XP Firewall does not stop pop up spam

On Mon, 26 May 2003 17:46:27 +0100, "Robert Moir"
wrote:

xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:

When you get down off your high-horse let us know how you came to the
conclusion that the type of firewall wasn't an issue. I think that
the original poster wanted to know was "can ICS firewall be fixed? or
does he need some other software to stop pop-ups?"

Because the firewall built into XP stops Windows messenger popups just fine
as does all the other software firewalls out there, therefore if they are
still getting popups then its not that particular kind of popup therefore
the firewall isn't relevant.

So here you say it works...

The problem is likely to either be popups that pop-up when you visit
websites that think such kinds of things are acceptable, or they are likely
to be a result of spyware installed on the computer.

and here you admit it doesn't.

Zone Alarm stops all spyware. XP's firewall is simply a poor attempt
at creating something that typical consumers would use.

DJ,

What are you talking about..?
Yes - the XP ICF does block the NET SEND POP-UPS, as stated. But does NOT
stop Web Page Pop-ups.

Zone alarm CAN - if you know what you are doing, keep particular outgoing
traffic from outgoing - and yes - XP ICF does not block outgoing traffic at
all. So technically, Zone Alarm can not only stop the NET SEND POP-UPS and
keep the spyware you installed from sending out data you don't want - but it
does not block Web Page Pop-Up or Pop-Unders to my knowledge.

"DJ" wrote in message :
On Mon, 26 May 2003 17:46:27 +0100, "Robert Moir"
wrote:

xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:

When you get down off your high-horse let us know how you came to the
conclusion that the type of firewall wasn't an issue. I think that
the original poster wanted to know was "can ICS firewall be fixed? or
does he need some other software to stop pop-ups?"

Because the firewall built into XP stops Windows messenger popups just
fine
as does all the other software firewalls out there, therefore if they are
still getting popups then its not that particular kind of popup therefore
the firewall isn't relevant.

So here you say it works...

The problem is likely to either be popups that pop-up when you visit
websites that think such kinds of things are acceptable, or they are
likely
to be a result of spyware installed on the computer.

and here you admit it doesn't.

Zone Alarm stops all spyware. XP's firewall is simply a poor attempt
at creating something that typical consumers would use.

This is the last from me on this matter. (Matt = xX-spitfire-Xx) (different
PC's, lazy setup)

I used the IPv6 problem as an example. What it is (IPv6), is not relevant.
What I thought was relevant was the fact that it will pass through the XP
firewall.

It was an example.

I'm very sorry I mentioned it!

PS. Zone Alarm Pro has an "Ad Blocking" feature on its privacy page, with
the caption "Blocks All pop-ups/pop-under and animated ads". I personally
find it 99% effective in stopping all web-page pop-ups. Coupled with its
regular program updates, I highly reccomend this for someone with XP Home
ed. who wants a more effective firewall. I don't think anyone is suggesting
that this is a complete sollution. It is, however, a zillion times better
then the built in, and IMO more then good enough for most people.

I was a little annoyed that someone would jump down my throat and not offer
any advice to the contrary, but we all have our cranky days.


Peace All.



"DJ" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 May 2003 16:44:46 +0100, "Robert Moir"
wrote:

Matt wrote:
The built in firewall is kind of a joke.

Much like your advice. Firstly the type of firewall at use here isn't an
issue, and secondly, do you even _know_ what ipv6 is?

Actually his advice is right on. MS version of a firewall is a
complete joke. Do you even understand that IPv6 (note the correct
capitalization please) has nothing to do with XP and its "firewall".

DJ wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2003 17:46:27 +0100, "Robert Moir"
wrote:

xX-spitfire-Xx wrote:

When you get down off your high-horse let us know how you came to
the conclusion that the type of firewall wasn't an issue. I think
that the original poster wanted to know was "can ICS firewall be
fixed? or does he need some other software to stop pop-ups?"

Because the firewall built into XP stops Windows messenger popups
just fine as does all the other software firewalls out there,
therefore if they are still getting popups then its not that
particular kind of popup therefore the firewall isn't relevant.

So here you say it works...

The problem is likely to either be popups that pop-up when you visit
websites that think such kinds of things are acceptable, or they are
likely to be a result of spyware installed on the computer.

and here you admit it doesn't.

No. Sorry to be going over your head.

DJ wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2003 16:44:46 +0100, "Robert Moir"
wrote:

Matt wrote:
The built in firewall is kind of a joke.

Much like your advice. Firstly the type of firewall at use here
isn't an issue, and secondly, do you even _know_ what ipv6 is?

Actually his advice is right on. MS version of a firewall is a
complete joke.

All software firewalls are imperfect. Microsoft's one is less perfect than
others however, it is perfectly adequate at blocking Windows Messenger
netbios popups.

Do you even understand that IPv6 (note the correct
capitalization please) has nothing to do with XP and its "firewall".

I understand perfectly. Read the thread again: It wasn't me who used it as
an example. In fact the un-suitability of that as an example is precisely my
point.


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Rob Moir
Microsoft MVP for Windows / Security
www.robertmoir.co.uk