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  #1  
Old January 13th 18, 07:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Default New web site printing problem

Site put a big promo window repeatedly on my printout, though it didn't
show on the Firefox display or the Print Preview display. Here's the site

https://draxe.com/effective-all-natu...for-arthritis/

II don't know whether it will do the same to your printout as it did to me.

In any event, is there a way to tell on a site if this is going to happen
without wasting a bunch of paper and ink?

TIA


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Old January 13th 18, 08:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Default New web site printing problem

KenK wrote:
Site put a big promo window repeatedly on my printout, though it didn't
show on the Firefox display or the Print Preview display. Here's the site

https://draxe.com/effective-all-natu...for-arthritis/

II don't know whether it will do the same to your printout as it did to me.

In any event, is there a way to tell on a site if this is going to happen
without wasting a bunch of paper and ink?

TIA


I often print web pages to PDF before printing to paper.

  #3  
Old January 13th 18, 08:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default New web site printing problem

KenK wrote:
Site put a big promo window repeatedly on my printout, though it didn't
show on the Firefox display or the Print Preview display. Here's the site

https://draxe.com/effective-all-natu...for-arthritis/

II don't know whether it will do the same to your printout as it did to me.

In any event, is there a way to tell on a site if this is going to happen
without wasting a bunch of paper and ink?

TIA


On a couple of browsers here, that page puts up a "Notifications"
prompt, as if inviting the user to allow popups ?

The other kind of dialog like that is the "Location" prompt, which
asks permission to send info about the city you're in, to the web
site. I've seen quite a few of those.

I suspect if you block "Notifications", when the prompt first
appears, that might affect the result.

The only annoyance I get, is a small "Lets Be Friends" bar on
the bottom of the document (last page of 13 sheets of 8.5x11.

*******

I didn't print it, I "printed to PDF" on my Chrome-clone browser SRWare Iron.

My regular browser, I have a "print to Postscript" driver set up
for an HP 750C. That allows me to do 36" wide virtual prints, up
to 108" long. You can also get that using the Microsoft
Universal Printer Driver, but that flavor is more annoying
to set up. In the case of PostScript, I've even been known to
use my copy of Tailor (PostScript Editor) to remove foreground
(interfering) graphics from postscript print files.

The SRWare print dialog has a "simplify page" option, and perhaps
that strikes the header. I doubt it would kill a notification
that happened to be getting printed.

So my best guess at the moment, is it has something to do
with "Notifications". And there should be a dialog for you
to reject that.

*******

As for arthritis, there are at least two kinds. Rheumatoid
and osteo. Rheumatoid is an autoimmune disease, and not something
you fix with "bacon fat" :-) On rheumatoid, your body is actively
attacking and destroying the joints. I don't think a simple
diet fixes that one. If you already have a diagnosis and know
for certain what it is, then great. Our doctors here, hardly
ever do diagnostic procedures, they just look at you and
"pronounce" the illness by mental telepathy. Our drug store
pharmacists on the other hand, seem to be better at identifying
the root cause, than even our so-called "specialists".

https://www.healthline.com/health/wh...mune-arthritis

https://www.healthline.com/health/osteoarthritis

I tested printing the second one of those, which was full of
side-bar adverts as well as an AdChoice, as well as a
decoration bar near the top, and the print was clean.
There was also no "notification" prompt for that last one.

Change browsers, print to file, see if you can edit
the print if all else fails.

Good luck,
Paul
  #4  
Old January 15th 18, 06:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Posts: 444
Default New web site printing problem

Paul wrote in news
KenK wrote:
Site put a big promo window repeatedly on my printout, though it
didn't show on the Firefox display or the Print Preview display.
Here's the site

https://draxe.com/effective-all-natu...for-arthritis/

II don't know whether it will do the same to your printout as it did
to me.

In any event, is there a way to tell on a site if this is going to
happen without wasting a bunch of paper and ink?

TIA


On a couple of browsers here, that page puts up a "Notifications"
prompt, as if inviting the user to allow popups ?

