XP Firewall does not stop pop up spam

I enabled the ICF firewall in my XP Home Edition and
found that pop up messages are still getting through.
Any suggestions about fixing ICF or using other products?

The built in firewall is kind of a joke. The term "Firewall" is used fairly
loosely by MS.

It does a few nice things, but basically it's just not a complete sollution.
For instance;

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q306203

please note the "workaround" suggested by microsoft. (the term "workaround"
is also loosely used by MS.)

So there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth.

I like Zone Alarm myself, but I hear good things about "Tiny" and "Sygate
Pro", and have been meaning to try them out.



"Burry" wrote in message
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I enabled the ICF firewall in my XP Home Edition and
found that pop up messages are still getting through.
Any suggestions about fixing ICF or using other products?

A firewall does not stop web browser pop open windows.
Are you speaking of these types of popups ?

"Burry" wrote in message
...
I enabled the ICF firewall in my XP Home Edition and
found that pop up messages are still getting through.
Any suggestions about fixing ICF or using other products?

Matt wrote:
The built in firewall is kind of a joke.

Much like your advice. Firstly the type of firewall at use here isn't an
issue, and secondly, do you even _know_ what ipv6 is?

Yes, ads in windows pop up at random. University of
Phoenix is the worst offender. The ICF does not stop them.

-----Original Message-----
A firewall does not stop web browser pop open windows.
Are you speaking of these types of popups ?

"Burry" wrote in message
...
I enabled the ICF firewall in my XP Home Edition and
found that pop up messages are still getting through.
Any suggestions about fixing ICF or using other
products?


.

Greetings --

This a type of spam has become quite common over the past few
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Disabling the messenger service, as
some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does nothing to
secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with" these
messages and the problem they represent is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default...B;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Additionally:

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm


Bruce Chambers

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"Burry" wrote in message
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I enabled the ICF firewall in my XP Home Edition and
found that pop up messages are still getting through.
Any suggestions about fixing ICF or using other products?

Yeah I know what IPv6 is, obviously not as much as you, but just a little.

The Original poster obviously thought that the built in firewall would be
enough to stop pop-ups, now he knows otherwise and wants some advice.

Strangely enough we didn't see any from you!

I'm aware that IPv6 has nothing to do with the issue at hand, but giving an
example of at least one weakness in the ICS firewall was my intention (plus
I like the "Workaround" suggested.)

When you get down off your high-horse let us know how you came to the
conclusion that the type of firewall wasn't an issue. I think that the
original poster wanted to know was "can ICS firewall be fixed? or does he
need some other software to stop pop-ups?"

You were a great help, but I think you could have done better.



"Robert Moir" wrote in message
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Matt wrote:
The built in firewall is kind of a joke.

Much like your advice. Firstly the type of firewall at use here isn't an
issue, and secondly, do you even _know_ what ipv6 is?

xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:

When you get down off your high-horse let us know how you came to the
conclusion that the type of firewall wasn't an issue. I think that
the original poster wanted to know was "can ICS firewall be fixed? or
does he need some other software to stop pop-ups?"

Because the firewall built into XP stops Windows messenger popups just fine
as does all the other software firewalls out there, therefore if they are
still getting popups then its not that particular kind of popup therefore
the firewall isn't relevant.

The problem is likely to either be popups that pop-up when you visit
websites that think such kinds of things are acceptable, or they are likely
to be a result of spyware installed on the computer.

Actually Robert, exactly what type of pop-up was never mentioned. However,
and I don't mean to nit-pick, but some firewalls, Zone Alarm Pro being one
and I'm sure there are others, do stop pop-ups of all types. They may not
be fool proof, but I think being 99% effective (in my book) qualifies.



"Robert Moir" wrote in message
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xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:

When you get down off your high-horse let us know how you came to the
conclusion that the type of firewall wasn't an issue. I think that
the original poster wanted to know was "can ICS firewall be fixed? or
does he need some other software to stop pop-ups?"

Because the firewall built into XP stops Windows messenger popups just
fine
as does all the other software firewalls out there, therefore if they are
still getting popups then its not that particular kind of popup therefore
the firewall isn't relevant.

