Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to register for Windows 10?

I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.

"Mark F" wrote in message
...
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.

See
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b

Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else.



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Live wrote:

"Mark F" wrote in message
...
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.

See
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b

There is now a .bat file available in a .zip, listed
in that thread. And it contains some of the logic
for getting the icon to appear.

I expect it doesn't handle all the dependencies. For
example, in the test install of Windows 7 SP1 I just
did (about 1GB of Windows Updates!), I *finally* got
the '583 update offered to me. Right after
I had installed IE11. I don't know if that was
a coincidence or not. While the optional update
installed, no icon has appeared. And that makes
sense with respect to my situation (test install).
I would not expect Win10 RTM to be offered to a
VM running without a license key.

In effect, the text here contains the "considered opinions"
of the 1000 participants in that thread. This is the .bat
file they've been playing with.

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

Paul

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:40:05 -0400, Mark F wrote:

I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite
came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was
able to pre register the laptop with no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate
OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was
upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what
version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version
were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.

I'm running windows7 home on a 2010 laptop and windows7 Professional on
my 2012 desktop. I too haven't been invited, I have auto update turned on
both. Not to worry, I'm now running Linux Mint as a parallel system and
probably wouldn't bother with windows 10 anyway. I assume they just don't
download and install without permission.

dave wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:40:05 -0400, Mark F wrote:

I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite
came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was
able to pre register the laptop with no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate
OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was
upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what
version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version
were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.

I'm running windows7 home on a 2010 laptop and windows7 Professional on
my 2012 desktop. I too haven't been invited, I have auto update turned on
both. Not to worry, I'm now running Linux Mint as a parallel system and
probably wouldn't bother with windows 10 anyway. I assume they just don't
download and install without permission.

For what it's worth, on the test install of Windows 7 SP1 I
did a couple days ago, '583 didn't show up in Windows Update
until just after I had installed IE11. What that has to do with
it, I haven't a clue. It seemed too weird to be a coincidence.
Note that the IE11 installation, modifies Explorer (the desktop),
as the IE11 installer shuts down Explorer in the middle of the
installation. It could be, that the IE11 mshtml capability
is needed by the '583 nag screen.

The other possibility, is it was purely a coincidence and
it was just a little delayed showing up. The thing is, I
was watching for '583, waiting, and nothing was happening.
My reason for installing IE11, is I'd tried earlier (using
the 50MB so-called installer from Microsoft), and the
installer started downloading a metric ton of stuff. I stopped
it, and attempted to manually install every freaking
thing under the sun in the Windows Update. Just to see
if the 50MB IE11 installer could actually install
Internet Explorer without all of those (hidden) downloads.
I couldn't tell what it was downloading, or why. So after
I had poured everything in Windows Update into the machine,
then ran the 50MB IE11 installer, it stopped downloading
stuff and just did the installation the way I had intended.
There's nothing worse than an installer sitting there,
downloading **** without telling you what it is downloading,
or more importantly, giving an estimate of how many more
hours this is going to take.

And after my next reboot and visit to Windows Update,
I was presented with my very own copy of '583.

Paul

dave wrote:

I'm running windows7 home on a 2010 laptop and windows7 Professional on
my 2012 desktop. I too haven't been invited, I have auto update turned on
both. Not to worry, I'm now running Linux Mint as a parallel system and
probably wouldn't bother with windows 10 anyway. I assume they just don't
download and install without permission.


http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b

qp
If you don’t see the Get Windows 10 app (the small Windows icon in your
system tray), it might be because:
1.Your device isn’t up-to-date with at least Windows 7 SP1 or Windows
8.1 Update
2.Windows Update is turned off or is not set to received updates
automatically
3.You’ve blocked or uninstalled the necessary Windows Update functionality.
4.Your device is not running genuine Windows
5.Your device is running Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise,
or Windows RT/RT 8.1, which are excluded from this reservation offer.
6.Your device is managed as part of a school or business network.
(Check with your IT administrator.)
7.PCs that we determine cannot run Windows 10 will not see the Get
Windows 10 app before July 29th. After July 29th, we’ll enable the icon
in the system tray. This is to help ensure that you can easily check
your PC’s compatibility if you choose.
/qp

Running Windows Update and installing latest available patch and updates
for the o/s usually resolve the first 3 issues.

#7 Is a holding pattern until after 29 Jul 2015 unless something at the
user end changes...though hard to make changes without an inkling of
what should be done.




--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Am 06.06.2015 um 20:32 schrieb Paul:
There's nothing worse than an installer sitting there,
downloading **** without telling you what it is downloading,
or more importantly, giving an estimate of how many more
hours this is going to take.

+1

On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Live wrote:

"Mark F" wrote in message
...
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.

See
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b

There is now a .bat file available in a .zip, listed
in that thread. And it contains some of the logic
for getting the icon to appear.

I expect it doesn't handle all the dependencies. For
example, in the test install of Windows 7 SP1 I just
did (about 1GB of Windows Updates!), I *finally* got
the '583 update offered to me. Right after
I had installed IE11. I don't know if that was
a coincidence or not. While the optional update
installed, no icon has appeared. And that makes
sense with respect to my situation (test install).
I would not expect Win10 RTM to be offered to a
VM running without a license key.

In effect, the text here contains the "considered opinions"
of the 1000 participants in that thread. This is the .bat
file they've been playing with.

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

Paul

Installing IE11 did it for me, too. I had Win7HP x86, and decided to update
to Win7HP x64 using my old store-bought CDs, just to be ready for a x64
Win10. When I had x86, I was offered Win10 right away after the '583 update
was intalled. After the x64 upgrade, and installing SP1 and 100+ updates, I
tried doing the IE11 installation update, but it kept failing, and I was
never offered the '583 update. I went out and downloaded the IE11
installation file, installed it, and as soon as I rebooted, I was offered
the '583. I installed it, and now I'm being offered Win10 for this machine.
Got my copy reserved :-)
--
SC Tom

On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?

Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.

Paul

On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.


IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7.

On 04/06/2015 12:40, Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.

It could be because Microsoft server is confused like you whether you
are using Windows 7 or Windows 8. U#you posted your question in Windows
8 newsgroup .

Now to reserve a copy to get it on day 1, I suggest read this Microsoft
article:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/how-to-reserve-your-free-windows-10-upgrade-and-get-it-on-day-one/ar-BBktyEq?ocid=O35_MSTECH_T3A

Some of us won't be upgrading our old Windows 7 machines because there
are no proprietary drivers for them. Even DELL won't be supplying
drivers for Optiplex 760 (which I have about 50 in my department) and so
we won't get Windows 10 upgrade but we are likely to order 50 brand new
machines in late August or early September and hopefully we'll be on
Windows 10 like you.

You need to think before you decide to upgrade because Drivers will be
the main obstacle. Microsoft has a site for open source/generic drivers
but these are for hobbyists and enthusiasts not for some productive work.

Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything
else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.


IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7.


When you check your Windows Update history, did all the prerequisites
install successfully ?

Over in the Answers forum at Microsoft, there is a thread
with more than 1000 posts. And someone posted a .bat file
intended to make the offer work. I copied it to pastebin
for later reference.

win10fix_full.bat

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

And that script is checking for the two updates, before
trying stuff.

You can try installing '583 manually. That has the binary
executables for making the offer. But it checks an
awful lot of stuff, which is why it's a pain to deal
with. In my test setup, what I was missing was a valid
key, so I couldn't get the offer from it.

Paul