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  #1  
Old March 12th 15, 05:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
RH Brenner
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I installed Thunderbird on W8. I also installed WindowsLiveMail. Neither
are to my liking. They're so foreign, I waste more time looking for what
I want then getting my email and replying to it. Is it possible to get
WindowsMail to work on W8 64-bit or is it even more complicated than it
was getting it working on W7?

I did a System Recovery on the Gateway LT with Vista 32-bit. A nice
clean install... but windowsMail wont work. I get every )(*&^%$ error
imaginable.
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Old March 12th 15, 05:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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RH Brenner wrote:
I installed Thunderbird on W8. I also installed WindowsLiveMail. Neither
are to my liking. They're so foreign, I waste more time looking for what
I want then getting my email and replying to it. Is it possible to get
WindowsMail to work on W8 64-bit or is it even more complicated than it
was getting it working on W7?

I did a System Recovery on the Gateway LT with Vista 32-bit. A nice
clean install... but windowsMail wont work. I get every )(*&^%$ error
imaginable.


By way of contrast, there are Clean Installs and
there are Repair/Upgrade Installs.

The latter type, preserve accounts and programs. If you
were attempting to clear a problem, the Registry is
largely preserved, so any problems will still be there.

A Clean Install, you'd need to define your account(s) again,
install programs again, and so on.

You should be able to tell from the symptoms, whether
any setup work was required again, as to what kind
of installation or restoration was done.

At one time, the OEM recovery was "nuclear" and
removed everything. Now, the OSes have more than one
option, and you have to understand the plus
and minus of each method.

Paul
  #3  
Old March 12th 15, 06:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Live[_3_]
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"RH Brenner" wrote...
I installed Thunderbird on W8. I also installed WindowsLiveMail. Neither
are to my liking. They're so foreign, I waste more time looking for what
I want then getting my email and replying to it. Is it possible to get
WindowsMail to work on W8 64-bit or is it even more complicated than it
was getting it working on W7?

It is simple to get WindowsMail to work on Win8, 8.1:
Rename "Windows Mail" to "Windows Mail 8"
Create new "Windows Mail" folder
Copy content of "Windows Mail" folder into new created "Windows Mail"
folder
Copy "msidcrl30.dll" into "Windows Mail" folder
Run "Windows Mail"
http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ws-8-a-10.html

Or you can install new Outlook Express:
http://runasxp.com/Thread-Outlook-Ex...nd-10-DOWNLOAD

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Old March 13th 15, 07:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
RH BREENER
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"Paul" wrote in message ...

RH Brenner wrote:
I installed Thunderbird on W8. I also installed WindowsLiveMail. Neither
are to my liking. They're so foreign, I waste more time looking for what I
want then getting my email and replying to it. Is it possible to get
WindowsMail to work on W8 64-bit or is it even more complicated than it
was getting it working on W7?

I did a System Recovery on the Gateway LT with Vista 32-bit. A nice clean
install... but windowsMail wont work. I get every )(*&^%$ error
imaginable.


By way of contrast, there are Clean Installs and
there are Repair/Upgrade Installs.

On the Gateway with WindowsMail I had no choice to do a Repair/Upgrade. I
did a system Recovery which returns the PC to what it was like new.


The latter type, preserve accounts and programs. If you
were attempting to clear a problem, the Registry is
largely preserved, so any problems will still be there.

I'm not afraid to work in the registry but would need to know which
(bad/old) keys are causing the problem before removing them.


A Clean Install, you'd need to define your account(s) again,
install programs again, and so on.

That what System Recovery did. It wiped the disk clean and installed the
uncorrupt copy of the OS from D: drive to C: drive.


You should be able to tell from the symptoms, whether
any setup work was required again, as to what kind
of installation or restoration was done.

It's totally different issues with WindowsMail now. When trying to send
mail I get all kinds of errors.


At one time, the OEM recovery was "nuclear" and
removed everything. Now, the OSes have more than one
option, and you have to understand the plus
and minus of each method.

This Vista Laptop goes back to 2008 and has a D: drive with a uncorrupt
copy Vista on it. The The choices are System Restore and System Recovery.
I chose System Recovery.




Paul

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Old March 13th 15, 07:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
RH BREENER
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"Live" wrote in message ...


"RH Brenner" wrote...
I installed Thunderbird on W8. I also installed WindowsLiveMail. Neither
are to my liking. They're so foreign, I waste more time looking for what
I want then getting my email and replying to it. Is it possible to get
WindowsMail to work on W8 64-bit or is it even more complicated than it
was getting it working on W7?


It is simple to get WindowsMail to work on Win8, 8.1:
Rename "Windows Mail" to "Windows Mail 8"
Create new "Windows Mail" folder
Copy content of "Windows Mail" folder into new created "Windows Mail"
folder
Copy "msidcrl30.dll" into "Windows Mail" folder
Run "Windows Mail"
http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ws-8-a-10.html

Or you can install new Outlook Express:
http://runasxp.com/Thread-Outlook-Ex...nd-10-DOWNLOAD

The copy of windows Mail I have came from a 32-bit PC and W8 is 64-bit. It
had no bugs. You've done this an it worked for you? I assume you put it
under Programs 86.

I'll check those sites out.

