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Old January 18th 14, 06:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kirk Bubul[_2_]
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Default Toggle Keys won't survive a reboot

I am running Windows 8.1 Home on a new HP desktop that came with
the OS pre-installed. I like engaging Toggle Keys so that a tone
sounds when I hit the Caps Lock key (which I do inadvertently
when trying to hit the Tab key). But every time I reboot, I have
to press and hold the NumLock key for five seconds in order to
reimplement Toggle Keys.

Is there something that I can do to make Toggle Keys "sticky"
through reboots?

My PC is bone stock except for also having Start8 installed. (But
I had Start8 installed on my old HP which had Windows 8.1 Pro and
didn't have this problem.)

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old January 18th 14, 06:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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Default Toggle Keys won't survive a reboot

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:39:22 -0600, Kirk Bubul
wrote:

I am running Windows 8.1 Home on a new HP desktop that came with
the OS pre-installed. I like engaging Toggle Keys so that a tone
sounds when I hit the Caps Lock key (which I do inadvertently
when trying to hit the Tab key). But every time I reboot, I have
to press and hold the NumLock key for five seconds in order to
reimplement Toggle Keys.

Is there something that I can do to make Toggle Keys "sticky"
through reboots?



I don't know, but if you are like me, you never want to use Caps Lock.
If so, you might want to install and use the free Sharpkeys at
http://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/. I use it to turn off the Caps Lock and
Insert keys entirely; they do nothing.

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Old January 18th 14, 08:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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Default Toggle Keys won't survive a reboot

On 1/18/2014 11:53 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:39:22 -0600, Kirk
wrote:

I am running Windows 8.1 Home on a new HP desktop that came with
the OS pre-installed. I like engaging Toggle Keys so that a tone
sounds when I hit the Caps Lock key (which I do inadvertently
when trying to hit the Tab key). But every time I reboot, I have
to press and hold the NumLock key for five seconds in order to
reimplement Toggle Keys.

Is there something that I can do to make Toggle Keys "sticky"
through reboots?


I don't know, but if you are like me, you never want to use Caps Lock.
If so, you might want to install and use the free Sharpkeys at
http://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/. I use it to turn off the Caps Lock and
Insert keys entirely; they do nothing.


Yeah I too don't quite understand what you want to do. And as posted by
Ken there are utilities that does things like this.

Although I think I use what you would like. Although the catch is it
only works with Logitech keyboards and with their program called
SetPoint. So you have to purchase a Logitech keyboard first.

Why would you want to? Well some of them have special Windows 8 hotkeys.
I find this super handy and saves me a lot of wasted time. I use the
same keyboard on non-Windows 8 machines too and you can reassign those
same special keys to do many different things. For example I am using it
right now under XP.

And like Ken I too turn off the Insert key. I could turn off Capslock
too, but I actually use it a couple of times per year. But with
SetPoint, I have it set to pop up a transparent window saying Capslocks
on or off when changed (which fades in a second or two) and also to add
a tone. Just in case I accidentally hit it while not looking at the screen.

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Old January 18th 14, 09:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default Toggle Keys won't survive a reboot

Kirk Bubul wrote:
I am running Windows 8.1 Home on a new HP desktop that came with
the OS pre-installed. I like engaging Toggle Keys so that a tone
sounds when I hit the Caps Lock key (which I do inadvertently
when trying to hit the Tab key). But every time I reboot, I have
to press and hold the NumLock key for five seconds in order to
reimplement Toggle Keys.

Is there something that I can do to make Toggle Keys "sticky"
through reboots?

My PC is bone stock except for also having Start8 installed. (But
I had Start8 installed on my old HP which had Windows 8.1 Pro and
didn't have this problem.)

Thanks in advance for your help.


I can see a reference here, but can't test it right now. They
list some registry entries you could access from Regedit.

http://unattended.msfn.org/unattende...04a5715e6c50c/

; Enable Toggle Keys
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Accessibility\ToggleKeys]
"Flags"="63"

And that doesn't even mean the value is persistent. And that
registry key is likely for a different OS, as the posting is from 2006.

Paul
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Old January 18th 14, 09:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kirk Bubul[_2_]
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Default Toggle Keys won't survive a reboot

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:05:32 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Snip

I can see a reference here, but can't test it right now. They
list some registry entries you could access from Regedit.

http://unattended.msfn.org/unattende...04a5715e6c50c/

; Enable Toggle Keys
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Accessibility\ToggleKeys]
"Flags"="63"

And that doesn't even mean the value is persistent. And that
registry key is likely for a different OS, as the posting is from 2006.

Paul

I looked in the Registry and found this value in the same place
in Windows 8.1. However, the value on my Registry was "62." I
changed it to "63" and the toggle sound survived one test reboot.
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Old January 20th 14, 03:22 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Joe Morris
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Default Toggle Keys won't survive a reboot

"Kirk Bubul" wrote:

I am running Windows 8.1 Home on a new HP desktop that came with
the OS pre-installed. I like engaging Toggle Keys so that a tone
sounds when I hit the Caps Lock key (which I do inadvertently
when trying to hit the Tab key). But every time I reboot, I have
to press and hold the NumLock key for five seconds in order to
reimplement Toggle Keys.


Is there something that I can do to make Toggle Keys "sticky"
through reboots?


The system is doing what you've asked it to do...although our friends at
Microsoft didn't make it clear that more steps were needed.

By default you can turn ToggleKeys on by holding down the NumLock key for
five seconds, but that's not a persistent setting. To permanently turn on
ToggleKeys:

Open the Control Panel

If you display categories in the Control Panel, click on "Ease of Access",
then click "Change how your keyboard works". If you display icons, click
"Ease of Access Center", then click "Make the keyboard easier to use".

Under "Make it easier to type" you'll see a checked box next to the label
"Turn on ToggleKeys by holding down the NUM LOCAK key for 5 seconds". Just
above it is an UNCHECKED box "Turn on ToggleKeys".

Click the "Turn on ToggleKeys" box and verify that it's now checked, click
APPLY, click OK. ToggleKeys will now be on and will continue to be on after
booting.

I'll guess that after you made the Registry change that Paul provided the
"Turn on ToggleKeys" box is already checked on your system...but you now
have the ability to set it via the Control Panel.

Joe


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Old January 20th 14, 11:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Kirk Bubul[_2_]
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Default Toggle Keys won't survive a reboot

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:22:47 -0500, "Joe Morris"
wrote:

ToggleKeys" box and verify that it's now checked, click
APPLY, click OK. ToggleKeys will now be on and will continue to be on after
booting.


Thanks, Joe. When I went into Control Panel, I found that both
the boxes were checked. Perhaps changing the Registry value to
"63" did that.

The Toggle Keys entry has persisted through several bootups since
making the Registry change. So I'm hoping that my problem is
solved.
 




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