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O.T. winston - not the decoded nym in your From header
On 12/6/2017 9:51 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Seamonkey is screwing up your nym in the From header Everything views fine at this end in SeaMonkey, TBird, and WLM. Only difference is new device but all above software installed with default settings. This one sent in TBird. Maybe its not SeaMonkey. Or is it 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 ? -- .....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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O.T. winston - not the decoded nym in your From header
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:37:38 -0700, ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ
wrote: On 12/6/2017 9:51 PM, VanguardLH wrote: Seamonkey is screwing up your nym in the From header Everything views fine at this end in SeaMonkey, TBird, and WLM. Only difference is new device but all above software installed with default settings. This one sent in TBird. Maybe its not SeaMonkey. Or is it 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 ? Using an older version of Agent, I see exactly what VLH described. |
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O.T. winston - not the decoded nym in your From header
Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:37:38 -0700, ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: On 12/6/2017 9:51 PM, VanguardLH wrote: Seamonkey is screwing up your nym in the From header Everything views fine at this end in SeaMonkey, TBird, and WLM. Only difference is new device but all above software installed with default settings. This one sent in TBird. Maybe its not SeaMonkey. Or is it 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 ? Using an older version of Agent, I see exactly what VLH described. Thanks As suspected, then it's not 'SeaMonkey is screwing up your nym in the From header' Any news client would do the same with the identical newsgroup server's From field data entry. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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O.T. winston - not the decoded nym in your From header
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 23:01:28 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
wrote: Char Jackson wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 23:37:38 -0700, ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: On 12/6/2017 9:51 PM, VanguardLH wrote: Seamonkey is screwing up your nym in the From header Everything views fine at this end in SeaMonkey, TBird, and WLM. Only difference is new device but all above software installed with default settings. This one sent in TBird. Maybe its not SeaMonkey. Or is it 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 ? Using an older version of Agent, I see exactly what VLH described. Thanks As suspected, then it's not 'SeaMonkey is screwing up your nym in the From header' Any news client would do the same with the identical newsgroup server's From field data entry. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 It's also messed up in your sig, quoted just above. I'm not sure what you're doing differently but it wasn't always this way. I guess any of us could scroll back and see exactly when it changed. |
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O.T. winston - not the decoded nym in your From header
Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 23:01:28 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: Any news client would do the same with the identical newsgroup server's From field data entry. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 It's also messed up in your sig, quoted just above. I'm not sure what you're doing differently but it wasn't always this way. I guess any of us could scroll back and see exactly when it changed. Correct, it wasn't always this way. When I setup this new laptop/device I just used the same signature file characters file for the sig and From field for all news servers that is/was used in my Microsoft Answers MSA/MVP profile. TBird just imported it from SeaMonkey when setup on this new i7 8th Gen device. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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O.T. winston - not the decoded nym in your From header
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 23:01:28 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: Any news client would do the same with the identical newsgroup server's From field data entry. -- ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 It's also messed up in your sig, quoted just above. I'm not sure what you're doing differently but it wasn't always this way. I guess any of us could scroll back and see exactly when it changed. Correct, it wasn't always this way. When I setup this new laptop/device I just used the same signature file characters file for the sig and From field for all news servers that is/was used in my Microsoft Answers MSA/MVP profile. TBird just imported it from SeaMonkey when setup on this new i7 8th Gen device. p.s...Now that we've all hijacked this thread(Subject name changed) hopefully 'T' realizes that no 'upgrade' version of Windows 10 is available for sale to his customers - full version/full pricing etc. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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home to pro?
On 12/06/2017 05:00 PM, ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
T wrote: T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? I am hoping my distributors have something I can sell. I am not real trusting having my customer give M$ their credit card numbers. Upgrade 'ware' for Office and Windows ceased years ago. All versions released are full versions and priced accordingly. Windows 8.0 was the last 'upgrade' Windows version with upgrade pricing. Â*Windows 8.1 and later is all full version/full price ware. - Full version can be used to upgrade an existing device. Office 2010 was the last upgrade 'Office' version with upgrade pricing. Â*- Note: For a short period of time upgrade pricing was available(circa 2012) for Office 2010 to 2013 with qualification tied to the point in time Office 2010 was purchased(i.e. it was a guarantee to upgrade to 2013 if 2010 was purchased within a short period of time prior to 2013 release). Â*- Full can be used to upgrade 2013, but not 2010 or earlier. Those earlier versions must be uninstalled. Ya. My vendors confirmed that. Yo hae to go through the M$ store. It is $99 to upgrade. You get RDP support, among other things, for those that want to remote in from home. I am really not comfortable giving my customer's credit card numbers to M$. |
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home to pro?
