Window 7.x?

Jeff Layman wrote:

On 15/04/2014 21:14, VanguardLH wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:

It seems that Win7 and Win8 have taken different roads.

Based on WHAT?

Will 7 evolve into 7.1, .2, or whatever? That is, will it be improved
for years to come?

Products that aren't in mainstream support don't get service packs or
incremental versioned upgrades.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=14481

There's only 8 months left for mainstream support of Windows 7. After
that you get updates (not upgrades), patches, and security fixes. Maybe
Microsoft will come out with another and last service pack for Win7 but
I'll let your hold /your/ breath for it.

In that context, what is meant by an "upgrade"?

Microsoft has set a new standard for upgrades with Windows 8 by going to
8.1. Nothing prevent them from doing the same machination to any
product they currently support, like Windows 7.

gufus wrote:

...winston wrote:

Evolution of 7 is done.

That suck! IMHO

Mainstream support for Windows 7 ends next mid-January. If you want to
see their support scheduling then go to:

http://www.microsoft.com/lifecycle

Microsoft announced long ago that they intend about a 6-year lifecycle
for their Windows and other products. Well, Windows 7 was released in
2009 and its mainstream support ends in 2015 so, yep, they're pretty
much back to their 6-year lifecycle again. Windows 8 also has only a
6-year lifecycle on mainstream support. Vista was such a poor seller
that mainstream support was only 5 years.

Only if the corporate customers and retailers (single licensed end users
don't count) wail a lot might Microsoft then extend their mainstream
support. Happened with Windows XP that had its mainstream support
extended to 8 years but I doubt that will happen again.

Jeff Layman wrote, On 4/16/2014 3:34 AM:

In that context, what is meant by an "upgrade"? I have always
associated that term with, for example, a change from XP to Vista or
Win7, or more particularly something like Win7HP to Pro or Ultimate.
Those "upgrades" were never part of the specific OS already being run,
and cost money!

What upgrades have there been within Win7HP, for example? Are you
perhaps referring to IE9 - IE10 - IE11?


Traditionally updates are patches (program and security, and/or rollups)
for all editions of current and prior versions of a given operating system.

Upgrades, in the same vein, are replacing a prior operating system with
a more current.

The above model creates confusion with 8.1
8.0 was an upgrade, while 8.1 was termed a new operating system.

Subsequently 8.1 Update 1 is not termed a new o/s thus just an
'Update' and like a Service Pack available via WU or the MSFT Download
Center.

Other parameters of the model changed with 8.1 - unlike 8.0 which was
available only as upgrade media (except MSDN, VL programs, Partner, etc.
programs) - Windows 8.1 is only available as full version
software...which means it is very likely that once inventory is
exhausted that 8.1 will be the default full version media (especially
since its already being distributed to the pre-built pc community).

In the long run, the 10 yrs of life cycle could very well start
incrementing downward toward the 7-8 yr. cycle..which is more than twice
the life of the hardware.

Another large factor is support...the OEM's (pre-built)also have their
hands on a piece of the preferred pie. They've no desire (since they
are responsible for support) to continue provide resource and expense
(free and fee) for more than two operating systems especially since they
can not control the 3rd party hardware market (mobo, printers, etc.
other devices).

A lot of players in this game...with MSFT not necessarily commanding
home field advantage.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:37:45 -0700, W. eWatson wrote:

It seems that Win7 and Win8 have taken different roads. Will 7 evolve
into 7.1, .2, or whatever?


No, of course not. Microsoft has abandoned new development on
Windows 7 in favor of Windows 8.

Eventually, when enough people get fed up with Windows 8, Microsoft
will release a Windows with most of the annoyances removed. That was
the story with ME and XP, with Vista and 7.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 06:49:50 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Microsoft has set a new standard for upgrades with Windows 8 by going to
8.1. Nothing prevent them from doing the same machination to any
product they currently support, like Windows 7.

Hope so for W7.

--
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allow Thyself to become excessively annoyed

In article ,
says...
Eventually, when enough people get fed up with Windows 8, Microsoft
will release a Windows with most of the annoyances removed. That was
the story with ME and XP, with Vista and 7.

WinME and XP are totally different beasts. XP was an update of Windows
2000 (Win2K = 5.0, XP = 5.1) and has it's roots in Windows NT (3.0, 3.5,
4.0). WinMe was part of the old Win95/98 legacy.

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Wolf K wrote:

And Windows NT was derived from OS/2.

I thought it was largely derived from the VAX system.

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Wolf K wrote:

And Windows NT was derived from OS/2.

Wiki has a nice little story about that evolution in the Development
section of this article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_nt#Development

NT was supposed to be OS/2 3, but Win 3 was doing so well that MS
decided to go off on its own with its Win API for it, splitting with IBM.


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Mike Easter