SP2 - WHY?????

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
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The only real stupid question is the one that isn't asked.
If there is anyone here who can't understand that basic fact, they should
either go away or calmly and politely learn to live with it.

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Later, I also think that this old aphorism is mostly applicable
to situations where your fears and feelings are involved.
Say you are talking to your doctor-there there may be no
stupid questions. Or your vet, or even your minister.

When your are problem solving, I just don't think that is true.
As a matter of fact not asking a stupid question may be a
great driving force for many to actually solve problems on
their own. Or maybe you ask the questions that you know
are stupid to yourself, and try to answer them yourself before
you ask them in public. The lesson is "do your homework."

Tell me, isn't it frustrating to answer the same question,
like: "Where can I download SP2" again and again,
when the answer is just 3 or 4 posts down in the list?
In that case, maybe telling the poster to Google it may
be more helpful to both him and you. He will have learned
that Google is a great resource to answer his questions
and you will be able to go on to questions where your
expertise, if any, will be better utilized. The lesson is:
"Listen in class." and apply what you've learned.

Dick

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When your are problem solving, I just don't think that is true.
As a matter of fact not asking a stupid question may be a
great driving force for many to actually solve problems on
their own. Or maybe you ask the questions that you know
are stupid to yourself, and try to answer them yourself before
you ask them in public. The lesson is "do your homework."

Tell me, isn't it frustrating to answer the same question,

like: "Where can I download SP2" again and again,
when the answer is just 3 or 4 posts down in the list?

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Actual a bad example. One post say it will be automatic on Aug 16,
2004 another says it will be released to the home user on Aug 18,
2004 and pro user later. I bet that makes the pro user mad.


Greg R

"Greg R" wrote in message
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When your are problem solving, I just don't think that is true.
As a matter of fact not asking a stupid question may be a
great driving force for many to actually solve problems on
their own. Or maybe you ask the questions that you know
are stupid to yourself, and try to answer them yourself before
you ask them in public. The lesson is "do your homework."

Tell me, isn't it frustrating to answer the same question,

like: "Where can I download SP2" again and again,
when the answer is just 3 or 4 posts down in the list?

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Actual a bad example. One post say it will be automatic on Aug 16,
2004 another says it will be released to the home user on Aug 18,
2004 and pro user later. I bet that makes the pro user mad.


Greg R


Not really, there was a post early yesterday that contained a
link that indicated that Microsoft had delayed their schedule
by 9 days to allow network administrators to apply the patch
that allowed Windows Update to be set to automatic and
NOT download SP2. So if you had read the posts you would
know the answer to the question.

Dick

Over the last several months there have been almost countless posts
giving the "Facts" about SP-2, most have turned out to be false.
So referring to a post early yesterday is almost worthless unless it
had a reference to a Microsoft link.
Many of the posts with "facts" cited Microsoft sources but they could
not be verified directly at Microsoft and were later shown to be
false.
That particular post is likely correct but the past few months proves
again that simply a post is in itself worthless without a Microsoft
link.

There are many ways to ask and answer a question.
There are good ways and bad ways to suggest people research before
asking.
Some feel it necessary to insult those that ask an old question.
If it is done improperly it can have the effect stifling the asking of
questions and thus stop many of those that need it most.
There are already to many insecure computers without discouraging
those that at least know enough to ask.

To repeat what I said befo
"If there is anyone here who can't understand that basic fact, they
should either go away or calmly and politely learn to live with it."

People who feel it is "frustrating to answer the same question" need
to learn to deal with it or perhaps these newsgroups are the wrong
place for them.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Dick Kistler" wrote in message
Not really, there was a post early yesterday that contained a
link that indicated that Microsoft had delayed their schedule
by 9 days to allow network administrators to apply the patch
that allowed Windows Update to be set to automatic and
NOT download SP2. So if you had read the posts you would
know the answer to the question.

