Increase the performance and lifespan of your SSD

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:24:01 +0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:

Any usefulness this thing's speculation might have had is passé,
replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter and more
experienced.

This poster needs to learn how to post. He put his whole reply after his
sig delimiter, which is why it was automatically greyed out in my
newsreader and also why it automatically disappeared in my reply. He
also seems to have changed fonts to something pretty much unreadable,
but I fixed that.

I also followed ZB's lead in limiting the crossposting.

As for this poster's opinion, I smile wryly :-)

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"Gene E. Bloch" not-me other.invalid wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Any usefulness this thing's speculation might have had is
pass‚, replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter
and more experienced.

This poster needs to learn how to post.

Says a complete newbie.

He put his whole reply after his sig delimiter,

Wrong. I put this thing's whole reply after my signature
delimiter.

which is why it was automatically greyed out in my newsreader
and also why it automatically disappeared in my reply.

It wasn't worth reading.

He also seems to have changed fonts to something pretty much
unreadable, but I fixed that.

That's just naïve. Nobody with any experience using a computer on
the Internet would suggest that. Your client determines your font.
Something like that might have to do with encoding, but it has
nothing to do with me.

If you need help with posting, or help with understanding other
people's posts, ask in an appropriate group.

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I also followed ZB's lead in limiting the crossposting.

As for this poster's opinion, I smile wryly :-)

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On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 01:51:00 +0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" not-me other.invalid wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Any usefulness this thing's speculation might have had is
pass‚, replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter
and more experienced.

This poster needs to learn how to post.

Says a complete newbie.

He put his whole reply after his sig delimiter,

Wrong. I put this thing's whole reply after my signature
delimiter.

which is why it was automatically greyed out in my newsreader
and also why it automatically disappeared in my reply.

It wasn't worth reading.

He also seems to have changed fonts to something pretty much
unreadable, but I fixed that.

That's just naîµ¥. Nobody with any experience using a computer on
the Internet would suggest that. Your client determines your font.
Something like that might have to do with encoding, but it has
nothing to do with me.

If you need help with posting, or help with understanding other
people's posts, ask in an appropriate group.

My earlier impressions of you in this NG were not totally positive.
Finally, though, things have changed.

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On 18 Jan 2013, John Doe wrote in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:

I think we can stop kicking a dead horse already.

Oh, my God - did he really say that, after what he himself said earlier
in this very thread??

Don't post something as if you knew, when in fact
yours was pure speculation.

Oh, my God - did he really say that, after what he himself said earlier
in this very thread??

On 18 Jan 2013, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

My earlier impressions of you in this NG were not totally positive.
Finally, though, things have changed.

What took you so long? I think most people realized it months or years
ago.

Nil rednoise REMOVETHIScomcast.net wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" not-me other.invalid wrote

My earlier impressions of you in this NG were not totally
positive. Finally, though, things have changed.

What took you so long?

Not that it matters, but... Now your impressions of me are totally
positive, Nildo?

I think most people realized it months or years ago.

Realized that you are a regular troll, Nildo.

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Looks like a Nildo is on a drunken trolling spree...

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Nil rednoise REMOVETHIScomcast.net wrote:

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On 18 Jan 2013, John Doe jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote in
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:

I think we can stop kicking a dead horse already.

Oh, my God - did he really say that, after what he himself said earlier
in this very thread??

Don't post something as if you knew, when in fact
yours was pure speculation.

Oh, my God - did he really say that, after what he himself said earlier
in this very thread??

Zaphod Beeblebrox Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox gmail.com wrote:

Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without* throwing in
your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.

Or maybe you should get a clue, and realize that I already have a
clue, by searching the UseNet archive for my e-mail ID and (SSD
"wear leveling"). Hindsight is 20-20. Some of the speculators can
pretend that they knew it all, bolstered by looking at the more
intelligent and experienced posters' replies. My research of wear
leveling shows that at one point it was done above the firmware
level. So stop pretending that you know it all.

