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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
Went to new wifi hotspot.
Tried to log in and thought I was connected. Opened TBird and got the master password prompt. Typed the wrong password in. All eMail accounts started reporting that they could not connect. So I quit TBird and started over. I Tried Fox and saw I had no internet connection either. Tried Pale Moon and got a free open log in button and clicked it. Got to the internet finally. Went back to TBird and entered correct password in Master Password. All eMails account are now totally screwd. TBir popup says to log into web page. That means I will have to give out more personal data ALL BECAUSE TBIRD messed with the eMail accounts !!!! Total crap !!!! Is there any fix ??? |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
I waited and restarted TBird and now I got partial connection and a
message from Google that "Someone has your password" NO THEY DO NOT ! LEAVE ME ALONE ! I am so ****ed at the waste of time on this crap. |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
Some accounts are not letting me in !
I have to enter the Master Password twice !!! When TBird then allows access it says that I need to enter a password for a gmail account. BUT IT DOES NOT SAY WHAT GMAIL ACCOUNT !!! What am I a mind reader. I need access to my eMail NOW. Stupid idiots wrote this software !!! |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
TBirdUser wrote:
Went to new wifi hotspot. Tried to log in and thought I was connected. Opened TBird and got the master password prompt. Typed the wrong password in. All eMail accounts started reporting that they could not connect. This glitch has a cascading effect that affects both Tb's behavior and gmail's. So I quit TBird and started over. I Tried Fox and saw I had no internet connection either. That is a different problem from the Tb mail issue. Tried Pale Moon and got a free open log in button and clicked it. Got to the internet finally. Went back to TBird and entered correct password in Master Password. All eMails account are now totally screwd. The gmail security trigger means that you can't access your mail with Tb until you comply with gmail's captcha security measure which you can't do with Tb. It has to be done with a web browser. TBir popup says to log into web page. That is an improvement over just not working. That means I will have to give out more personal data No. That just means that it gives google a chance to appear to require that you give it a cellphone number which is much desired by google because that is a good way for lost password problems to be resolved easily and automatically. But; you do not have to comply with the cell number, but you have to have something to 'back up' your account. If not a cellno, then an alternate email address. ALL BECAUSE TBIRD messed with the eMail accounts !!!! Total crap !!!! Is there any fix ??? Because of what you say later, I would temporarily turn off the automatic email fetching so that you can control it one account at a time to save the confusion you describe later. That automation is controlled in each account settings - server settings. Temporarily turn off check for new messages at startup and every xx minutes. After everything is OK you can turn that back on again. -- Mike Easter |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
TBirdUSer wrote:
I waited and restarted TBird and now I got partial connection and a message from Google that "Someone has your password" NO THEY DO NOT ! LEAVE ME ALONE ! I am so ****ed at the waste of time on this crap. Google has some security protections that cause alerts when there is unexpected account activity; password problems, coming from a different IP. Went to new wifi hotspot. That new wifi hotspot creates several kinds of 'problems' from your mail perspective. - gmail sees you coming from a different IP. That gives alerts - your temporary password failure because of the master problem can affect the behavior of both Tb and google - some wifi hotspots are 'dangerous' because they are insecure and someone can see your credentials -- Mike Easter |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
TBirdUSer wrote:
Some accounts are not letting me in ! Therefore you need to turn off automatic mail fetching when you startup and every xx min. I have to enter the Master Password twice !!! My recommendation is to turn off the automation. Then you can control each account's mail fetching and get your individual account password problems straightened out. When TBird then allows access it says that I need to enter a password for a gmail account. BUT IT DOES NOT SAY WHAT GMAIL ACCOUNT !!! Exactly. What am I a mind reader. I need access to my eMail NOW. Stupid idiots wrote this software !!! After you turn off the automatic part, then you can fetch your mail one account at a time. Right below Tb's title bar is a grey area on my system but a different theme may have a different color. If you R click that area, you are able to turn on/off the Mail and Menu toolbars. I like having both, but the Mail is the one where you control getting mail from a specfic account. It has a function called Get Messages. That function has a menu so that you can select each account one at a time. You should make sure that all accounts are OK as far as no longer needing access by a browser to solve a captcha. Then, you likely will need to enter the user/pass for each account as you access it and ask Tb to save that user/pass. Rarely, when the password manager relationship gets screwed up it is necessary to remove user/pass to get Tb straightened out. After all the accounts are working again, you can turn the automatic mail fetching at startup and every xx minutes back on again. -- Mike Easter |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
En el artículo , TBirdUSer