The other kind of dialog like that is the "Location" prompt, which
asks permission to send info about the city you're in, to the web
site. I've seen quite a few of those.

I suspect if you block "Notifications", when the prompt first
appears, that might affect the result.

The only annoyance I get, is a small "Lets Be Friends" bar on
the bottom of the document (last page of 13 sheets of 8.5x11.

*******

I didn't print it, I "printed to PDF" on my Chrome-clone browser
SRWare Iron.

My regular browser, I have a "print to Postscript" driver set up
for an HP 750C. That allows me to do 36" wide virtual prints, up
to 108" long. You can also get that using the Microsoft
Universal Printer Driver, but that flavor is more annoying
to set up. In the case of PostScript, I've even been known to
use my copy of Tailor (PostScript Editor) to remove foreground
(interfering) graphics from postscript print files.

The SRWare print dialog has a "simplify page" option, and perhaps
that strikes the header. I doubt it would kill a notification
that happened to be getting printed.

So my best guess at the moment, is it has something to do
with "Notifications". And there should be a dialog for you
to reject that.


I got a big ad for a book right in the middle of each page. Wonder why it
only appeared on my system? Maybe because I use Firefox? Anyway, will
study your instructions on printing to PDF in the future.


*******

As for arthritis, there are at least two kinds. Rheumatoid
and osteo. Rheumatoid is an autoimmune disease, and not something
you fix with "bacon fat" :-) On rheumatoid, your body is actively
attacking and destroying the joints. I don't think a simple
diet fixes that one. If you already have a diagnosis and know
for certain what it is, then great. Our doctors here, hardly
ever do diagnostic procedures, they just look at you and
"pronounce" the illness by mental telepathy. Our drug store
pharmacists on the other hand, seem to be better at identifying
the root cause, than even our so-called "specialists".


I'm pretty sure I have osteoarthritis. Trying to find OTC stuff for help.
Walmart Equate athritis pain meds help but I don't like taking them very
often. I suspect they're not good for you as a regular diet. In this
printout that I could read I found some herbs (curcumin and ginger) that
can help that are in pills I ordered from Amazon. Who knows? They might
halp.

https://www.healthline.com/health/wh...mune-arthritis

https://www.healthline.com/health/osteoarthritis

I tested printing the second one of those, which was full of
side-bar adverts as well as an AdChoice, as well as a
decoration bar near the top, and the print was clean.
There was also no "notification" prompt for that last one.

Change browsers, print to file, see if you can edit
the print if all else fails.

Good luck,
Paul




--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.






  #5  
Old January 15th 18, 10:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default New web site printing problem

KenK wrote:


I'm pretty sure I have osteoarthritis. Trying to find OTC stuff for help.
Walmart Equate athritis pain meds help but I don't like taking them very
often. I suspect they're not good for you as a regular diet. In this
printout that I could read I found some herbs (curcumin and ginger) that
can help that are in pills I ordered from Amazon. Who knows? They might
halp.


https://www.drweil.com/vitamins-supp.../herbs/ginger/

Herb /drug interactions:

Ginger may act as a blood thinner, so use caution if you are
currently using anticoagulants.

curcumin (Tumeric)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12676044

Curcuminoids are components of tumeric, which include mainly curcumin
(diferuloyl methane), demethoxycurcumin, and bisdemethoxycurcmin.

CONCLUSIONS:

Curcumin has been demonstrated to be safe in six human trials and has
demonstrated anti-inflammatory activity. It may exert its
anti-inflammatory activity by inhibition of a number of different
molecules that play a role in inflammation.

*******

In a pharmaceutical index, each drug has a "contraindications" section.
Some drugs, this covers two pages of pretty serious side effects,
requiring constant monitoring. When a doctor would prescribe stuff,
we would use the index at home to say "no thanks" when looking
a few of them up. Reading some of those, we would say
"what was the doctor thinking???".

