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  #1  
Old December 21st 03, 08:14 AM
Bob Brannon
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Default system folder

I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One I can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find in the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to have to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon



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  #2  
Old December 21st 03, 08:14 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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Default system folder

You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location for the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One I

can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find in the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to have

to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon





  #3  
Old December 21st 03, 08:33 AM
Bob Brannon
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Posts: n/a
Default system folder

Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile associated with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location for the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One I

can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find in the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to have

to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon






  #4  
Old December 21st 03, 08:34 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system folder

Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See Help and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive, folder or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders, you need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties, and you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared Folder in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile associated with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can

create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location for

the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One I

can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find in

the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to have

to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon








  #5  
Old December 21st 03, 08:35 AM
Bob Brannon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system folder

I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See Help and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive, folder or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders, you need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties, and you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared Folder in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile associated with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can

create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location for

the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One I

can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find in

the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to have

to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon









  #6  
Old December 21st 03, 08:37 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system folder

Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed from the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has spaces in it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See Help and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and

uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive, folder or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My

Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders, you need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties, and you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in

Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared Folder in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile associated

with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can

create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new

one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under

Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and

then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location for

the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from

the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add

Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate

icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One I

can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be

some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find in

the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to

have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon











  #7  
Old December 21st 03, 08:41 AM
Bob Brannon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system folder

Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks ago. Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed from the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has spaces in it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See Help and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and

uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive, folder or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My

Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders, you need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties, and you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in

Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared Folder in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile associated

with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can

create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new

one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under

Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and

then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location for

the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from

the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add

Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate

icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One I

can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be

some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find in

the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to

have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon












  #8  
Old December 21st 03, 08:41 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system folder

As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System property.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks ago.

Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed from the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has spaces in

it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Associate Expert
ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the

folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See Help

and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so

that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and

uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive, folder

or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My

Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders, you

need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in

Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties, and

you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the

Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in

Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared Folder

in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile associated

with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename

it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do

that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can

create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new

one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under

Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and

then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location

for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from

the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add

Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer

to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point

to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate

icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a

system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by

simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One

I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be

some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find

in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to

have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
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  #9  
Old December 21st 03, 08:45 AM
Bob Brannon
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Default system folder

I should have thought of the attributes thing as I have done that before but
it has been so long I forgot about it.

Thanks,
Bob


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System property.

--
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks ago.

Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed from the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has spaces in

it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the

folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See Help

and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so

that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and

uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive, folder

or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My

Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders, you

need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in

Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties, and

you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the

Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in

Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared Folder

in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile associated

with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename

it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do

that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You can

create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the new

one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under

Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy, and

then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location

for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user from

the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add

Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local computer

to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point

to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate

icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a

system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by

simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries. One

I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must be

some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find

in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want to

have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
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  #10  
Old December 21st 03, 08:46 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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Posts: n/a
Default system folder

Yep, the command line is often over looked, but it isn't dead yet! G

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I should have thought of the attributes thing as I have done that before

but
it has been so long I forgot about it.

Thanks,
Bob


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System

property.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks ago.

Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed from

the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has spaces in

it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the

folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See Help

and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so

that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and

uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive, folder

or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a

Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or

user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My

Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and

selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders, you

need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in

Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties, and

you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the

Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in

Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared

Folder
in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile

associated
with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to rename

it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do

that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You

can
create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in

the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the

new
one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under

Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy,

and
then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the location

for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user

from
the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in Add

Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local

computer
to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point

to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate

icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a

system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by

simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries.

One
I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must

be
some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could find

in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want

to
have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon

















  #11  
Old December 21st 03, 08:53 AM
Bob Brannon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system folder

Doug,

I tried all of what you suggested, while in safe mode, and I still get a
response that the files are in use. So, I don't know what the problem may
be or what to do about it. Any other suggestions?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob,

Boot the computer into Safe Mode and delete the files from there. That
should prevent them from being 'in use'.