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Old March 13th 15, 10:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Live[_3_]
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"RH Breener" wrote...
WindowsMail still wont work after the SystemRecovery. I Googled but what
I found failed to work. Options/Advanced/ect. And looking I found the
Recovery did nothing! There are almost 19,000 KBs of stored messages in
WindowsMail that keep coming back and can't seem to be permanently
deleted. Also spellchecker no longer works. The Newsgroups work fine. Is
there some way I can delete WindowsMail and download a safe virus free
working copy?

Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3,
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command ft2mb19331361vdc', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

Uninstall WindowsMail and try Outlook Express.

  #7  
Old March 13th 15, 02:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Slimer
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Default Thunderbird on W8

On 2015-03-13 5:48 AM, Live wrote:

"RH Breener" wrote...
WindowsMail still wont work after the SystemRecovery. I Googled but
what I found failed to work. Options/Advanced/ect. And looking I found
the Recovery did nothing! There are almost 19,000 KBs of stored
messages in WindowsMail that keep coming back and can't seem to be
permanently deleted. Also spellchecker no longer works. The Newsgroups
work fine. Is there some way I can delete WindowsMail and download a
safe virus free working copy?

Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3,
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command ft2mb19331361vdc', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

Uninstall WindowsMail and try Outlook Express.


What terrible advice, especially since Outlook Express is not available
in 7.

If the messages keep coming back, it's because the person kept them on
their Hotmail account. If they want to delete them, it would require
logging onto the Gmail website and removing them from there. Then, if
they don't want to keep e-mails like that again, make sure to set it up
as POP3 so that the e-mails are downloaded onto the system and not
stored on the website at all. If IMAP is preferred, make sure to delete
the e-mails you no longer want and then empty the folders. However,
these settings indicate that the user had requested a POP3 connection
and never bothered to uncheck the "keep messages on server" option.

And no, there is NO virus in your e-mail program.

--
Slimer
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Encrypt.

- "Export-grade." Right. Not much of Winblows is "export grade"." -
chrisv, demonstrating that he has no idea what "export-grade" means
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accused advocates of "lying" about their kill-file usage." - chrisv,
accusing someone who in his killfile of lying about his killfile
- "For some time M$ mandated that IE be the only browser installed, and
that it appear right on the desktop. OEM's had no choice in the matter
- M$ insisted on control of the boot process." - chrisv, lying shamelessly
- "Too bloated for the 386? X ran happily on lesser machines." -
JEDIDIAH, lying shamelessly
- "PnP hardware worked in Linux like it did in WinDOS." - JEDIDIAH,
again lying shamelessly
- "Are you still a homophobe or have you finally come out of the
closet?" - Donald Miller, too dumb to know the difference between a
homophobe and a homosexual.
- "Idiot. That (referring to software Creative Labs provided with its
Sound Blaster line) was needed because the MSDOS driver was too dumb to
figure out the parameters on its own. That has absolutely nothing to do
with "software which essentually configured the card"" - Peter Köhlmann,
trying in vain to change the meaning of the word "configure."
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Old March 13th 15, 03:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Live[_3_]
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Default Thunderbird on W8


"Slimer" wrote...
On 2015-03-13 5:48 AM, Live wrote:

"RH Breener" wrote...
WindowsMail still wont work after the SystemRecovery. I Googled but
what I found failed to work. Options/Advanced/ect. And looking I found
the Recovery did nothing! There are almost 19,000 KBs of stored
messages in WindowsMail that keep coming back and can't seem to be
permanently deleted. Also spellchecker no longer works. The Newsgroups
work fine. Is there some way I can delete WindowsMail and download a
safe virus free working copy?

Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3,
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command ft2mb19331361vdc', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

Uninstall WindowsMail and try Outlook Express.


What terrible advice, especially since Outlook Express is not available
in 7.


It is available for Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10!
- See more at:
http://runasxp.com/Thread-Outlook-Ex...nd-10-DOWNLOAD

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Old March 14th 15, 07:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
RH Breener[_3_]
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Default Thunderbird on W8


"Slimer" wrote in message ...
On 2015-03-13 5:48 AM, Live wrote:

"RH Breener" wrote...
WindowsMail still wont work after the SystemRecovery. I Googled but
what I found failed to work. Options/Advanced/ect. And looking I found
the Recovery did nothing! There are almost 19,000 KBs of stored
messages in WindowsMail that keep coming back and can't seem to be
permanently deleted. Also spellchecker no longer works. The Newsgroups
work fine. Is there some way I can delete WindowsMail and download a
safe virus free working copy?

Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3,
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command ft2mb19331361vdc', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

Uninstall WindowsMail and try Outlook Express.


What terrible advice, especially since Outlook Express is not available in
7.

If the messages keep coming back, it's because the person kept them on
their Hotmail account. If they want to delete them, it would require
logging onto the Gmail website and removing them from there. Then, if they
don't want to keep e-mails like that again, make sure to set it up as POP3
so that the e-mails are downloaded onto the system and not stored on the
website at all. If IMAP is preferred, make sure to delete the e-mails you
no longer want and then empty the folders. However, these settings
indicate that the user had requested a POP3 connection and never bothered
to uncheck the "keep messages on server" option.

And no, there is NO virus in your e-mail program.


I always have the accounts checked to delete mail on the server (Google)
after 14 days.


 




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