Over the counter materials like the ones you seek, are generally
safe, or they'd have been removed from the store by now. But if
you dig deep enough, there are contraindications for those too.
It's a matter of finding someone who will admit to it. I could
probably find a hundred web pages extolling ginger root, before
finding one that would tell me there's a possible interaction
I should watch.

Paul
  #6  
Old January 16th 18, 05:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Posts: 444
Default New web site printing problem

Paul wrote in news
KenK wrote:


I'm pretty sure I have osteoarthritis. Trying to find OTC stuff for
help. Walmart Equate athritis pain meds help but I don't like taking
them very often. I suspect they're not good for you as a regular
diet. In this printout that I could read I found some herbs (curcumin
and ginger) that can help that are in pills I ordered from Amazon.
Who knows? They might halp.


https://www.drweil.com/vitamins-supp.../herbs/ginger/

Herb /drug interactions:

Ginger may act as a blood thinner, so use caution if you are
currently using anticoagulants.

curcumin (Tumeric)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12676044

Curcuminoids are components of tumeric, which include mainly
curcumin (diferuloyl methane), demethoxycurcumin, and
bisdemethoxycurcmin.

CONCLUSIONS:

Curcumin has been demonstrated to be safe in six human trials and
has demonstrated anti-inflammatory activity. It may exert its
anti-inflammatory activity by inhibition of a number of different
molecules that play a role in inflammation.

*******

In a pharmaceutical index, each drug has a "contraindications"
section. Some drugs, this covers two pages of pretty serious side
effects, requiring constant monitoring. When a doctor would prescribe
stuff, we would use the index at home to say "no thanks" when looking
a few of them up. Reading some of those, we would say
"what was the doctor thinking???".

Over the counter materials like the ones you seek, are generally
safe, or they'd have been removed from the store by now. But if
you dig deep enough, there are contraindications for those too.
It's a matter of finding someone who will admit to it. I could
probably find a hundred web pages extolling ginger root, before
finding one that would tell me there's a possible interaction
I should watch.

Paul


Thank you. Here's hoping. I'll supposedly be getting them today so I'll
soon find out. Probably a week or so before any indications.



--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.






  #7  
Old January 16th 18, 07:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Posts: 444
Default New web site printing problem

Paul wrote in news
KenK wrote:
Site put a big promo window repeatedly on my printout, though it
didn't show on the Firefox display or the Print Preview display.
Here's the site

https://draxe.com/effective-all-natu...for-arthritis/

II don't know whether it will do the same to your printout as it did
to me.

In any event, is there a way to tell on a site if this is going to
happen without wasting a bunch of paper and ink?

TIA


On a couple of browsers here, that page puts up a "Notifications"
prompt, as if inviting the user to allow popups ?

The other kind of dialog like that is the "Location" prompt, which
asks permission to send info about the city you're in, to the web
site. I've seen quite a few of those.

I suspect if you block "Notifications", when the prompt first
appears, that might affect the result.

The only annoyance I get, is a small "Lets Be Friends" bar on
the bottom of the document (last page of 13 sheets of 8.5x11.

*******

I didn't print it, I "printed to PDF" on my Chrome-clone browser
SRWare Iron.

My regular browser, I have a "print to Postscript" driver set up
for an HP 750C. That allows me to do 36" wide virtual prints, up
to 108" long. You can also get that using the Microsoft
Universal Printer Driver, but that flavor is more annoying
to set up. In the case of PostScript, I've even been known to
use my copy of Tailor (PostScript Editor) to remove foreground
(interfering) graphics from postscript print files.

The SRWare print dialog has a "simplify page" option, and perhaps
that strikes the header. I doubt it would kill a notification
that happened to be getting printed.

So my best guess at the moment, is it has something to do
with "Notifications". And there should be a dialog for you
to reject that.


I looked at ToolsOptions and under Content found Notifications. Only
option was turning them off until Firefox restarted. Rather unuseful.
Guess I will have to get on Google tomorrow. Also to find out how to
print from Firefox to PDF.