escribió: Finally get banned from Netfront and had to go crawling to Aioe, did you? I am so ****ed at the waste of time on this crap. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PEBKAC You're too stupid to own a computer. -- (\_/) (='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick (")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
"TBirdUSer" wrote
| I need access to my eMail NOW. | | Stupid idiots wrote this software !!! | You're the one using it. Why not set up real email? You're irate about a product you're getting for free from a sleazeball spyware company. This same thing happened to my very elderly father. He got confused, typing in his home landline phone number and his Windows password before finally giving up. The Google messages didn't explain the context, assuming he was a college student who lives on a cellphone and is naive enough to share that number with Google. More notably, they also assumed that "everyone knows" Google wants your cellphone number, and that you regularly use a cellphone. Yet that was the first I had heard of it. I had to deduce the problem from the messages. The idea that you should need a confirmation phone call or phone text to get your email is too ridiculous to be obvious. I had to go over and help my father get his email. If I remember correctly there was an option to just say that you don't want the extra "security feature". |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:45:10 -0700, TBirdUser wrote:
All eMails account are now totally screwd. TBir popup says to log into web page. That means I will have to give out more personal data ALL BECAUSE TBIRD messed with the eMail accounts !!!! Total crap !!!! This can't be good for your blood pressure or your life expectancy. I suggest you dump TB and try another mailclient. -- s|b |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
s|b wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:45:10 -0700, TBirdUser wrote: All eMails account are now totally screwd. TBir popup says to log into web page. That means I will have to give out more personal data ALL BECAUSE TBIRD messed with the eMail accounts !!!! Total crap !!!! This can't be good for your blood pressure or your life expectancy. I suggest you dump TB and try another mailclient. Thunderbird 38 may have OAUTH2, for gmail. The developers didn't really want to do that, but did it for the user community. As the OAUTH2 web authentication method doesn't stay in the "email domain" and is a kind of architectural violation. But they couldn't be purists about this, so implemented OAUTH2 support anyway. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1068409 And Thunderbird is actually a web browser. Ninety percent of the source code, is a copy of Firefox ESR. They needed Firefox source code, so Thunderbird could support HTML in email messages. You can tell it's a web browser, when it throws a wobbly, the screen turns yellow, and in black letters it mentions not being able to parse some XML or something. That's the browser engine (XUL.dll) doing that. The Thunderbird developers are supposed to be changing to some other method, but I don't recollect the details of that. The three pane view in Thunderbird, is just a kind of web page. I don't know whether the OP would consider updating to a more recent version of Thunderbird, as it might have the missing OAUTH2. But just in terms of basic behavior, I've had it toss the password on me, when there is a connectivity issue with the USENET server, so I have had to enter the password a few times as a result. (Otherwise, the password would remain cached.) Paul |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
In message , Paul
writes s|b wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:45:10 -0700, TBirdUser wrote: All eMails account are now totally screwd. TBir popup says to log into web page. That means I will have to give out more personal data ALL BECAUSE TBIRD messed with the eMail accounts !!!! Total crap !!!! This can't be good for your blood pressure or your life expectancy. suggest you dump TB and try another mailclient. Thunderbird 38 may have OAUTH2, for gmail. The developers didn't really want to do that, but did it for the user community. As the OAUTH2 web authentication method doesn't stay in the "email domain" and is a kind of architectural violation. But they couldn't be purists about this, so implemented OAUTH2 support anyway. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1068409 And Thunderbird is actually a web browser. Ninety percent of the source code, is a copy of Firefox ESR. They needed Firefox source code, so Thunderbird could support HTML in email messages. You can tell it's a web browser, when it throws a wobbly, the screen turns yellow, and in black letters it mentions not being able to parse some XML or something. That's the browser engine (XUL.dll) doing that. The Thunderbird developers are supposed to be changing to some other method, but I don't recollect the details of that. The three pane view in Thunderbird, is just a kind of web page. I don't know whether the OP would consider updating to a more recent version of Thunderbird, as it might have the missing OAUTH2. But just in terms of basic behavior, I've had it toss the password on me, when there is a connectivity issue with the USENET server, so I have had to enter the password a few times as a result. (Otherwise, the password would remain cached.) Paul I don't know if this is relevant. I did a virgin installation of TB on a different PC (XP). I let it find my existing Gmail account (which it did), and it also automatically configured everything 'correctly'. However, I had this problem: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1159011 As suggested (near the end), changing the security settings of both servers from OAuth2 to Normal Password fixed things. -- Ian |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
It is part of the communism, google.
