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Home Network with Vista & XP
I have recently setup a home lan network using a linksys router connected to
Qwest DSL modem (wireless capable) and 3 computers and 1 network printer. The 3 computers a 1 laptop running XP Pro, 1 laptop running Vista Home Premium, and 1 desktop running XP Home. Wireless is also connected via the Qwest modem. All shared drives and folders map with no problems from all computers. Problem: the vista laptop can see all terminals on the work group but the xp terminals cannot see the vista terminal in the network. This not necessarily a problem since all map and printer is available to all, just curious if vista causes this problem? Another issue : the xp terminals can share local printers but not the local printer attached to the vista machine. Bc |
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Home Network with Vista & XP
Bearcat Bc wrote:
I have recently setup a home lan network using a linksys router connected to Qwest DSL modem (wireless capable) and 3 computers and 1 network printer. The 3 computers a 1 laptop running XP Pro, 1 laptop running Vista Home Premium, and 1 desktop running XP Home. Wireless is also connected via the Qwest modem. All shared drives and folders map with no problems from all computers. Problem: the vista laptop can see all terminals on the work group but the xp terminals cannot see the vista terminal in the network. This not necessarily a problem since all map and printer is available to all, just curious if vista causes this problem? Another issue : the xp terminals can share local printers but not the local printer attached to the vista machine. Bc You could have several problems going on here. 1. Make sure that "network discovery" is turned on in the Vista machine. 2. If you are running a non-Windows firewall (esp. on the Vista box), make sure it is configured to permit local network traffic. 3. It sounds as if you actually have two routers. If it is the source of your wireless network, the Qwest "modem" is a router. It's likely that the Qwest wireless router and the Linksys router are assigning IP addresses in different subnets. Devices on different subnets can't communicate directly. If the Vista box is connected via wireless and the rest of the equipment is connected via wire to the Linksys router, this could be your issue. Posting the results of ipconfig /all from all of your computers might be a help. Canned networking advice from MS-MVP Malke: Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. In Vista, turn Password Protected Sharing ON. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this: XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Vista - Start OrbSearch boxtype: netplwiz [enter] Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by UAC Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null). D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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Home Network with Vista & XP
Bearcat Bc wrote:
I have recently setup a home lan network using a linksys router connected to Qwest DSL modem (wireless capable) and 3 computers and 1 network printer. The 3 computers a 1 laptop running XP Pro, 1 laptop running Vista Home Premium, and 1 desktop running XP Home. Wireless is also connected via the Qwest modem. All shared drives and folders map with no problems from all computers. Problem: the vista laptop can see all terminals on the work group but the xp terminals cannot see the vista terminal in the network. This not necessarily a problem since all map and printer is available to all, just curious if vista causes this problem? Another issue : the xp terminals can share local printers but not the local printer attached to the vista machine. Bc You could have several problems going on here. 1. Make sure that "network discovery" is turned on in the Vista machine. 2. If you are running a non-Windows firewall (esp. on the Vista box), make sure it is configured to permit local network traffic. 3. It sounds as if you actually have two routers. If it is the source of your wireless network, the Qwest "modem" is a router. It's likely that the Qwest wireless router and the Linksys router are assigning IP addresses in different subnets. Devices on different subnets can't communicate directly. If the Vista box is connected via wireless and the rest of the equipment is connected via wire to the Linksys router, this could be your issue. Posting the results of ipconfig /all from all of your computers might be a help. Canned networking advice from MS-MVP Malke: Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. In Vista, turn Password Protected Sharing ON. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this: XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Vista - Start OrbSearch boxtype: netplwiz [enter] Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by UAC Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null). D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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Home Network with Vista & XP
Thanks Lem,
The problem was in the naming on the vista terminal for the work group. Vista's default name "Workgroup" reverted after original setup for some reason. Thought I had it correct the first time. Once corrected I was able to share the local vista printer as well All is good. Bc "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Bearcat Bc wrote: I have recently setup a home lan network using a linksys router connected to Qwest DSL modem (wireless capable) and 3 computers and 1 network printer. The 3 computers a 1 laptop running XP Pro, 1 laptop running Vista Home Premium, and 1 desktop running XP Home. Wireless is also connected via the Qwest modem. All shared drives and folders map with no problems from all computers. Problem: the vista laptop can see all terminals on the work group but the xp terminals cannot see the vista terminal in the network. This not necessarily a problem since all map and printer is available to all, just curious if vista causes this problem? Another issue : the xp terminals can share local printers but not the local printer attached to the vista machine. Bc You could have several problems going on here. 1. Make sure that "network discovery" is turned on in the Vista machine. 2. If you are running a non-Windows firewall (esp. on the Vista box), make sure it is configured to permit local network traffic. 3. It sounds as if you actually have two routers. If it is the source of your wireless network, the Qwest "modem" is a router. It's likely that the Qwest wireless router and the Linksys router are assigning IP addresses in different subnets. Devices on different subnets can't communicate directly. If the Vista box is connected via wireless and the rest of the equipment is connected via wire to the Linksys router, this could be your issue. Posting the results of ipconfig /all from all of your computers might be a help. Canned networking advice from MS-MVP Malke: Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. In Vista, turn Password Protected Sharing ON. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this: XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Vista - Start OrbSearch boxtype: netplwiz [enter] Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by UAC Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null). D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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Home Network with Vista & XP
Thanks Lem,
The problem was in the naming on the vista terminal for the work group. Vista's default name "Workgroup" reverted after original setup for some reason. Thought I had it correct the first time. Once corrected I was able to share the local vista printer as well All is good. Bc "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Bearcat Bc wrote: I have recently setup a home lan network using a linksys router connected to Qwest DSL modem (wireless capable) and 3 computers and 1 network printer. The 3 computers a 1 laptop running XP Pro, 1 laptop running Vista Home Premium, and 1 desktop running XP Home. Wireless is also connected via the Qwest modem. All shared drives and folders map with no problems from all computers. Problem: the vista laptop can see all terminals on the work group but the xp terminals cannot see the vista terminal in the network. This not necessarily a problem since all map and printer is available to all, just curious if vista causes this problem? Another issue : the xp terminals can share local printers but not the local printer attached to the vista machine. Bc You could have several problems going on here. 1. Make sure that "network discovery" is turned on in the Vista machine. 2. If you are running a non-Windows firewall (esp. on the Vista box), make sure it is configured to permit local network traffic. 3. It sounds as if you actually have two routers. If it is the source of your wireless network, the Qwest "modem" is a router. It's likely that the Qwest wireless router and the Linksys router are assigning IP addresses in different subnets. Devices on different subnets can't communicate directly. If the Vista box is connected via wireless and the rest of the equipment is connected via wire to the Linksys router, this could be your issue. Posting the results of ipconfig /all from all of your computers might be a help. Canned networking advice from MS-MVP Malke: Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. In Vista, turn Password Protected Sharing ON. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this: XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Vista - Start OrbSearch boxtype: netplwiz [enter] Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by UAC Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null). D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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