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Hi All,
Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? Many thanks, -T |
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T wrote:
Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? StartSettingsSystemAboutChangeProductKeyOrUpgr adeGoToStore |
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On 12/06/2017 01:23 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? StartSettingsSystemAboutChangeProductKeyOrUpgr adeGoToStore Thank you! I am hoping my distributors have something I can sell. I am not real trusting having my customer give M$ their credit card numbers. |
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 01:17:01 -0800, T wrote:
Hi All, Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? Many thanks, -T You can upgrade directly within the System Settings - System - About. As far as I know, it's still about $200. Its biggest feature is the fact that it allows you to encrypt your hard disk but depending on who you believe, this encryption already has backdoors and is therefore utterly worthless. Besides, you can install Veracrypt which will do the same thing for nothing. |
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T wrote:
On 12/06/2017 01:23 AM, Andy Burns wrote: T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? StartSettingsSystemAboutChangeProductKeyOrUpgr adeGoToStore Thank you! I am hoping my distributors have something I can sell. I am not real trusting having my customer give M$ their credit card numbers. The future is electronic, that's for sure. Lots of keys stored in accounts and such. Very little in the way of physical materials. I'm kinda shocked to see a "COA" in this article, in a picture. I thought COA stickers were gone for good. https://www.groovypost.com/howto/fin...0-product-key/ Paul |
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 09:13:21 -0500, Wolf K
wrote: On 2017-12-06 08:16, Doomsdrzej wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 01:17:01 -0800, T wrote: Hi All, Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? Many thanks, -T You can upgrade directly within the System Settings - System - About. As far as I know, it's still about $200. Its biggest feature is the fact that it allows you to encrypt your hard disk but depending on who you believe, this encryption already has backdoors and is therefore utterly worthless. Besides, you can install Veracrypt which will do the same thing for nothing. Besides, the UK wants to make those backdoors (and key surrender) mandatory, so that had hats can't hide from the police and the spy catchers. Ramp up your paranoia, people! Had the country not decided that bringing in millions of life-long welfare recipients who are simultaneously terrorists was somehow a benefit to the nation, they wouldn't feel the need to surveil eveyone. |
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On 12/6/2017 5:17 PM, T wrote:
Hi All, Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? You are supposed to buy the Win 10 Pro Upgrade Edition, no discount I believe. Call or email Micro$oft to confirm. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 11:44:13 -0500, Wolf K
wrote: On 2017-12-06 11:04, Doomsdrzej wrote: Had the country not decided that bringing in millions of life-long welfare recipients who are simultaneously terrorists was somehow a benefit to the nation, they wouldn't feel the need to surveil eveyone. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/05/liberty_ipa/ In other words, you're confirming that what I said is correct. Thank you, liberal idiot. |
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Doomsdrzej wrote:
T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? You can upgrade directly within the System Settings - System - About. As far as I know, it's still about $200. Its biggest feature is the fact that it allows you to encrypt your hard disk but depending on who you believe, this encryption already has backdoors and is therefore utterly worthless. Besides, you can install Veracrypt which will do the same thing for nothing. Biggest? Depends on what the user/admin is looking for. You describe a feature. Presumably you are talking about Bitlocker which itself is is as secure as Veracrypt (a variant of TrueCrypt). The software got patched LONG AGO. It is the hardware (TPM chips) that had a vulnerability but that also got fixed. Please keep current on your FUD. o http://www.securityweek.com/research...tlocker-bypass "bypassed on systems that do not have the latest patches". Gee, what might be the solution there and the same as with every other security update? Duh! The article is dated November 18, 2015 (TWO YEARS AGO) but the patch had already showed up on Nov 2015 Patch Tuesday. o https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ability-in-tpm https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/127650 What's the solution? Yeah, update the firmware. Duh! If you are using Bitlocker then you should be keeping up with the news. After all, either you are a sysadmin in a company or you choose to be an admin of your own PC so you're the one supposed to be knowledgeable. Doubtful that anyone looking at going from Home to Pro really cares about Bitlocker if they weren't using it before or already employed an alternative. Bitlocker can incorporate hardware, Veracrypt cannot. Home editions cannot join a domain. A SOHO might decide they want to go with a domain, add a server, and then want their workstations added to the domain. Can do that with Pro, not with Home. Also, no group/local policy editor in Home editions. You might figure out which registry entries match which policies but that only works on simple policies. Some policies (e.g., Software Restriction Policies) generate a unique hash when they are created and you won't be able to do that with the registry editor. There are templates you can add to the policy store for a myriad of settings and control, often regarding specific software. Yeah, try adding those with regedit. Items in Pro that are missing in Home edition: - Windows Information Protection (http://tinyurl.com/ya3vnxoc) - Bitlocker (you mentioned but not by name, alternatives available). - Group policy (noted above). - Assigned Access (http://tinyurl.com/yaobzk6e) - Dynamic Provisioning (http://tinyurl.com/y9gd2pzk) - Shared PC Configuration (http://tinyurl.com/yak2hmt3) - Join a domain (not possible with Home editions without hacking) - Remote Desktop (alternatives available, T already knows some) - Client Hyper-V (other virtualization available but may not be compatible with Hyper-V deployed elsewhere in the organization). - and more. T never stated if this was for a standalone PC or used in a business and why they (not T) feels the need to go to the Pro edition. From T's past descriptions of his customers, they're boobs so the Pro version will offer them no advantage, be beyond their abilities to administer, and just waste money. |
