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Old June 21st 14, 03:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Marv
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I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't want
to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If I used
Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem to be
getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.
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Old June 21st 14, 03:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 21/06/2014 03:24, Marv wrote:
I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't
want to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If
I used Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem
to be getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


Outlook.com is not an email client so you don't need it at all.
Outlook.com is a web based email offered by Microsoft. Some people have
hotmail, or live mail or msn mail but these are not offered to new joiners.

A free email client that you could try is Windows Live Mail (WLM) that
can allow you to use your own email address. WLM is offered by
Microsoft and it is free of charge running on Windows 7 and Windows 8.
I don't mention Windows XP because it is not relevant for discussion
these days.

Another free one to try is Mozilla Thunderbird. this too can allow you
to use your own email address. There are others but I don't normally
recommend fringe brands because support for them is almost non existent.

Hope this gets you started.

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Old June 21st 14, 04:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 6/20/14 8:57 PM, eMail User wrote:

On 21/06/2014 03:24, Marv wrote:
I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't
want to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If
I used Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem
to be getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


Outlook.com is not an email client so you don't need it at all.
Outlook.com is a web based email offered by Microsoft. Some people have
hotmail, or live mail or msn mail but these are not offered to new joiners.

A free email client that you could try is Windows Live Mail (WLM) that
can allow you to use your own email address. WLM is offered by
Microsoft and it is free of charge running on Windows 7 and Windows 8.
I don't mention Windows XP because it is not relevant for discussion
these days.

Another free one to try is Mozilla Thunderbird. this too can allow you
to use your own email address. There are others but I don't normally
recommend fringe brands because support for them is almost non existent.

Hope this gets you started.


Windows Live Mail cannot quote messages correctly without a 3rd party
fix, and TB has HTML message issues.

Myself, I've opted to buy Office and go back to Outlook. It's
installed, and one account set up for testing. Need to finish setting
the other email accounts, transfer my saved emails, and then find a good
newsgroup reader. TB has some long standing bugs that are likely to
never be fixed. :-(


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  #4  
Old June 21st 14, 04:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Marv wrote in news:lo2qc8$9as$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't want
to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If I used
Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem to be
getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


I've used Pegasus Mail for years. Works for me. YMMV.

http://www.pmail.com/

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  #5  
Old June 21st 14, 06:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
. . .winston
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eMail User wrote, On 6/20/2014 10:57 PM:

On 21/06/2014 03:24, Marv wrote:
I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't
want to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If
I used Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem
to be getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


Outlook.com is not an email client so you don't need it at all.
Outlook.com is a web based email offered by Microsoft. Some people have
hotmail, or live mail or msn mail but these are not offered to new joiners.



@Mail User
Accounts of the form @hotmail.com and @outlook.com are both available as
options for new MSFT accounts
http://1drv.ms/1pnCGHr

@msn.cmo accounts can only be created by existing MSN subscription
customers (BYO ISP or Premier plans)
@live.com accounts are no longer available - deprecated due to
rebranding the web UI and other application software.

Microsoft accounts (Hotmail, Outlook, Live, and Msn.com) support access
using the following email client supported protocols for pcs and other
devices.
- POP3, IMAP, Exchange Active Sync, DeltaSync


@Marvin
Almost any existing 3rd party email address can be registered as a
MSFT account. Doing so will provide the account with all the web UI
services equivalent to an Outlook.com email address. Additionally the
registered email account (3rd party or Outlook.com or Hotmail.com) can
be setup for use in an email client and perform the same send/receive
services.
- as an example if you have a @gmail.com address it can be registered
as a MSFT account giving you full access to all Outlook.com web UI
services (Email, OneDrive, Office Apps) and set that gmail account up in
any email client using the Outlook.com settings (e.g. Imap, EAS, etc.).
Also once an email address is registered one can create up to 5 alias
accounts (subaccounts of the primary account) for use.


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Old June 21st 14, 07:00 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
CRNG
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 22:24:04 -0400, Marv
wrote in

I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't want
to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If I used
Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem to be
getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


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and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
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Old June 21st 14, 08:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 20 Jun 2014, Marv wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I
don't want to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest
Outlook.com. If I used Outlook.com can I still use my existing
email address? I seem to be getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


Thunderbird
Pegasus
Opera Mail
Claws Mail

I prefer and use Pegasus Mail because I like the interface and its
filtering features are second to none. It's quirky, though, and may not
to everyone's taste.

I often recommend Thunderbird to people whose email needs are simple.
It handles POP3 and IMAP very well, but its filtering features are
limited and inconvenient.

