSP so there would be no registry entries for filetype
handlers for me to look at to see how the 'Open' directive was defined
within them (i.e., what command line was defined to handle the Open
action on a filetype, like "program %1 /dde").
  #3  
Old January 14th 18, 03:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Big Al[_5_]
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

On 01/13/2018 09:55 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Jess Fertudei wrote:

Hi
Win7 Home Premium or whatever it's called.

When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.
The latter is how it worked in XP the former makes working with
multiple images impossible.
What do I have to do to make subsequent files use the already open
instance of an application?

thanks


The handler for a filetype dictates how it will manage its windows for
multiple file opens. Look in PSP for an option regarding multiple
windows.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pain...iple%20windows

From that online search, looks like this is a long-time screwup in PSP
where its installer does not add the /DDE command line switch to the
registry entry where PSP is designated as the filetype handler (for
whatever are those filetypes you are double-clicking in Windows
Explorer). Most users figured out how to get the /DDE switch added by
using the GUI wizards in Windows where some just decided to edit the
registry entry for the filetype handler.

I don't use PSP so there would be no registry entries for filetype
handlers for me to look at to see how the 'Open' directive was defined
within them (i.e., what command line was defined to handle the Open
action on a filetype, like "program %1 /dde").

Look at these two programs:
http://defaultprogramseditor.com/
and
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/file_types_manager.html

I've used them both (each has it's good points) to change launching of
programs. I think the default programs editor is the one I'm thinking
of that does just as VanguardLH spoke about, yet GUI.

Between them I like to have a difference between open and edit for
things like png files. Open would launch a viewer but edit would
launch photoshop. One of them allowed you to export the registry entry
so you could keep them in case of a reload, a nice feature.
  #4  
Old January 14th 18, 03:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Big Al[_5_]
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

On 01/14/2018 09:08 AM, Big Al wrote:
On 01/13/2018 09:55 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Jess Fertudei wrote:

Hi
Win7 Home Premium or whatever it's called.

When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.
The latter is how it worked in XP the former makes working with
multiple images impossible.
What do I have to do to make subsequent files use the already open
instance of an application?

thanks


The handler for a filetype dictates how it will manage its windows for
multiple file opens.Â* Look in PSP for an option regarding multiple
windows.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pain...iple%20windows

Â*From that online search, looks like this is a long-time screwup in PSP
where its installer does not add the /DDE command line switch to the
registry entry where PSP is designated as the filetype handler (for
whatever are those filetypes you are double-clicking in Windows
Explorer).Â* Most users figured out how to get the /DDE switch added by
using the GUI wizards in Windows where some just decided to edit the
registry entry for the filetype handler.

I don't use PSP so there would be no registry entries for filetype
handlers for me to look at to see how the 'Open' directive was defined
within them (i.e., what command line was defined to handle the Open
action on a filetype, like "program %1 /dde").

Look at these two programs:
http://defaultprogramseditor.com/
and
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/file_types_manager.html

I've used them both (each has it's good points) to change launching of
programs.Â* I think the default programs editor is the one I'm thinking
of that does just as VanguardLH spoke about, yet GUI.

Between them I like to have a difference between open and edit for
things like png files.Â*Â* Open would launch a viewer but edit would
launch photoshop.Â*Â* One of them allowed you to export the registry entry
so you could keep them in case of a reload, a nice feature.

Of course you know have to know how and what to edit in the launch
command to get it working if that's the fix.

  #5  
Old January 14th 18, 04:13 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

"Jess Fertudei" wrote

|
| When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
| Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
| instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.

I have PSP 5 and 16. I don't see that option
in either one. If I open 2 files I get the same thing
you see: 2 PSPs.

But why are you double-clicking the 2nd file in
the first place? Just drag-drop it into the PSP
window. If you don't like that then browse for
it via File - Open.

I actually like to have right-click menus. I put
Open with PSP on the right click and set IrfanView
as default for all image types. That way I have
a small, quick viewer when I want to see an
image and it's still easy to open it in PSP.

If you're comfortable with the Registry you
can deduce the format for custom context
menus from this:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\Open With PSP]
@="Open with PSP"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\Open With PSP\Command]
@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Paint Shop Pro 5\\psp.exe\" \"%1\""

* applies to all files. *\shell\ exists already
by default. The value of the next step
down is what you'll see on the context menu.
The default value in the Command key is
the command line to send to the program.
(Without the extra backslashes.)

"C:\Program Files\Paint Shop Pro 5\psp.exe" "%1"

You can do that for any program.... But once
you have the program open, nearly all will accept
a drag/dropped file in the main window.


  #6  
Old January 15th 18, 12:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jess Fertudei
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

Big Al wrote on 1/14/2018 :
On 01/14/2018 09:08 AM, Big Al wrote:
On 01/13/2018 09:55 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Jess Fertudei wrote:

Hi
Win7 Home Premium or whatever it's called.

When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.
The latter is how it worked in XP the former makes working with
multiple images impossible.
What do I have to do to make subsequent files use the already open
instance of an application?

thanks

The handler for a filetype dictates how it will manage its windows for
multiple file opens.* Look in PSP for an option regarding multiple
windows.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pain...iple%20windows

*From that online search, looks like this is a long-time screwup in PSP
where its installer does not add the /DDE command line switch to the
registry entry where PSP is designated as the filetype handler (for
whatever are those filetypes you are double-clicking in Windows
Explorer).* Most users figured out how to get the /DDE switch added by
using the GUI wizards in Windows where some just decided to edit the
registry entry for the filetype handler.