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 14:53:38 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Doomsdrzej wrote: T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? You can upgrade directly within the System Settings - System - About. As far as I know, it's still about $200. Its biggest feature is the fact that it allows you to encrypt your hard disk but depending on who you believe, this encryption already has backdoors and is therefore utterly worthless. Besides, you can install Veracrypt which will do the same thing for nothing. Biggest? Depends on what the user/admin is looking for. You describe a feature. Presumably you are talking about Bitlocker which itself is is as secure as Veracrypt (a variant of TrueCrypt). The software got patched LONG AGO. It is the hardware (TPM chips) that had a vulnerability but that also got fixed. Please keep current on your FUD. o http://www.securityweek.com/research...tlocker-bypass "bypassed on systems that do not have the latest patches". Gee, what might be the solution there and the same as with every other security update? Duh! The article is dated November 18, 2015 (TWO YEARS AGO) but the patch had already showed up on Nov 2015 Patch Tuesday. o https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ability-in-tpm https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/127650 What's the solution? Yeah, update the firmware. Duh! If you are using Bitlocker then you should be keeping up with the news. After all, either you are a sysadmin in a company or you choose to be an admin of your own PC so you're the one supposed to be knowledgeable. When the Hell did I say I was a sys admin? Also, why would I believe that Bitlocker doesn't have backdoors just because some article said so? I'm referring to the fact that Windows in general seems to have backdoors for law enforcement as per Snowden's revelations. Security Week can do nothing to change the very negative perception people have of Microsoft's products as it relates to privacy and personal security. Doubtful that anyone looking at going from Home to Pro really cares about Bitlocker if they weren't using it before or already employed an alternative. Bitlocker can incorporate hardware, Veracrypt cannot. Except that VeraCrypt, in its open-source nature, guarantees that it is devoid of backdoors whereas BitLocker can make no such promise by being a proprietary product. Home editions cannot join a domain. A SOHO might decide they want to go with a domain, add a server, and then want their workstations added to the domain. Can do that with Pro, not with Home. Also, no group/local policy editor in Home editions. You might figure out which registry entries match which policies but that only works on simple policies. Some policies (e.g., Software Restriction Policies) generate a unique hash when they are created and you won't be able to do that with the registry editor. There are templates you can add to the policy store for a myriad of settings and control, often regarding specific software. Yeah, try adding those with regedit. Items in Pro that are missing in Home edition: - Windows Information Protection (http://tinyurl.com/ya3vnxoc) - Bitlocker (you mentioned but not by name, alternatives available). - Group policy (noted above). - Assigned Access (http://tinyurl.com/yaobzk6e) - Dynamic Provisioning (http://tinyurl.com/y9gd2pzk) - Shared PC Configuration (http://tinyurl.com/yak2hmt3) - Join a domain (not possible with Home editions without hacking) - Remote Desktop (alternatives available, T already knows some) - Client Hyper-V (other virtualization available but may not be compatible with Hyper-V deployed elsewhere in the organization). - and more. T never stated if this was for a standalone PC or used in a business and why they (not T) feels the need to go to the Pro edition. From T's past descriptions of his customers, they're boobs so the Pro version will offer them no advantage, be beyond their abilities to administer, and just waste money. The way he expressed himself in his post, it was pretty clear that he was a single user wondering whether he would simply be better off with Pro over Home. As such, for a person matching his profile, BitLocker is the feature most likely to pique his interest. THAT is why I highlighted IT and not the others. |
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Doomsdrzej wrote:
