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  #16  
Old January 20th 14, 02:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:21:45 -0500, Leala wrote:

On 20-Jan-2014 00:20, Ron wrote:
On 1/19/2014 3:12 PM, Tony wrote:

This sig file was compiled via my journeys through usenet


Your sig id too long and moronic.


In Thunderbird I use the add-on "Quote colors" which has an option:
"Don't display signatures" works great.
No more moronic sigs to look at.


But my sig says 'GNU/Linux is Communism' and I *WANT* you to see it.
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  #17  
Old January 20th 14, 05:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 2014-01-20, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/20/2014 12:23 AM, Ron wrote:
You? If so, why did you make changes to Windows 8 to make it "Windows
7ish"?

It is a thing of the past as it is no longer in production, Supported
Yes production No.

It like Windows XP will stop being support in a couple of years. Like
XP it will be in use for many years in the future


I'm NOT buying a new 2 terabyte USB3 hard drive just to run win 8.x as
the current drive is 1 1/2 yrs old.

Prefer that ms fixes their usb3 drivers for usb3 that they dictated
for win8.x.
  #18  
Old January 20th 14, 06:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 22:07:26 -0500, Wolf Kirchmeir
wrote:

On 2014-01-19 8:48 PM, migrante wrote:


Win 8 would be perfect if it had option to get old start menu and option
to boot system directly to desktop.


Start8 + ModernMix (about $10) will do that,




Yes, but ModernMix (although I also like it) isn't necessary for that.
Start8 alone is $4.99, and it comes with a 30-day free trial.


plus give you as many
windows as you want (including the apps).

Classic Shell (free) will do that too.



Yes. Classic Shell is a good choice, but I like Start8 even better
(don't ask me why; I can't remember all the details of Classic Shell)
and I think it's worth the very low cost.

  #19  
Old January 20th 14, 06:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:57:20 -0500, "Silver Slimer"
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:48:13 -0500, migrante wrote:

Win 8 would be perfect if it had option to get old start menu and option
to boot system directly to desktop.


Windows 8 didn't have it but Windows 8.1 does.




It does *not* That "old start menu" is not there in 8.1. A third-party
program is required to get it.

  #20  
Old January 20th 14, 07:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Leala" wrote in message ...
On 20-Jan-2014 00:20, Ron wrote:
On 1/19/2014 3:12 PM, Tony wrote:

This sig file was compiled via my journeys through usenet


Your sig id too long and moronic.


In Thunderbird I use the add-on "Quote colors" which has an option:
"Don't display signatures" works great.
No more moronic sigs to look at.


What a good idea. Time I gave Thunderbird another try.


  #21  
Old January 20th 14, 07:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/20/2014 8:19 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/20/2014 12:23 AM, Ron wrote:
You? If so, why did you make changes to Windows 8 to make it "Windows
7ish"?

It is a thing of the past as it is no longer in production, Supported
Yes production No.

It like Windows XP will stop being support in a couple of years. Like
XP it will be in use for many years in the future


That doesn't mean that Windows 7 is "a thing of the past". Especially
when you can still walk into your local computer store and purchase an
OEM copy. And it's not a couple of years. Extended support is until 2020.


Wanna talk about a "thing of the past" check out this article on Windows
XP and ATMs.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...rom-windows-xp
  #22  
Old January 20th 14, 07:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/20/2014 2:20 PM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 20-Jan-2014 00:20, Ron wrote:
On 1/19/2014 3:12 PM, Tony wrote:

This sig file was compiled via my journeys through usenet

Your sig id too long and moronic.


In Thunderbird I use the add-on "Quote colors" which has an option:
"Don't display signatures" works great.
No more moronic sigs to look at.


What a good idea. Time I gave Thunderbird another try.


I just tried it and "quote colors" doesn't work on the latest version of
TB. Damn.

  #23  
Old January 20th 14, 07:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:47:31 -0500, Ken Blake, MVP
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:57:20 -0500, "Silver Slimer"
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:48:13 -0500, migrante
wrote:

Win 8 would be perfect if it had option to get old start menu and

option
to boot system directly to desktop.


Windows 8 didn't have it but Windows 8.1 does.