Additionally, if you still get the same error, open a Command Prompt window,
and leave it open. Then open Task Manager and locate the Explorer.exe
process. Highlight it and end the process. Delete the files from the
Command Prompt window. Then, in Task Manager, go to New, Task and enter
EXPLORER.EXE to restart the shell.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Well I thought that would work but it didn't. There are apparently files
being used in that directory that keep me from deleting it using the

"rmdir"
command. These are an "index.dat" and "user.dat" file in the "local
settings" and "temp internet file" subfolders. I don't understand this
because that user is gone so why would those files still be getting used?


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Yep, the command line is often over looked, but it isn't dead yet! G

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I should have thought of the attributes thing as I have done that before

but
it has been so long I forgot about it.

Thanks,
Bob


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then

you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System

property.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks ago.

Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed from

the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has spaces

in
it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the

folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See

Help
and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder so

that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View and
uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive,

folder
or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a

Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name or

user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My
Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and

selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders,

you
need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in

Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties,

and
you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the

Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions in
Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files

and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared

Folder
in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile

associated
with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to

rename
it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to do

that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name. You

can
create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear in

the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to the

new
one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and under
Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to copy,

and
then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the

location
for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new user

from
the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in

Add
Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local

computer
to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start,

point
to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the

appropriate
icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename a

system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be by

simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one tries.

One
I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There must

be
some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could

find
in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't want

to
have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon





















  #12  
Old December 21st 03, 08:54 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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Posts: n/a
Default system folder

The only other suggestion is Recovery Console. You'll need to make a change
in the Group Policy Editor (GPEDIT.MSC) to allow access to the Documents and
Settings folder.

Click Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC Go to:

Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies,
Security Options

Look in the right pane for Recovery Console: Allow floppy copy and access
to all drives and folders. Double click this setting and set it to Enabled.
This will give you access to the Documents and Settings folder and its
contents. You should be able to delete the files from the Recovery Console
command prompt. Help and Support has a full list of the Recovery Console
commands that are available.

--
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I tried all of what you suggested, while in safe mode, and I still get a
response that the files are in use. So, I don't know what the problem may
be or what to do about it. Any other suggestions?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob,

Boot the computer into Safe Mode and delete the files from there. That
should prevent them from being 'in use'.

Additionally, if you still get the same error, open a Command Prompt

window,
and leave it open. Then open Task Manager and locate the Explorer.exe
process. Highlight it and end the process. Delete the files from the
Command Prompt window. Then, in Task Manager, go to New, Task and enter
EXPLORER.EXE to restart the shell.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Well I thought that would work but it didn't. There are apparently

files
being used in that directory that keep me from deleting it using the

"rmdir"
command. These are an "index.dat" and "user.dat" file in the "local
settings" and "temp internet file" subfolders. I don't understand this
because that user is gone so why would those files still be getting

used?


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Yep, the command line is often over looked, but it isn't dead yet! G

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I should have thought of the attributes thing as I have done that

before
but
it has been so long I forgot about it.

Thanks,
Bob


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then

you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System

property.

--
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks

ago.
Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed

from
the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open

a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has

spaces
in
it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're

removing.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the
folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be

deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See

Help
and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder

so
that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View

and
uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive,

folder
or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a

Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name

or
user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My
Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and

selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders,

you
need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in
Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties,

and
you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the
Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions

in
Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files

and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared

Folder
in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile

associated
with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to

rename
it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to

do
that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name.