I don't use PSP so there would be no registry entries for filetype
handlers for me to look at to see how the 'Open' directive was defined
within them (i.e., what command line was defined to handle the Open
action on a filetype, like "program %1 /dde").

Look at these two programs:
http://defaultprogramseditor.com/
and
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/file_types_manager.html

I've used them both (each has it's good points) to change launching of
programs.* I think the default programs editor is the one I'm thinking of
that does just as VanguardLH spoke about, yet GUI.

Between them I like to have a difference between open and edit for things
like png files.** Open would launch a viewer but edit would launch
photoshop.** One of them allowed you to export the registry entry so you
could keep them in case of a reload, a nice feature.

Of course you know have to know how and what to edit in the launch command to
get it working if that's the fix.



Thanks
  #7  
Old January 15th 18, 12:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jess Fertudei
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Posts: 42
Default Files open programs not reuse windows

VanguardLH wrote on 1/13/2018 :
Jess Fertudei wrote:

Hi
Win7 Home Premium or whatever it's called.

When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.
The latter is how it worked in XP the former makes working with
multiple images impossible.
What do I have to do to make subsequent files use the already open
instance of an application?

thanks


The handler for a filetype dictates how it will manage its windows for
multiple file opens. Look in PSP for an option regarding multiple
windows.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pain...iple%20windows

From that online search, looks like this is a long-time screwup in PSP
where its installer does not add the /DDE command line switch to the
registry entry where PSP is designated as the filetype handler (for
whatever are those filetypes you are double-clicking in Windows
Explorer). Most users figured out how to get the /DDE switch added by
using the GUI wizards in Windows where some just decided to edit the
registry entry for the filetype handler.

I don't use PSP so there would be no registry entries for filetype
handlers for me to look at to see how the 'Open' directive was defined
within them (i.e., what command line was defined to handle the Open
action on a filetype, like "program %1 /dde").



Thanks.
I had noticed the DDE stuff before but never really saw a good answer
on how to fix it... most of the scenarios never really matched what I
found when I tried it. Was hoping someone would have another take on
how to fix it without farting with the registry directly.
  #8  
Old January 15th 18, 12:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jess Fertudei
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

Mayayana wrote on 1/14/2018 :
"Jess Fertudei" wrote


When I open a folder of jpegs for editing, clicking one opens Paint
Shop Pro and displays the image. Clicking on another file opens another
instance of PSP rather than a new image in the already open instance.


I have PSP 5 and 16. I don't see that option
in either one. If I open 2 files I get the same thing
you see: 2 PSPs.

But why are you double-clicking the 2nd file in
the first place? Just drag-drop it into the PSP
window. If you don't like that then browse for
it via File - Open.

I actually like to have right-click menus. I put
Open with PSP on the right click and set IrfanView
as default for all image types. That way I have
a small, quick viewer when I want to see an
image and it's still easy to open it in PSP.

If you're comfortable with the Registry you
can deduce the format for custom context
menus from this:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\Open With PSP]
@="Open with PSP"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\Open With PSP\Command]
@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Paint Shop Pro 5\\psp.exe\" \"%1\""

* applies to all files. *\shell\ exists already
by default. The value of the next step
down is what you'll see on the context menu.
The default value in the Command key is
the command line to send to the program.
(Without the extra backslashes.)

"C:\Program Files\Paint Shop Pro 5\psp.exe" "%1"

You can do that for any program.... But once
you have the program open, nearly all will accept
a drag/dropped file in the main window.



Thanks.

Been using PSP since 5 and loved my 7. In fact, the reason I held onto
XP for so long was that I have a bazillion plugins that I'll not locate
again. Have 16 but hate it... just seems Corel watered it down in spite
of making it look all glitzy. I do a lot of photo editing and
manipulating and know that my way of bouncing around from folder to
folder telling it to open this and that simultaneous wouldnt make sense
to folks who dont look for 'parts' for compilations and such, but it's
how I've learned to flow. Oh well... looks like it's 16 until I get on
to some other app. Don't really want to learn any new stuff any more
but if I don't have the plugins anyhow... I guess I may as well start
over.

Really didn't want to get into the registry. Getting old and tired of
farting around with this stuff. XP and the setup I had just worked but,
oh, well.
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Old January 16th 18, 10:56 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Files open programs not reuse windows

In message , Big Al
writes:
[]
Look at these two programs:
http://defaultprogramseditor.com/
and
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/file_types_manager.html


Thanks for those.

I've used them both (each has it's good points) to change launching of
programs. I think the default programs editor is the one I'm thinking
of that does just as VanguardLH spoke about, yet GUI.

Between them I like to have a difference between open and edit for
things like png files. Open would launch a viewer but edit would

(Which one do you use?)
launch photoshop. One of them allowed you to export the registry
entry so you could keep them in case of a reload, a nice feature.

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The main and the most glorious achievement of television is that it is killing
the art of conversation. If we think of the type of conversation television is
helping to kill, our gratitude must be undying. (George Mikes, "How to be
Inimitable" [1960].)
 




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