The problem is likely to either be popups that pop-up when you visit
websites that think such kinds of things are acceptable, or they are
likely
to be a result of spyware installed on the computer.

xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:
Actually Robert, exactly what type of pop-up was never mentioned.

*sigh* its painfully obvious which type it *wasn't* from the fact that ICF
was enabled.

However, and I don't mean to nit-pick, but some firewalls, Zone Alarm
Pro being one and I'm sure there are others, do stop pop-ups of all
types. They may not be fool proof, but I think being 99% effective
(in my book) qualifies.

That's not typical firewall functionality, so forgive me if i find it hard
to connect it to a firewall. But then if we're going to nit-pick then
neither ICF, Zone Alarm, or any other competing product are what a security
professional would call a real firewall.

Your right. I should be recommending things like the Cisco PIX 535, and not
try to kill two birds with one stone as I attempted to.
You have enlightened me and I am grateful for your contibutions to both
myself and this topic.

Thanks again.


"Robert Moir" wrote in message
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xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:
Actually Robert, exactly what type of pop-up was never mentioned.

*sigh* its painfully obvious which type it *wasn't* from the fact that ICF
was enabled.

However, and I don't mean to nit-pick, but some firewalls, Zone Alarm
Pro being one and I'm sure there are others, do stop pop-ups of all
types. They may not be fool proof, but I think being 99% effective
(in my book) qualifies.

That's not typical firewall functionality, so forgive me if i find it hard
to connect it to a firewall. But then if we're going to nit-pick then
neither ICF, Zone Alarm, or any other competing product are what a
security
professional would call a real firewall.

First, get AdAware from LavaSoft and install, update and run it against your
system. Delete everything it finds.

Secondly - get a decent and updated Antivirus software installed.

Thirdly - you must go to a lot of web pages that offer popups (I get a few -
but not an annoying amount each day) - but if you must - do a search on
www.google .com for "pop up stopper" and start reading. Find the one that
you think you would be able to install, configure and use daily. Don't be
surprised if it has side effects.

And for those who argued so long over firewalls - grow up. That's not going
to stop web page popups 95% of the time in any case. And some pages are
made in such a way that popups are a necessity - they actually open a whole
new browser on purpopse. Next time, just help the person in question and
argue in another post. I am sure Burry just wanted help, not a flame war.

"Burry" wrote in message :
Yes, ads in windows pop up at random. University of
Phoenix is the worst offender. The ICF does not stop them.

-----Original Message-----
A firewall does not stop web browser pop open windows.
Are you speaking of these types of popups ?

"Burry" wrote in message
...
I enabled the ICF firewall in my XP Home Edition and
found that pop up messages are still getting through.
Any suggestions about fixing ICF or using other
products?


.

xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:
Your right. I should be recommending things like the Cisco PIX 535,
and not try to kill two birds with one stone as I attempted to.

Your sarcasm doesn't disguise the fact you were issuing broken advice.

You have enlightened me and I am grateful for your contibutions to
both myself and this topic.

Don't mention it.

No software implemented "firewall" is a valid firewall if
it is implemented using a single machine.

"Matt" wrote in message
...
The built in firewall is kind of a joke. The term "Firewall" is used
fairly
loosely by MS.

It does a few nice things, but basically it's just not a complete
sollution.
For instance;

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q306203

please note the "workaround" suggested by microsoft. (the term
"workaround"
is also loosely used by MS.)

So there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth.

I like Zone Alarm myself, but I hear good things about "Tiny" and "Sygate
Pro", and have been meaning to try them out.



"Burry" wrote in message
...
I enabled the ICF firewall in my XP Home Edition and
found that pop up messages are still getting through.
Any suggestions about fixing ICF or using other products?

On Mon, 26 May 2003 16:44:46 +0100, "Robert Moir"
wrote:

Matt wrote:
The built in firewall is kind of a joke.

Much like your advice. Firstly the type of firewall at use here isn't an
issue, and secondly, do you even _know_ what ipv6 is?

Actually his advice is right on. MS version of a firewall is a
complete joke. Do you even understand that IPv6 (note the correct
capitalization please) has nothing to do with XP and its "firewall".