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On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 07:33:59 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

..., so I knew you were a Nederlander in disguise.

Well, I am NOT a "Nederlander".
I live in Belgium, more specific in Flanders, where people speak Dutch.
In the other part of Belgium, Wallonië (which in English seems to be
Wallonia), people speak French. In some parts (for example in Brussels)
they speak both languages.

Sorry - I misinterpreted you before.

When you said you spoke Dutch and live in Belgium, I thought you meant
you are Dutch from Holland, since I think of the Belgian form of Dutch
as Flemish. I also think of the Belgian form of French as Walloon.

This is what I read: "my native language is Dutch (I'm living in
Belgium)".

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Sorry - I misinterpreted you before.

When you said you spoke Dutch and live in Belgium, I thought you meant
you are Dutch from Holland, since I think of the Belgian form of Dutch
as Flemish. I also think of the Belgian form of French as Walloon.

This is what I read: "my native language is Dutch (I'm living in
Belgium)".


Oops! Well, indeed : I do not speek Dutch but Flemish...and there IS a
difference.
And I seem to have forgotten that, indeed, I already mentionned (a few
days ago) that I live in Belgium.

Oh, a very last question : is "Gr." a good abbreviation for "Greetings"
(look at my modified signature)?

--
Gr.,
Carpe Diem
"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

Oops! Well, indeed : I do not speek Dutch but Flemish...

"I do not SPEAK .... "
What an error ;-))

--
Gr.,
Carpe Diem
"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:56:03 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

Oh, a very last question : is "Gr." a good abbreviation for "Greetings"
(look at my modified signature)?

--
Gr.,
Carpe Diem

If you hadn't said what it means, I would have had no idea. People don't
generally use a greeting at the end of an exchange, except perhaps in
Hawaii.

Carpe Diem wrote:
Sorry - I misinterpreted you before.

When you said you spoke Dutch and live in Belgium, I thought you meant
you are Dutch from Holland, since I think of the Belgian form of Dutch
as Flemish. I also think of the Belgian form of French as Walloon.

This is what I read: "my native language is Dutch (I'm living in
Belgium)".


Oops! Well, indeed : I do not speek Dutch but Flemish...and there IS a
difference.
And I seem to have forgotten that, indeed, I already mentionned (a few
days ago) that I live in Belgium.

Oh, a very last question : is "Gr." a good abbreviation for "Greetings"
(look at my modified signature)?


You're working with something like the German "Grüße". They put that at
the end of letters and the like; meaning "regards".
In English usage "greetings" goes at the front.

Before the explanation I took your "Gr" to be an expression of anger.

Ed

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:23:29 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:56:03 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

Oh, a very last question : is "Gr." a good abbreviation for "Greetings"
(look at my modified signature)?

--
Gr.,
Carpe Diem

If you hadn't said what it means, I would have had no idea. People don't
generally use a greeting at the end of an exchange, except perhaps in
Hawaii.


Ditto to both of your sentences.

Let me add two points for Carpe Diem:

1. I suspect that few, if any, people would know that by "Gr." you
meant "Greetings," *especially* if its in your signature.

2. If I had to guess what you meant by "Gr.," I would guess that you
were growling at the person you were writing to.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 13:29:30 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

Oops! Well, indeed : I do not speek Dutch but Flemish...

"I do not SPEAK .... "
What an error ;-))

I've been known to misspell my own name, so you're doing OK.

And anyone who noticed would just think it was a typo - which it was,
right?

Oh - I agree with the other comments about "Gr.". Also, in my
experience, signatures don't contain much in the way of polite things
like that anyway, which might reflect the tendency toward informality in
the US...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Ed Cryer schreef op 26/02/2015 om 18:37:
expression of anger

Oops.
Expression of anger, growling,...
Safety first : I changed my signature again. So : no misunderstandings.
Thanks for the last reactions Gene, Char, Ken and Ed.
I think it's time to finalize this thread, with thanks to everyone!

--
Carpe Diem
"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

Carpe Diem wrote:
Ed Cryer schreef op 26/02/2015 om 18:37:
expression of anger

Oops.
Expression of anger, growling,...
Safety first : I changed my signature again. So : no misunderstandings.
Thanks for the last reactions Gene, Char, Ken and Ed.
I think it's time to finalize this thread, with thanks to everyone!


"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

I thought Einstein was held to be a genius. But that little maxim
carries the tacit assumption that things can be made simpler than possible.
Barring that, it's a complete tautology, a platitude, a stupid remark,
unworthy of a 10 year old.

Ed

"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

I thought Einstein was held to be a genius. But that little maxim
carries the tacit assumption that things can be made simpler than possible.
Barring that, it's a complete tautology, a platitude, a stupid remark,
unworthy of a 10 year old.

Ed


I'm sure you didn't read the quote correctly...


--
Carpe Diem
"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:10:47 +0100, Carpe Diem
wrote:

Ed Cryer schreef op 26/02/2015 om 18:37:
expression of anger

Oops.
Expression of anger, growling,...
Safety first : I changed my signature again. So : no misunderstandings.
Thanks for the last reactions Gene, Char, Ken and Ed.
I think it's time to finalize this thread, with thanks to everyone!


You're welcome. Glad to help.

And by the way, your English is outstanding. I wish I could speak
Flemish or Dutch (or any other language) as well as you speak English.
I know a little French, German, Spanish, and Italian (Italian the
best), but I'm far from fluent in any of them.

Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:10:47 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

I like the Einstein quote! I had not seen this previously. Leave it to Mr.
Einstein to express, in plain language, the crux of Occam's razor.


It sounds like a corollary of Occam's Razor, but when you unpack it you
find it leads in the opposite direction. If Einstein really said or
wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. Which is
highly possible given that he disagreed strongly with the
logical-positivist philosophers of his day. He said that they imposed
too narrow restrictions on science, with their verification requirements.

Ed

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:34:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

"Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert
Einstein).

I thought Einstein was held to be a genius. But that little maxim
carries the tacit assumption that things can be made simpler than
possible.

You've never come across an over-simplification, Ed?

Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:41:47 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:10:47 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

I like the Einstein quote! I had not seen this previously. Leave it to Mr.
Einstein to express, in plain language, the crux of Occam's razor.


It sounds like a corollary of Occam's Razor, but when you unpack it you
find it leads in the opposite direction. If Einstein really said or
wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. Which is
highly possible given that he disagreed strongly with the
logical-positivist philosophers of his day. He said that they imposed
too narrow restrictions on science, with their verification requirements.

Ed


Oh for the love of Mike....

Ed, you bring to mind two quotes widely attributed to Benjamin Franklin:

1. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do." -Benjamin
Franklin

2. "Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more
difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment."
-Benjamin Franklin


One attributed to Plato:

"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to
say something." -Plato


And the best for last, attributed to Mark Twain:

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than
to open it and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain


People who can't see right from wrong let people like Jimmy Savile do
their thing.
If only the good people of this world do nothing then the wicked will rule.
A man with an MA in Philosophy is qualified to speak about philosophy.

Ed

mechanic wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:34:57 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

"Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert
Einstein).

I thought Einstein was held to be a genius. But that little maxim
carries the tacit assumption that things can be made simpler than
possible.

You've never come across an over-simplification, Ed?


That's how I interpret this Einstein comment. Don't oversimplify.
Well agreed, man.
But that is the opposite of Occam's Razor.

Ed