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Old September 3rd 15, 08:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big Al[_5_]
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Default Recycle bin shows empty but still has stuff in there.

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin and just scans tons of files. All under a
folder like S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?

I have a few portable drives, and I thought it might be something I deleted from them but I've plugged them all in and
nothing seems to show up.
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Old September 4th 15, 12:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Recycle bin shows empty but still has stuff in there.

On 2015-09-03 15:15, Big Al wrote:

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it
in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin
and just scans tons of files. All under a folder like
S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?

I have a few portable drives, and I thought it might be something I
deleted from them but I've plugged them all in and nothing seems to show
up.


Could be under another user. I've never tested this fully but if I
recall, the recycle bin shows you the files that the currently logged in
user deleted. If you have multiple users, you may need to log into them
and delete their recycle bin too...

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Old September 4th 15, 01:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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B00ze wrote on 9/3/2015 7:23 PM:
On 2015-09-03 15:15, Big Al wrote:

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it
in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin
and just scans tons of files. All under a folder like
S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?

I have a few portable drives, and I thought it might be something I
deleted from them but I've plugged them all in and nothing seems to show
up.


Could be under another user. I've never tested this fully but if I
recall, the recycle bin shows you the files that the currently logged in user deleted. If you have multiple users, you
may need to log into them and delete their recycle bin too...

Good thought, not that it works, but good thought. I'm the only user. Hmm wonder if Admin is considered another
user. I'll have to look but I might have a local account, not sure if that can be considered a 2nd user.
Thanks, gives me something to look into. I'll boot in safe mode and see what happens.

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Old September 4th 15, 01:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Recycle bin shows empty but still has stuff in there.

FredW wrote on 9/4/2015 8:25 AM:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:15:32 -0400, Big Al wrote:

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin and just scans tons of files. All under a
folder like S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?


Go to the in Recycle Bin and delete the S-*.* files.
(I have done this many times.)

Yes, other than changing permission I was thinking of doing that. It's just one folder and only 2 Meg 2,900+ files but
I still want it gone. Thanks.



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Old September 4th 15, 05:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Big Al wrote on 9/4/2015 8:33 AM:
FredW wrote on 9/4/2015 8:25 AM:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:15:32 -0400, Big Al wrote:

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin and just scans tons of files. All under a
folder like S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?


Go to the in Recycle Bin and delete the S-*.* files.
(I have done this many times.)

Yes, other than changing permission I was thinking of doing that. It's just one folder and only 2 Meg 2,900+ files but
I still want it gone. Thanks.



Just took ownership and deleted. No ill side effects. Tested a new deleted file and empty bin and it seems to work
just fine.

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Old September 4th 15, 08:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Recycle bin shows empty but still has stuff in there.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:25:58 +0200, FredW wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:15:32 -0400, Big Al wrote:

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin and just scans tons of files. All under a
folder like S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?


Go to the in Recycle Bin and delete the S-*.* files.
(I have done this many times.)



The S-*.* files (subfolders) contain the other users' deleted files.
You will need to take ownership.
You are, in effect, doing what B00ze suggested -- emptying other
users' recycle bins.


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Old September 5th 15, 01:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Recycle bin shows empty but still has stuff in there.

FredW wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 07:40:03 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:25:58 +0200, FredW wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:15:32 -0400, Big Al wrote:

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin and just scans tons of files. All under a
folder like S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?
Go to the in Recycle Bin and delete the S-*.* files.
(I have done this many times.)


The S-*.* files (subfolders) contain the other users' deleted files.
You will need to take ownership.
You are, in effect, doing what B00ze suggested -- emptying other
users' recycle bins.


I am very sorry, but ...

I have only one user on my PC.
Where are those other users?
(I do not have to take ownership, only delete as administrator.)


I learned a command for the Command Prompt just yesterday.

wmic useraccount get name,sid

The output looks like this.

Name SID
Administrator S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-500
Mere User S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000
Guest S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-501

Note that this doesn't cover all the "entities". It
is possible to have "Services" with their own SID value,
and the Service doesn't have a Home directory. But never
the less, the SID values are important. For example,
our friend "TrustedInstaller" likely has a SID of its
own. There is another one called "Updateus" or similar.
Now, I've seen those listed *somewhere* in Windows before,
but I cannot remember where now. But at least the WMIC
will calm your fears about what full accounts exist.

If you were to run icacls in /save mode, over the entire
C: partition, and sort all the SIDs out, you would likely
get samples of more SIDs to worry about.

Paul
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Old September 5th 15, 01:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Big Al[_5_]
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Default Recycle bin shows empty but still has stuff in there.

Paul wrote on 9/4/2015 8:09 PM:
FredW wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 07:40:03 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:25:58 +0200, FredW wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:15:32 -0400, Big Al wrote:

The recycle bin is empty both the icon on the desktop and looking at it in explorer.
But if I run MalwareBytes as it's scanning folders it hits $RECYCLE.bin and just scans tons of files. All under a
folder like S-1-2-3-34982-3042 or something like that.

Is there a way to really empty the recycle bin?
Go to the in Recycle Bin and delete the S-*.* files.
(I have done this many times.)

The S-*.* files (subfolders) contain the other users' deleted files.
You will need to take ownership.
You are, in effect, doing what B00ze suggested -- emptying other
users' recycle bins.


I am very sorry, but ...

I have only one user on my PC.
Where are those other users?
(I do not have to take ownership, only delete as administrator.)


I learned a command for the Command Prompt just yesterday.

wmic useraccount get name,sid

The output looks like this.

Name SID
Administrator S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-500
Mere User S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000
Guest S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-501

Note that this doesn't cover all the "entities". It
is possible to have "Services" with their own SID value,
and the Service doesn't have a Home directory. But never
the less, the SID values are important. For example,
our friend "TrustedInstaller" likely has a SID of its
own. There is another one called "Updateus" or similar.
Now, I've seen those listed *somewhere* in Windows before,
but I cannot remember where now. But at least the WMIC
will calm your fears about what full accounts exist.

If you were to run icacls in /save mode, over the entire
C: partition, and sort all the SIDs out, you would likely
get samples of more SIDs to worry about.

Paul

Dang, now I wish I had not deleted the files. It would be interesting to know where they came from.
Thanks Paul, I'll keep that for later.

 




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