*******

As for arthritis, there are at least two kinds. Rheumatoid
and osteo. Rheumatoid is an autoimmune disease, and not something
you fix with "bacon fat" :-) On rheumatoid, your body is actively
attacking and destroying the joints. I don't think a simple
diet fixes that one. If you already have a diagnosis and know
for certain what it is, then great. Our doctors here, hardly
ever do diagnostic procedures, they just look at you and
"pronounce" the illness by mental telepathy. Our drug store
pharmacists on the other hand, seem to be better at identifying
the root cause, than even our so-called "specialists".

https://www.healthline.com/health/wh...mune-arthritis

https://www.healthline.com/health/osteoarthritis

I tested printing the second one of those, which was full of
side-bar adverts as well as an AdChoice, as well as a
decoration bar near the top, and the print was clean.
There was also no "notification" prompt for that last one.

Change browsers, print to file, see if you can edit
the print if all else fails.

Good luck,
Paul




--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.






  #8  
Old January 29th 18, 05:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default New web site printing problem

KenK wrote:

Site put a big promo window repeatedly on my printout, though it
didn't show on the Firefox display or the Print Preview display.
Here's the site

https://draxe.com/effective-all-natu...for-arthritis/

II don't know whether it will do the same to your printout as it did
to me.

In any event, is there a way to tell on a site if this is going to
happen without wasting a bunch of paper and ink?


In Google Chrome 63.0.3239.132 (and later updating to 64.0.3282.119) x64
desktop, no navbar banner appears in the preview when I select to print
the page. When I "print" to a .pdf file, there is no navbar banner in
the output.

In Firefox 58.0 x64 desktop, its Print preview show no navbar banner at
the top. When I "print" to a .pdf file, there is no navbar banner in
the output. I was going to suggest using Firefox's Reader View (since
its icon appears at the right side of the address bar when visiting that
page); however, the code in Firefox reports "Failed to load article from
page". So the code recognizes that it could reduce the content of the
page but the server refuses to deliver a reduced content copy of the
page.

I use the Bullzip PDF Printer program to give me an emulated printer
definition that outputs to .pdf files from any program that provides a
print function. There are LOTS of similar PDF printer tools:
PDFCreator, SumatraPDF, CutePDF, Foxit PDF, etc. I'd stay away from
NitroPDF as it was a pig on its disk and memory footprints (but it's
been a couple years since I last trialed it). Printing to a PDF file
eliminates wasting any ink and paper until you decide to print to a real
printer (either from within the web browser by picking a real printer or
by using the Print function inside whatever PDF reader you use).

A few years ago, both my HP and Canon printers had drivers that
installed ancilliary "preview" software. When a document got printed to
those printers, there was a config option to show a preview of the
document as it would get printed. Those printers got replaced with an
HP all-in-one printer. Alas, HP took away the preview option back
several versions in their drivers. I could go back to the old driver
that had the preview option but I would lose other functions. So I
decided to print to PDF to preview before committing to hardcopy.
GreenPrint (https://www.printgreener.com/) gives back what the printer
makers took away for a preview before print (*not* the preview shown by
programs which may not be accurate); however, GreenPrint costs $19
versus the multitude of PDF printer programs that are free, plus
GreenPrint works as a PDF printer itself so it makes no sense to pay for
it when the alternatives are free.

Note that use both uBlock Origin (with several DNSBLs selected but not
all) and uMatrix (to block, by default, off-domain scripts only, not
other content types from off-domain sources). So those might be
altering what Print gets to process although the navbar banner is
displayed when viewing the rendered page.

If the navbar banner had appeared in the output, I would call the Print
Edit WE extension (in either Google Chrome or Firefox) to select
elements of the page that I want to delete and then print the result.
While Print Edit lets you take away content from a page before printing
it, the Nimbus Screen Capture extension (also available in both Google
Chrome and Firefox) lets you decide what part of a page to capture and
then what to do with that captured portion.
 




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