It is actual that it is big media. They believe they can control you, and which IP you do use, and will even go as far as reading your computer name to use it in conjunction with the IP numeral, to see who you are, before it lets you log in to your account. Many then get the lets check you **** from them, and what is your cell phone number. To re apply you to your account. In reality, many are locked out, dont have the same cell phone anymore, so its not just you. All because, gmail is an ass hole that does not comply with the declaration of independence, not to mention, the FCC not complying with its own specific laws, of freedom of speech. Upon what they label as spam. What will happen, is the entire system will break down eventually, we are very much heading for it. For its not just google thats doing this. Even the NYT does it. And WE, shall continue to use a private network, no matter what they want. In reality, what you need to do, is get your own website, pay for it, then you will not have this problem for your email. Everything changes when you get away from free email accounts. But even sometimes, we even have to watch which Ip we are using, and set the right IP numeral to go and check our own emails with. this is common now, as no one can trace a private network, and what happens is, spam firewalls block your ass, for no legitimate reasons. Just because you use a private network. Most of their bull **** of wireshark, will do not any good for those using a private network. They cannot be traced. So, while they think they can get rich in their greed, what happens is, God punishes them by the deletion of accounts because of their own stupidity. But then again, God said he would do this. And He is. On 7/30/2017 2:58 PM, TBirdUSer scribbled: Some accounts are not letting me in ! I have to enter the Master Password twice !!! When TBird then allows access it says that I need to enter a password for a gmail account. BUT IT DOES NOT SAY WHAT GMAIL ACCOUNT !!! What am I a mind reader. I need access to my eMail NOW. Stupid idiots wrote this software !!! |
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TBird totally screwed up my email accounts !!!!!!!!
and your problem is not with the program Tbird.
it is the rest of your connection... On 8/13/2017 4:27 PM, tesla sTinker scribbled: It is part of the communism, google. It is actual that it is big media. They believe they can control you, and which IP you do use, and will even go as far as reading your computer name to use it in conjunction with the IP numeral, to see who you are, before it lets you log in to your account. Many then get the lets check you **** from them, and what is your cell phone number. To re apply you to your account. In reality, many are locked out, dont have the same cell phone anymore, so its not just you. All because, gmail is an ass hole that does not comply with the declaration of independence, not to mention, the FCC not complying with its own specific laws, of freedom of speech. Upon what they label as spam. What will happen, is the entire system will break down eventually, we are very much heading for it. For its not just google thats doing this. Even the NYT does it. And WE, shall continue to use a private network, no matter what they want. In reality, what you need to do, is get your own website, pay for it, then you will not have this problem for your email. Everything changes when you get away from free email accounts. But even sometimes, we even have to watch which Ip we are using, and set the right IP numeral to go and check our own emails with. this is common now, as no one can trace a private network, and what happens is, spam firewalls block your ass, for no legitimate reasons. Just because you use a private network. Most of their bull **** of wireshark, will do not any good for those using a private network. They cannot be traced. So, while they think they can get rich in their greed, what happens is, God punishes them by the deletion of accounts because of their own stupidity. But then again, God said he would do this. And He is. On 7/30/2017 2:58 PM, TBirdUSer scribbled: Some accounts are not letting me in ! I have to enter the Master Password twice !!! When TBird then allows access it says that I need to enter a password for a gmail account. BUT IT DOES NOT SAY WHAT GMAIL ACCOUNT !!! What am I a mind reader. I need access to my eMail NOW. Stupid idiots wrote this software !!! |
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