Outlook Express is quite broken - when responding, it doesn't quote
material from the previous message in any understandable way. I
recommend people stay away from it.
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Old June 21st 14, 08:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 01:00:57 -0500, CRNG
wrote:

I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't want
to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If I used
Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem to be
getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


Agent
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php


Seconded. It's not free, but not very expensive either. Works with all
current versions of Windows, can handle newsgroups as well as email,
and can be configured more ways than you'll ever need.

A feature of it that I particularly like is that you can install it
anywhere you like and tell it to save all its message files and data
anywhere you like, and it doesn't depend on DLL files saved anywhere
else, so you can make the entire Agent folder system self-contained.
This helps a lot with backups and makes it very easy to synchronise
two installations on different machines.

Rod.
  #9  
Old June 21st 14, 09:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
. . .winston
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Nil wrote, On 6/21/2014 3:23 AM:

Outlook Express is quite broken - when responding, it doesn't quote
material from the previous message in any understandable way. I
recommend people stay away from it.

Assuming the op is using Win8 since the question was posted to the Win8
group, then it's easy to 'stay away from OE', it's not available or an
option in Win8 (OE is XP era unique with primarily 1997 code)

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  #10  
Old June 21st 14, 10:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Marv" wrote in message

I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't want
to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If I used
Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem to be
getting different opinions.

I would appreciate suggestions.


Wikipedia has a rather complete comparison of email clients...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari..._email_clients

Look particularly at Claws...
http://www.claws-mail.org/index.php?section=general


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Old June 21st 14, 12:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 6/20/2014 11:40 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Windows Live Mail cannot quote messages correctly without a 3rd party
fix, and TB has HTML message issues.

TB has HTML issues?

I have been using it for my primary email and newsgroup client for
nearly a decade and had not noticed.
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Old June 21st 14, 12:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Marv" wrote...
I want to change my email program. I have been looking at various
alternatives. A lot of people are recommending Outlook but I don't want
to purchase MS Office to get it. Others suggest Outlook.com. If I used
Outlook.com can I still use my existing email address? I seem to be
getting different opinions.


I would appreciate suggestions.


If you want Windows Mail on Win8.1U follow these simple instructions:
a.. Rename "Windows Mail" folder to "Windows Mail 8" (for not to need take
ownership)
a.. Create new "Windows Mail" folder (so all registry references still being
correct)
a.. Copy content of "Windows Mail" folder from Vista into new created
"Windows Mail" folder
a.. Copy "msidcrl30.dll" into "Windows Mail" folder from Vista
a.. Run "Windows Mail"

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Old June 21st 14, 12:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/20/2014 11:40 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Windows Live Mail cannot quote messages correctly without a 3rd party
fix, and TB has HTML message issues.

TB has HTML issues?

I have been using it for my primary email and newsgroup client for
nearly a decade and had not noticed.


Send an HTML email to outlook.com, gmail and yahoo mail and compare them
and you shall notice.

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Old June 21st 14, 01:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 6/21/14 5:15 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/20/2014 11:40 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
Windows Live Mail cannot quote messages correctly without a 3rd party
fix, and TB has HTML message issues.

TB has HTML issues?


Better believe it. My impression is, from reading the Thunderbird
newsgroup, many TB users do text only. That's fine, it's their choice.
Many times their solution seems to be to ask you to dump the HTML
email, and go text. If that is the way of the future, then why aren't
all the web email programs going that way?

"I'm sorry for the problems with your 2012 Studebaker, we suggest you
get the 2002 model." G

I have been using it for my primary email and newsgroup client for
nearly a decade and had not noticed.


It all depends on what features you use, and how you use the program.
But that's true for any piece of software.

So you may never see any of the issues any particular program has.

I don't mind if/when issues are found. It's not fixing them, yet have
the time to introduce new things, that's driven me away. And
apparently, Mozilla is no longer interested in funding further
development of TB, just fixing security issues by volunteers. There's a
post/public announcement about that, but I don't know where to find it.
It was quoted in a Mozilla newsgroup.


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Firefox 25.0
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and it's gone!"
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Old June 21st 14, 02:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 6/21/2014 8:27 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
er see any of the issues any particular program has.

I don't mind if/when issues are found. It's not fixing them, yet have
the time to introduce new things, that's driven me away. And
apparently, Mozilla is no longer interested in funding further
development of TB, just fix



The development of TB is continuing, if you will read the Mozilla
information sites, not the Microsoft sites.

The current Thunderbird is 24.6.0 it is based on Gecko 30 the same level
of development as the current Firefox, The current Firefox is 30 based
on Gecko 30.

TB 31 based on Gecko 31 is scheduled to be released July 22, 2014. It
probably will be released as 24.7.0, so that the corporate user do not
have to do as much checking.

I posted above and said I had used TB for HTML messages for nearly a
decade. I have been use HTML, because I like seeing the pictures in the
body and being able to use formatting like bullets, bold, italics, etc
 




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