On 12/06/2017 12:53 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Doomsdrzej wrote: T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? You can upgrade directly within the System Settings - System - About. As far as I know, it's still about $200. Its biggest feature is the fact that it allows you to encrypt your hard disk but depending on who you believe, this encryption already has backdoors and is therefore utterly worthless. Besides, you can install Veracrypt which will do the same thing for nothing. Biggest? Depends on what the user/admin is looking for. You describe a feature. Presumably you are talking about Bitlocker which itself is is as secure as Veracrypt (a variant of TrueCrypt). The software got patched LONG AGO. It is the hardware (TPM chips) that had a vulnerability but that also got fixed. Please keep current on your FUD. o http://www.securityweek.com/research...tlocker-bypass "bypassed on systems that do not have the latest patches". Gee, what might be the solution there and the same as with every other security update? Duh! The article is dated November 18, 2015 (TWO YEARS AGO) but the patch had already showed up on Nov 2015 Patch Tuesday. o https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ability-in-tpm https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/127650 What's the solution? Yeah, update the firmware. Duh! If you are using Bitlocker then you should be keeping up with the news. After all, either you are a sysadmin in a company or you choose to be an admin of your own PC so you're the one supposed to be knowledgeable. Doubtful that anyone looking at going from Home to Pro really cares about Bitlocker if they weren't using it before or already employed an alternative. Bitlocker can incorporate hardware, Veracrypt cannot. Home editions cannot join a domain. A SOHO might decide they want to go with a domain, add a server, and then want their workstations added to the domain. Can do that with Pro, not with Home. Also, no group/local policy editor in Home editions. You might figure out which registry entries match which policies but that only works on simple policies. Some policies (e.g., Software Restriction Policies) generate a unique hash when they are created and you won't be able to do that with the registry editor. There are templates you can add to the policy store for a myriad of settings and control, often regarding specific software. Yeah, try adding those with regedit. Items in Pro that are missing in Home edition: - Windows Information Protection (http://tinyurl.com/ya3vnxoc) - Bitlocker (you mentioned but not by name, alternatives available). - Group policy (noted above). - Assigned Access (http://tinyurl.com/yaobzk6e) - Dynamic Provisioning (http://tinyurl.com/y9gd2pzk) - Shared PC Configuration (http://tinyurl.com/yak2hmt3) - Join a domain (not possible with Home editions without hacking) - Remote Desktop (alternatives available, T already knows some) - Client Hyper-V (other virtualization available but may not be compatible with Hyper-V deployed elsewhere in the organization). - and more. T never stated if this was for a standalone PC or used in a business and why they (not T) feels the need to go to the Pro edition. From T's past descriptions of his customers, they're boobs so the Pro version will offer them no advantage, be beyond their abilities to administer, and just waste money. It is a new customer and Pro makes things easier on me, which saves them billable hours. Classic Shell does that too. Also RDP is wonderful for those that want to remote in, including me. Sorry for giving you the misimpression that my customers are all "boobs". They vary all across the board. The ones that are "boobs" can be challenging to get something going for them that they can actually understand and use -- that is why I make the medium sized bucks. |
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home to pro?
On 12/06/2017 12:53 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Items in Pro that are missing in Home edition: - Windows Information Protection (http://tinyurl.com/ya3vnxoc) - Bitlocker (you mentioned but not by name, alternatives available). - Group policy (noted above). - Assigned Access (http://tinyurl.com/yaobzk6e) - Dynamic Provisioning (http://tinyurl.com/y9gd2pzk) - Shared PC Configuration (http://tinyurl.com/yak2hmt3) - Join a domain (not possible with Home editions without hacking) - Remote Desktop (alternatives available, T already knows some) - Client Hyper-V (other virtualization available but may not be compatible with Hyper-V deployed elsewhere in the organization). - and more. I stole your list. Thank you! |
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home to pro?
T wrote:
On 12/06/2017 05:00 PM, ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: T wrote: T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? I am hoping my distributors have something I can sell. I am not real trusting having my customer give M$ their credit card numbers. Upgrade 'ware' for Office and Windows ceased years ago. All versions released are full versions and priced accordingly. Windows 8.0 was the last 'upgrade' Windows version with upgrade pricing. Windows 8.1 and later is all full version/full price ware. - Full version can be used to upgrade an existing device. Office 2010 was the last upgrade 'Office' version with upgrade pricing. - Note: For a short period of time upgrade pricing was available(circa 2012) for Office 2010 to 2013 with qualification tied to the point in time Office 2010 was purchased(i.e. it was a guarantee to upgrade to 2013 if 2010 was purchased within a short period of time prior to 2013 release). - Full can be used to upgrade 2013, but not 2010 or earlier. Those earlier versions must be uninstalled. Ya. My vendors confirmed that. Yo hae to go through the M$ store. It is $99 to upgrade. You get RDP support, among other things, for those that want to remote in from home. I am really not comfortable giving my customer's credit card numbers to M$. Not too many other choices since the upgrade when purchased($99), iirc requires the entry of purchasers MSA unlike the other option to enter a previous purchased or provided(by OEM, Builder, Microsoft) product key. Thus the only remaining option would appear to be provider explicit instructions for the user to do it themselves(to avoid you having to give MSFT your customer's credit card numbers). Maybe you can be like 'Doc' on 'Gunsmoke' and make house calls. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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