Dick

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
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To repeat what I said befo
"If there is anyone here who can't understand that basic fact, they=20
should either go away or calmly and politely learn to live with it."
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People who feel it is "frustrating to answer the same question" need=20
to learn to deal with it or perhaps these newsgroups are the wrong=20
place for them.

Funny, MPT doesn't share this view, she attacks others all the time for =
asking questions that have been asked over and over again. Will you use =
this caveat on her as she continues her diatribes?

MPT?
Is "MPT" the standard you use to measure how you do your own posts?
If you feel that way about "MPT", perhaps you should use a different
standard.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Tom" wrote in message
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Funny, MPT doesn't share this view, she attacks others all the time
for asking questions that have been asked over and over again. Will
you use this caveat on her as she continues her diatribes?

Oh dear!

You are one of the worst here when answering directly, nothing more than =
defensive posturing from your part. If you cannot answer a question =
directly, then why bother. You make statements to what you think these =
forums are for, yet you avoid standing up for it, to the worst of the =
offenders. I need no other standard, I don't attack people for simply =
making posts, or asking questions. I do however, dislike people who do. =
Your standards are fairly poor if you consider the post you made to =
which I replied, which you conveniently cut:

People who feel it is "frustrating to answer the same question" need=20
to learn to deal with it or perhaps these newsgroups are the wrong=20
place for them..

Keep this in mind, next time you get "frustrated"!

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MPT?
Is "MPT" the standard you use to measure how you do your own posts?
If you feel that way about "MPT", perhaps you should use a different=20
standard.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
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"Tom" wrote in message=20
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Funny, MPT doesn't share this view, she attacks others all the time=20
for asking questions that have been asked over and over again. Will=20
you use this caveat on her as she continues her diatribes?=20
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Apparently you missed the question mark after MPT in my last post.
That was meant to mean I do not know what MPT means.
So I can not answer until I know what you ask?

I do not get frustrated at all with people asking the questions even
if it is the same question repeatedly.
So frustration is not an issue for me at all.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Tom" wrote in message
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Oh dear!

You are one of the worst here when answering directly, nothing more
than defensive posturing from your part. If you cannot answer a
question directly, then why bother. You make statements to what you
think these forums are for, yet you avoid standing up for it, to the
worst of the offenders. I need no other standard, I don't attack
people for simply making posts, or asking questions. I do however,
dislike people who do. Your standards are fairly poor if you consider
the post you made to which I replied, which you conveniently cut:

People who feel it is "frustrating to answer the same question" need
to learn to deal with it or perhaps these newsgroups are the wrong
place for them..

Keep this in mind, next time you get "frustrated"!

...
MPT?
Is "MPT" the standard you use to measure how you do your own posts?
If you feel that way about "MPT", perhaps you should use a different
standard.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:00:48 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote:

Apparently you missed the question mark after MPT in my last post.
That was meant to mean I do not know what MPT means.
So I can not answer until I know what you ask?

I do not get frustrated at all with people asking the questions even
if it is the same question repeatedly.
So frustration is not an issue for me at all.

Hey, Jupiter.
I Think people are getting you mixed up with the fake Jupiter.
However, I wish I knew what to look for in the headers.
To tell you apart from the fake one

Greg R

Greg;
telus.net is mine.
Impostor...somewhere else.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message Hey, Jupiter.
I Think people are getting you mixed up with the fake Jupiter.
However, I wish I knew what to look for in the headers.
To tell you apart from the fake one

Greg R

Greg R wrote:
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When your are problem solving, I just don't think that is true.
As a matter of fact not asking a stupid question may be a
great driving force for many to actually solve problems on
their own. Or maybe you ask the questions that you know
are stupid to yourself, and try to answer them yourself before
you ask them in public. The lesson is "do your homework."

Tell me, isn't it frustrating to answer the same question,


like: "Where can I download SP2" again and again,
when the answer is just 3 or 4 posts down in the list?


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Actual a bad example. One post say it will be automatic on Aug 16,
2004 another says it will be released to the home user on Aug 18,
2004 and pro user later. I bet that makes the pro user mad.


Greg R

And M$ says Aug 25