You
can
create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear

in
the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to

the
new
one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and

under
Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to

copy,
and
then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the

location
for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new

user
from
the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in

Add
Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local

computer
to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start,

point
to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the

appropriate
icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged

into.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename

a
system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be

by
simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one

tries.
One
I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There

must
be
some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could

find
in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't

want
to
have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
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  #13  
Old December 21st 03, 08:55 AM
Bob Brannon
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Default system folder

Doug,

Before I try this I thought I would pass along some more info. I clicked on
Help about in this console and noticed that the EULA is registered to the
user I am trying to delete in Documents and settings. I thought this would
have been fixed when I went into system properties and changed the name of
the computer. This is a stand-alone PC. Would this be having some
influence we have not considered?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
The only other suggestion is Recovery Console. You'll need to make a change
in the Group Policy Editor (GPEDIT.MSC) to allow access to the Documents and
Settings folder.

Click Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC Go to:

Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies,
Security Options

Look in the right pane for Recovery Console: Allow floppy copy and access
to all drives and folders. Double click this setting and set it to Enabled.
This will give you access to the Documents and Settings folder and its
contents. You should be able to delete the files from the Recovery Console
command prompt. Help and Support has a full list of the Recovery Console
commands that are available.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I tried all of what you suggested, while in safe mode, and I still get a
response that the files are in use. So, I don't know what the problem may
be or what to do about it. Any other suggestions?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob,

Boot the computer into Safe Mode and delete the files from there. That
should prevent them from being 'in use'.

Additionally, if you still get the same error, open a Command Prompt

window,
and leave it open. Then open Task Manager and locate the Explorer.exe
process. Highlight it and end the process. Delete the files from the
Command Prompt window. Then, in Task Manager, go to New, Task and enter
EXPLORER.EXE to restart the shell.

--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Well I thought that would work but it didn't. There are apparently

files
being used in that directory that keep me from deleting it using the

"rmdir"
command. These are an "index.dat" and "user.dat" file in the "local
settings" and "temp internet file" subfolders. I don't understand this
because that user is gone so why would those files still be getting

used?


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Yep, the command line is often over looked, but it isn't dead yet! G

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I should have thought of the attributes thing as I have done that

before
but
it has been so long I forgot about it.

Thanks,
Bob


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then

you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System

property.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks

ago.
Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed

from
the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are "system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need, open

a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has

spaces
in
it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're

removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete the
folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be

deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See

Help
and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the folder

so
that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View

and
uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive,

folder
or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a

Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name

or
user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under My
Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and

selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other folders,

you
need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in
Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in Properties,

and
you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the
Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions

in
Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for Files

and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared

Folder
in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile

associated
with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to

rename
it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way to

do
that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name.

You
can
create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to appear

in
the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to

the
new
one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and

under
Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to

copy,
and
then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the

location
for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new

user
from
the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear in

Add
Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local

computer
to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start,

point
to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the

appropriate
icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged

into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to rename

a
system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be

by
simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one

tries.
One
I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There

must
be
some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I could

find
in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't

want
to
have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

--
Bob Brannon
























  #14  
Old December 21st 03, 08:55 AM
Doug Knox MS-MVP
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Posts: n/a
Default system folder

Not that I'm aware of. Changing the computer name doesn't change the
information about who XP is licensed to. That's just a simple registry
setting that's easily changed.

www.dougknox.com, Win XP Utilities, Change Registered Owner and
Organization.

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

Before I try this I thought I would pass along some more info. I clicked

on
Help about in this console and noticed that the EULA is registered to the
user I am trying to delete in Documents and settings. I thought this

would
have been fixed when I went into system properties and changed the name of
the computer. This is a stand-alone PC. Would this be having some
influence we have not considered?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
The only other suggestion is Recovery Console. You'll need to make a

change
in the Group Policy Editor (GPEDIT.MSC) to allow access to the Documents

and
Settings folder.

Click Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC Go to:

Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local

Policies,
Security Options

Look in the right pane for Recovery Console: Allow floppy copy and access
to all drives and folders. Double click this setting and set it to

Enabled.
This will give you access to the Documents and Settings folder and its
contents. You should be able to delete the files from the Recovery

Console
command prompt. Help and Support has a full list of the Recovery Console
commands that are available.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I tried all of what you suggested, while in safe mode, and I still get a
response that the files are in use. So, I don't know what the problem

may
be or what to do about it. Any other suggestions?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob,

Boot the computer into Safe Mode and delete the files from there. That
should prevent them from being 'in use'.