Except that VeraCrypt, in its open-source nature, guarantees that it is devoid of backdoors whereas BitLocker can make no such promise by being a proprietary product. Being open sourced doesn't guarantee no malicious intent. Unless the code is audited, no one knows the safety of an open source program. Veracrypt WAS vulnerable despite being an open source program. Because it was open source meant someone else could review the code. Some vulnerabilities were cound in Veracrypt. See: https://ostif.org/the-veracrypt-audit-results/ QuarksLab found: 8 Critical Vulnerabilities 3 Medium Vulnerabilities 15 Low or Informational Vulnerabilities / Concerns Looks like 7 of the 26 issues were addressed by Veracrypt. Unsure how many more got addressed by "for other vulnerabilities that can be closed by user practices". Compression got addressed by replacing with different libs but those libs were not part of the code audit. Being proprietary doesn't mean a program is less secure than an open sourced counterpart. The audit found problems in Veracrypt. So how many open sourced programs actually get audited? Has there been a code audit of LibreOffice? Gimp? Auditing the source code does not mandate that was the code used when compiling a distributed executable. Rare few users compile the source code. Instead they pick up the exectuable. Show 'em this. Deliver 'em that. Ever seen a code audit that disassembles Veracrypt to audit that code? Open source isn't safer. It's just *available* for public review, not that it ever got independently reviewed. You have to assume the source that is open for public review was also the source used to compile the distributed executable. |
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:46:57 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Doomsdrzej wrote: Except that VeraCrypt, in its open-source nature, guarantees that it is devoid of backdoors whereas BitLocker can make no such promise by being a proprietary product. Being open sourced doesn't guarantee no malicious intent. Unless the code is audited, no one knows the safety of an open source program. Veracrypt WAS vulnerable despite being an open source program. Because it was open source meant someone else could review the code. Some vulnerabilities were cound in Veracrypt. See: https://ostif.org/the-veracrypt-audit-results/ QuarksLab found: 8 Critical Vulnerabilities 3 Medium Vulnerabilities 15 Low or Informational Vulnerabilities / Concerns Looks like 7 of the 26 issues were addressed by Veracrypt. Unsure how many more got addressed by "for other vulnerabilities that can be closed by user practices". Compression got addressed by replacing with different libs but those libs were not part of the code audit. Being proprietary doesn't mean a program is less secure than an open sourced counterpart. The audit found problems in Veracrypt. So how many open sourced programs actually get audited? Has there been a code audit of LibreOffice? Gimp? Auditing the source code does not mandate that was the code used when compiling a distributed executable. Rare few users compile the source code. Instead they pick up the exectuable. Show 'em this. Deliver 'em that. Ever seen a code audit that disassembles Veracrypt to audit that code? Open source isn't safer. It's just *available* for public review, not that it ever got independently reviewed. You have to assume the source that is open for public review was also the source used to compile the distributed executable. Great points and thank you for that. |
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On 12/06/2017 01:23 AM, Andy Burns wrote: T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? StartSettingsSystemAboutChangeProductKeyOrUpgr adeGoToStore Thank you! I am hoping my distributors have something I can sell. Upgrade 'ware' for Office and Windows ceased years ago. All versions released are full versions and priced accordingly. Also note...the Product key included in retail or onliner packaged or downloaded product is only used to obtain the product not the product key used for installation and subsequent activation. Ttbomk, all current available versions are 'Click-to-Run' unlike prior versions which were MSI(Desktop). Iirc, this change was made shortly after Office 2K16 was released. Optionally, Office 365 is available as a subscription based model, though it does not meet your intent to 'sell it' since the subscription is MSA account based. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 -- .....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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T wrote: Anyone know if there is a Home to Professional upgrade license out there? I am hoping my distributors have something I can sell. I am not real trusting having my customer give M$ their credit card numbers. Upgrade 'ware' for Office and Windows ceased years ago. All versions released are full versions and priced accordingly. Windows 8.0 was the last 'upgrade' Windows version with upgrade pricing. Windows 8.1 and later is all full version/full price ware. - Full version can be used to upgrade an existing device. Office 2010 was the last upgrade 'Office' version with upgrade pricing. - Note: For a short period of time upgrade pricing was available(circa 2012) for Office 2010 to 2013 with qualification tied to the point in time Office 2010 was purchased(i.e. it was a guarantee to upgrade to 2013 if 2010 was purchased within a short period of time prior to 2013 release). - Full can be used to upgrade 2013, but not 2010 or earlier. Those earlier versions must be uninstalled. -- .....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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O.T. winston - not the decoded nym in your From header (was: home to pro?)
.....w wrote:
VVVVVVVVVVV Incorrect UTF8 Base64 corrected to his all-ASCII nym is: ....winston From: =?UTF-8?B?Li4uLnfCocOxwqfCscKkw7E=?= Seamonkey is screwing up your nym in the From header even worse than whatever you were using before. The decoding of your UTF-8 Base64 nym shows the original string had non-ASCII characters. Why do you need UTF8 B64 encoding when "...winston" consists of ten ASCII characters? "...winston" (sans quotes) in UTF-8 Base64 is encoded as: =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud2luc3Rvbg==?= not as =?UTF-8?B?Li4uLnfCocOxwqfCscKkw7E=?= Test it out at http://www.sendblaster.com/en/utf8-e...ubject-encoder. Enter "...winston" to see what the UTF-8 Base64 string should be. As another test, go to http://dogmamix.com/MimeHeadersDecoder/ and enter what Seamonkey put in your From header, which was: From: =?UTF-8?B?Li4uLnfCocOxwqfCscKkw7E=?= and click the Decode button. Instead of "...winston" as your nym, it decodes to "....w" (with 4 leading dots instead of 3). |
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