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If I had two heads like you, Zaphod,
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:36:22 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 18 Jan 2013, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

My earlier impressions of you in this NG were not totally positive.
Finally, though, things have changed.

What took you so long? I think most people realized it months or years
ago.

I only became aware of him recently, but mostly, I was having fun
wording my remark that way :-)

Now I get to read his reply to the above. I can wait. Oops. I meant
*hardly* wait.

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"Gene E. Bloch" not-me other.invalid wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" not-me other.invalid wrote

My earlier impressions of you in this NG were not totally
positive. Finally, though, things have changed.

I was having fun wording my remark that way :-)

It's simply gibberish, from the same half-literate troll that says
I'm responsible for how its fonts look...

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Now I get to read his reply to the above. I can wait. Oops. I meant
*hardly* wait.

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On 17/01/2013 12:49 PM, John Doe wrote:
Anybody else consider the possibility that periodically moving the
swap file on an SSD might help prolong its life while reaping the
benefit of an SSD swapfile?

No, it's of no consequence.

In other words... Instead of putting the swap file on a conventional
drive, keep it on your SSD. Every once in a while, but just the swap
file so that Windows moves it to another location. You can do that
easily enough by deleting the swap file and then copying files to
intrude on that former swap file space. Then you have Windows make
another swapfile in a different location.

Absolutely no need. Though I agree there is no problem keeping the
swapfile on the SSD. But there is absolutely no need for you to "move"
the swapfile around, it's done automatically by the SSD itself whenever
a write happens on any portion of it. SSD's do not ever write to the
same cell consecutively. Cells that are marked dirty get put into a
reserve pool, where they are then reset in the background, ready to be
reused somewhere else at some point in the future.

Yousuf Khan

On 17/01/2013 3:43 PM, John Doe wrote:
Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
from practically every other file in Windows. I have searched
hard, but not found anything conclusive or authoritative about an
SSD handling (pagefile.sys).

So the fact that there's no one else that's asking this question,
doesn't that clue you in that there's no issue here? You have convinced
yourself about the special "nature" of this one particular file, and
won't accept any answers that contradict your preconceived notions?

There is nothing special about the pagefile.sys below the OS level. At
the SSD hardware level this is just some more data, like anything else,
it doesn't treat it specially, in fact it doesn't even know how to treat
any files specially, that's too high-level for it to understand.

Yousuf Khan

On 17/01/2013 4:59 PM, John Doe wrote:
Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

Now you're just being a troll, believe what you want, I think you'll
find nobody will respond any further to you.

Yousuf Khan

Drunk? Otherwise it might have noticed several of my posts already
acknowledging the opinions of more knowledgeable and experienced
posters...

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Yousuf Khan bbbl67 spammenot.yahoo.com wrote:

On 17/01/2013 3:43 PM, John Doe wrote:
Anybody who's done any reading about SSDs knows about wear
leveling. But as any technically inclined user knows, an algorithm
doesn't always cover every base. The (pagefile.sys) is different
from practically every other file in Windows. I have searched
hard, but not found anything conclusive or authoritative about an
SSD handling (pagefile.sys).

So the fact that there's no one else that's asking this question,
doesn't that clue you in that there's no issue here? You have convinced
yourself about the special "nature" of this one particular file, and
won't accept any answers that contradict your preconceived notions?

There is nothing special about the pagefile.sys below the OS level. At
the SSD hardware level this is just some more data, like anything else,
it doesn't treat it specially, in fact it doesn't even know how to treat
any files specially, that's too high-level for it to understand.

Yousuf Khan


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In fact, I haven't said anything in this thread
to even suggest that my beliefs are unchangeable.
All of the posturing and chest thumping has come
from others, like this drunk...

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On 17/01/2013 4:59 PM, John Doe wrote:
Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

Now you're just being a troll, believe what you want, I think you'll
find nobody will respond any further to you.

Yousuf Khan