Additionally, if you still get the same error, open a Command Prompt

window,
and leave it open. Then open Task Manager and locate the Explorer.exe
process. Highlight it and end the process. Delete the files from the
Command Prompt window. Then, in Task Manager, go to New, Task and enter
EXPLORER.EXE to restart the shell.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Well I thought that would work but it didn't. There are apparently

files
being used in that directory that keep me from deleting it using the

"rmdir"
command. These are an "index.dat" and "user.dat" file in the "local
settings" and "temp internet file" subfolders. I don't understand

this
because that user is gone so why would those files still be getting

used?


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Yep, the command line is often over looked, but it isn't dead yet! G

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I should have thought of the attributes thing as I have done that

before
but
it has been so long I forgot about it.

Thanks,
Bob


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then

you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System
property.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks

ago.
Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed

from
the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are

"system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need,

open
a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has

spaces
in
it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're

removing.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete

the
folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be

deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See

Help
and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the

folder
so
that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View

and
uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive,

folder
or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a
Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name

or
user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under

My
Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and
selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other

folders,
you
need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in
Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in

Properties,
and
you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the
Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions

in
Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for

Files
and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared
Folder
in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile
associated
with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to

rename
it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way

to
do
that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name.

You
can
create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to

appear
in
the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to

the
new
one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and

under
Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to

copy,
and
then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the

location
for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new

user
from
the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear

in
Add
Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your

computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local
computer
to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start,

point
to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the

appropriate
icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged

into.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to

rename
a
system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be

by
simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one

tries.
One
I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There

must
be
some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I

could
find
in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't

want
to
have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

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Old December 21st 03, 09:08 AM
Bob Brannon
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Default system folder

I installed the recovery console but when I try to startup in it it asks me
for a password. I have never assigned a password to an administrator
account, so what do I do?


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Not that I'm aware of. Changing the computer name doesn't change the
information about who XP is licensed to. That's just a simple registry
setting that's easily changed.

www.dougknox.com, Win XP Utilities, Change Registered Owner and
Organization.

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
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Doug,

Before I try this I thought I would pass along some more info. I clicked

on
Help about in this console and noticed that the EULA is registered to the
user I am trying to delete in Documents and settings. I thought this

would
have been fixed when I went into system properties and changed the name of
the computer. This is a stand-alone PC. Would this be having some
influence we have not considered?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
The only other suggestion is Recovery Console. You'll need to make a

change
in the Group Policy Editor (GPEDIT.MSC) to allow access to the Documents

and
Settings folder.

Click Start, Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC Go to:

Computer Configuration, Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local

Policies,
Security Options

Look in the right pane for Recovery Console: Allow floppy copy and access
to all drives and folders. Double click this setting and set it to

Enabled.
This will give you access to the Documents and Settings folder and its
contents. You should be able to delete the files from the Recovery

Console
command prompt. Help and Support has a full list of the Recovery Console
commands that are available.

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I tried all of what you suggested, while in safe mode, and I still get a
response that the files are in use. So, I don't know what the problem

may
be or what to do about it. Any other suggestions?

Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob,

Boot the computer into Safe Mode and delete the files from there. That
should prevent them from being 'in use'.

Additionally, if you still get the same error, open a Command Prompt

window,
and leave it open. Then open Task Manager and locate the Explorer.exe
process. Highlight it and end the process. Delete the files from the
Command Prompt window. Then, in Task Manager, go to New, Task and enter
EXPLORER.EXE to restart the shell.

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Well I thought that would work but it didn't. There are apparently

files
being used in that directory that keep me from deleting it using the

"rmdir"
command. These are an "index.dat" and "user.dat" file in the "local
settings" and "temp internet file" subfolders. I don't understand

this
because that user is gone so why would those files still be getting

used?