It does *not* That "old start menu" is not there in 8.1. A third-party
program is required to get it.


No, the start menu is not available in its classic form but it is indeed
there as is the boot-to-desktop option. The options available in Windows
8.1 allow you to turn the Start menu into a hybrid of Metro and the old
Start menu which I consider good enough.
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GNU/Linux is Communism
The average GNU/Linux user:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/38314453.jpg

"That is incorrect. GNU/Linux is worse then communism because at least in
a communist country you would be paid a wage for your work. In GNU/Linux
your work helps some fat cat on wall street earn bigger dividends in his
stock portfolio because nobody had to pay for your work.

Of course, Linus is a big winner since he earns millions of dollars on the
sucker programmers free labor." - Michael Bachmann
  #24  
Old January 20th 14, 07:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 20-Jan-2014 14:23, Ron wrote:
On 1/20/2014 2:20 PM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 20-Jan-2014 00:20, Ron wrote:
On 1/19/2014 3:12 PM, Tony wrote:

This sig file was compiled via my journeys through usenet

Your sig id too long and moronic.


In Thunderbird I use the add-on "Quote colors" which has an option:
"Don't display signatures" works great.
No more moronic sigs to look at.


What a good idea. Time I gave Thunderbird another try.


I just tried it and "quote colors" doesn't work on the latest version of
TB. Damn.


TB 27.0 beta here and Quote colors is working fine.
--
Leala.
  #25  
Old January 20th 14, 07:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/20/2014 2:28 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Jan-2014 14:23, Ron wrote:
On 1/20/2014 2:20 PM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 20-Jan-2014 00:20, Ron wrote:
On 1/19/2014 3:12 PM, Tony wrote:

This sig file was compiled via my journeys through usenet

Your sig id too long and moronic.


In Thunderbird I use the add-on "Quote colors" which has an option:
"Don't display signatures" works great.
No more moronic sigs to look at.


What a good idea. Time I gave Thunderbird another try.


I just tried it and "quote colors" doesn't work on the latest version of
TB. Damn.


TB 27.0 beta here and Quote colors is working fine.


Well, I'm running 24.2. Don't like beta versions. The search box for
add-ons doesn't bring it up. So I downloaded it and tried to install it
and it says it's not compatible.
  #26  
Old January 20th 14, 08:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 20-Jan-2014 14:45, Ron wrote:
On 1/20/2014 2:28 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Jan-2014 14:23, Ron wrote:
On 1/20/2014 2:20 PM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 20-Jan-2014 00:20, Ron wrote:
On 1/19/2014 3:12 PM, Tony wrote:

This sig file was compiled via my journeys through usenet

Your sig id too long and moronic.


In Thunderbird I use the add-on "Quote colors" which has an option:
"Don't display signatures" works great.
No more moronic sigs to look at.


What a good idea. Time I gave Thunderbird another try.


I just tried it and "quote colors" doesn't work on the latest version of
TB. Damn.


TB 27.0 beta here and Quote colors is working fine.


Well, I'm running 24.2. Don't like beta versions. The search box for
add-ons doesn't bring it up. So I downloaded it and tried to install it
and it says it's not compatible.


You are right it has been so long that I forgot that you have to modify
the install.rdf file to make it work.

Open the archive of quotecolors.xpi with winzip or 7-zip or whatever
program you have.

Then open "install.rdf" file with notepad and modify the the thunderbird
maxversion to 99 then save the file and use the install from file option
in thunderbird to install.

The maxversion should look like this:

em:maxVersion99.0.*/em:maxVersion


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  #27  
Old January 20th 14, 08:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:26:04 -0500, "Silver Slimer"
wrote:

Win 8 would be perfect if it had option to get old start menu and
option
to boot system directly to desktop.

Windows 8 didn't have it but Windows 8.1 does.


It does *not* That "old start menu" is not there in 8.1. A third-party
program is required to get it.


No, the start menu is not available in its classic form



Correct, that's what I said: "That 'old start menu' is not there in
8.1."


but it is indeed
there as is the boot-to-desktop option. The options available in Windows
8.1 allow you to turn the Start menu into a hybrid of Metro and the old
Start menu which I consider good enough.