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Yep, the command line is often over looked, but it isn't dead yet! G

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
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I should have thought of the attributes thing as I have done that

before
but
it has been so long I forgot about it.

Thanks,
Bob


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
As long as it is the folder for the account that you removed, then

you're
safe in deleting it. Use the ATTRIB command to remove the System
property.

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Doug,

I think it may be, because I did remove an account several weeks

ago.
Does
that change what I should do?

Thanks,
Bob

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Bob, first is this folder related to an account that you removed

from
the
system? If not, what is the name of the folder. There are

"system"
accounts, that exist for various purposes.

If you're absolutely sure that this is a folder you don't need,

open
a
Command Prompt window, and enter:

CD \Documents and Settings

Then type in ATTRIB -S foldername

Where folder name is the actual name of the folder. If it has

spaces
in
it,
put the folder name in quotes.

Again, only do this if you're absolutely sure of what you're

removing.

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
I have all permissions set to "full control" and cannot delete

the
folder.
I get a message saying it is a system folder and cannot be

deleted.


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
Its still a System folder, and you don't have access to it. See

Help
and
Support and search for "take ownership"

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=308421

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the permissions on the

folder
so
that
you can delete it.

XP PRO: In Windows Explorer, go to Tools, Folder Options, View

and
uncheck
Use Simple File Sharing. Now, when you right click on a drive,

folder
or
file (on an NTFS partition) and select Properties, you'll see a
Security
tab. Here you can assign or deny permissions based on user name

or
user
group membership.

XP Home: By default, you can only make files and folders under

My
Documents
"private". This is done by right clicking a folder or file and
selecting
Properties, Sharing. To change the permissions on other

folders,
you
need
to boot the computer to Safe Mode and log in on the built in
Administrator
account. In this mode, you'll see the Security tab in

Properties,
and
you
can assign permissions based on user name or group membership.

How Do I Get the Security Tab in Properties - XP Home (makes the
Security
tab appear outside of Safe Mode)
http://www.dougknox.com, Win XP Tips section

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions

in
Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;308418

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove Special Permissions for

Files
and
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;308419

HOW TO: Disable Simplified Sharing and Password-Protect a Shared
Folder
in
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;307874


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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
...
Here's the thing, this folder does not have a user profile
associated
with
it. So there is nothing to copy. That is why I just want to

rename
it.
Alternatively I would like to delete it but can't find a way

to
do
that
either. Any other ideas?

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote in message
...
You cannot rename the folder that contains the user's name.

You
can
create
a new profile, with the user name the way you want it to

appear
in
the
user's folder. Then copy the old user account information to

the
new
one.

Copy a User Profile:

Open System in Control Panel. On the User Profiles tab, and

under
Profiles
stored on this computer, click the user profile you want to

copy,
and
then
click Copy To.

In the Copy To dialog box, under Copy profile to, type the

location
for
the
new profile, or click Browse to select the path.
Click Change to open the Choose User dialog box, click a new

user
from
the
Names list, and then click Add. The new user name will appear

in
Add
Name.
Click OK to add the user as a new user profile on your

computer.

Note: You must be logged on as an administrator to the local
computer
to
copy user profiles. To open a Control Panel item, click Start,

point
to
Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the

appropriate
icon.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;811151
How to Copy User Data to a New User Profile

Note: You cannot copy to or from the account you are logged

into.

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"Bob Brannon" wrote in message
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I am using XP Professional. Can anyone tell me how to

rename
a
system
folder in "C:\Documents and Settings\"? Some of them can be

by
simply
renaming. Others can't and give an error message if one

tries.
One
I
can't
do by the simple method is the one I need to change. There

must
be
some
way, in the registry or something? I have tried what I

could
find
in
the
registry but it didn't work, so I changed it back. I don't

want
to
have
to
reinstall to create a new one or override an existing.

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