We're all different. You consider it "good enough," but I consider it
far from good enough. That's why I continue to run Start8 with it.

And again, good enough or not, what it is is far from the "old start
menu."

  #28  
Old January 20th 14, 08:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/20/2014 3:15 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Jan-2014 14:45, Ron wrote:
On 1/20/2014 2:28 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Jan-2014 14:23, Ron wrote:
On 1/20/2014 2:20 PM, Dave-UK wrote:

"Leala" wrote in message
...
On 20-Jan-2014 00:20, Ron wrote:
On 1/19/2014 3:12 PM, Tony wrote:

This sig file was compiled via my journeys through usenet

Your sig id too long and moronic.


In Thunderbird I use the add-on "Quote colors" which has an option:
"Don't display signatures" works great.
No more moronic sigs to look at.


What a good idea. Time I gave Thunderbird another try.


I just tried it and "quote colors" doesn't work on the latest
version of
TB. Damn.


TB 27.0 beta here and Quote colors is working fine.


Well, I'm running 24.2. Don't like beta versions. The search box for
add-ons doesn't bring it up. So I downloaded it and tried to install it
and it says it's not compatible.


You are right it has been so long that I forgot that you have to modify
the install.rdf file to make it work.

Open the archive of quotecolors.xpi with winzip or 7-zip or whatever
program you have.

Then open "install.rdf" file with notepad and modify the the thunderbird
maxversion to 99 then save the file and use the install from file option
in thunderbird to install.

The maxversion should look like this:

em:maxVersion99.0.*/em:maxVersion


Thanks! I will give that a try.
  #29  
Old January 20th 14, 08:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:23:57 -0500, Ken Blake, MVP
wrote:

No, the start menu is not available in its classic form


Correct, that's what I said: "That 'old start menu' is not there in
8.1."


If it's absolutely necessary for it to be identical to previous iterations
then no, it's not.

but it is indeed
there as is the boot-to-desktop option. The options available in Windows
8.1 allow you to turn the Start menu into a hybrid of Metro and the old
Start menu which I consider good enough.


We're all different. You consider it "good enough," but I consider it
far from good enough. That's why I continue to run Start8 with it.

And again, good enough or not, what it is is far from the "old start
menu."


Start8 is definitely a good option and I purchased a license for it as a
result of my desire to have a 7-like experience. However, I don't use it:
I find the included options in 8.1 to be, like I said, good enough to
please the general populace. I'm very open-minded when it comes to
interfaces and was able to make the best of even 8 (before 8.1) without
modifications.
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GNU/Linux is Communism
The average GNU/Linux user:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/38314453.jpg

"That is incorrect. GNU/Linux is worse then communism because at least in
a communist country you would be paid a wage for your work. In GNU/Linux
your work helps some fat cat on wall street earn bigger dividends in his
stock portfolio because nobody had to pay for your work.

Of course, Linus is a big winner since he earns millions of dollars on the
sucker programmers free labor." - Michael Bachmann
  #30  
Old January 21st 14, 02:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/20/2014 1:47 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:57:20 -0500, "Silver Slimer"
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:48:13 -0500, migrante wrote:

Win 8 would be perfect if it had option to get old start menu and option
to boot system directly to desktop.


Windows 8 didn't have it but Windows 8.1 does.




It does *not* That "old start menu" is not there in 8.1. A third-party
program is required to get it.

Depending on what you consider on the Old Start Menu. The primary
items on the old start menu were the ability to shut down the computer,
the access to the control menu, and the drive, printers, and network
information.

These are all available by right clicking on the MS Icon in the lower
left corner of the Desktop in Windows 8.1.

What is missing from the MS Icon menu,is the access to the programs
which can all be accessed by right clicking on the MS Icon and accessing
the new Start and App screens. Once you find them in the Start/app
screen you can pin exactly what you use to the desktop tool bar.

In the Desk top toolbar you can right click on any icon and see a list
of currently accessed files etc.

So while as in the traditional Start Menu. All of the information is
just as easy to find from the desktop toolbar and the right click menu
on the MS Icon
 




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