I Have Had it with Microsoft

A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-24 1:00 AM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-23 1:43 PM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.

I'm curious: What are your reasons for despising Linux so much?

The constant lies of their advocates, their disparaging remarks towards
me (calling _me_ a liar) when I'm telling the truth *AND* providing
evidence, the fact that gaming on Linux causes screen tearing, the fact
that the machine refuses to wake from sleep because ACPI is awful, the
fact that a machine won't shut down, the fact that much of its software
doesn't work as it should or has features which don't actually work or
produce corrupt results, etc..

That's why I never deal with "advocates" on any subject. Adocates is
the polite term. Fanatical fanatics is more the truth. Totally
unreasonable.

I've never had any of the problems you describe. Doesn't mean they
don't happen. I read and help others (predominately newbies) who are
having them, just that I don't have them.

As far as gaming, I can't speak to that since I don't game -- okay,
chess, and scrabble every once-in-awhile, but in any case, I regard
Linux unsuited for most games, particularly the action, shoot-em up,
3D stuff. Linux is just not suitable for cutting edge hardware. When
building a system, I always make sure that ALL the hardware has been
available for at least six months. Gives the developer community time
to write drivers, etc. for it.

Which is why I always recommend that people who have very small
requirements out of a computer or who use old hardware install Linux.
Windows just seems pointless to someone who insists on keeping a machine
from 2007. It'll work, but you'll probably prefer Linux just because a)
you won't have to pay for software which is something you probably don't
do anyway, b) you'll get to keep your hardware for an even longer period
of time because it will just never seem too slow.

I always suspected a conspirarcy between Microsoft and hardware
manufacturers. Microsoft agreed to write software/OSes that required
newer, more robust hardware to keep users constantly buying.

That is one nice thing about Linux: it'll run on most any hardware, new
or old, and run well. However, there are limits, but they are widely
spaced.

When was the last time you really took Linux for a thorough test drive?

Last year. I've sworn never to use it again after the final miserable
experience it provided.

What versions have you tried lately?

Last one was Ubuntu 14.10.

I've never like Ubuntu since the day it was released, and I tested it
for two weeks before uninstalling it. Never tried it again. Although,
it seems to be one of the most popular distros, it's too non-standard
Linux for me.

I only installed that one because I figured that it had the best chance
of doing a good job with all of my hardware. When I noticed that games
tore the screen in Unity, I installed Ubuntu-GNOME instead especially
since I like the GNOME interface. The problem persisted there. You can
imagine how strong my desire to continue using Linux was after that.

I know of no Linux user who liked Unity. People had the same
reaction with it as Windows users did with W8 GUI.

I abandoned GNOME when it went from version 2 to 3. I now just use a
window manager and a single panel with menus and quick launchers. Very
light and fast. In actuality, I have no Desktop on this Linux system.

I have no intentions of disputing your reasons or converting you
to Linux. Your choice is your choice. So, feel free to elaborate all
you want. I'm just curious.

As to my preference: I'm a 15 year Linux user having migrated from the
Amiga -- never did the PC/DOS/Windows thing. I chose Linux over
Windows, among other OSes, as Linux was the most like Amiga Workbench
3.1 at the time -- fast, stable, good choice of apps, etc. Also, I spent
a lot of time "fixing" software problems on friends' Window's machines
(and still do) that it engendered a lack of confidence in Window's
stability and reliability. An opinion I still hold to this day.

Do I use Windows? Yes. For those few things I have no other
choice -- usually due to someone else's mandate. I run XP (a legal
copy) in VirtualBox on this Linux box.

I would have loved to use an Amiga or an Atari back then but my first
real PC (only had a TI994/A before that) was an IBM PS/1 286 in 1991. I
watched the platform evolve from then and watched Windows become better
with each version (started with 3.0, then 3.1, then 95, then 98, 98SE,
ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10). I've also used OS/2 and
experimented with Linux since Slackware in 1994. Every single time I
install Linux, I am disappointed by how shoddy the code is in comparison
to what Microsoft offers. Only in the 9x era could Linux compete and
even then it was worse than what Microsoft was making.

The Amiga was years ahead of its time. Too bad Commodore didn't
recognize that, and develop and market it business. Instead, they
hyped it as a super game machine. What a waste. You must
remember, at the time, PCs were still using DOS. There was no Windows.
And here's the Amiga with a full GUI. Commodore sure dropped the ball
and shot themselves in the foot on that one.

Once the Genesis came out, the Amiga must have seemed pretty obsolete.
After all, both were capable of doing more or less the same thing
game-wise and the Genesis cost a lot less and had better games. the
Super NES must have been the final nail in the coffin. It's too bad that
Jack Tramiel was no longer there to push them in the right direction and
that Atari and Amiga never realize that they had a better chance if they
worked together to topple the giant rather than try to hurt each other
in the mid-range market.

Not familiar with Genesis. A dedicated game machine? For me, computers
have always been tools for production, not entertainment.

Stef

Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.

Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7 Professional.
Surely people are free to use whatever they wish without gratuitous
insults from people like you and Old Guy. At least you aren't appending a
bunch of HTML code at the end of your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find I have to
reset things like my video card configuration so I can use two monitors.
Is there a way I can update these settings to the DVD or should I simply
devote one system to Linux and install on the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with Windows as
the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the same with XP on
my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD allow
persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a special file
on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I don't know if Mint
does this.

Stef

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My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

And who's supposed to care?

Yer mama, apparently. As an obviously deformed and mentally ill
thalidomide baby from the '60s, she didn't abort you, now did she? But
that was probably mainly because of the welfare checks and food stamps
she
would have missed out on to support her crack and heroin habits if she'd
just flushed you once and for all back then. Alas, hindsight, ehhh?

Do you just cut and past these?

YOU damn sure copy and pasted that one from mine back at yours.
("past" = Freudian Slip + knickers and geriatric diapers)


Oh, hey, hi AUK! Any of the old crowd around?

YOU are "the old crowd"... you and and your geriatric sock-poopette morons.

HTH.

I bet I can keep ypou posting indefinitely.

Please don't.


(glcb vagragvbany)



--
Checkmate, AUK DoW #1
Official AUK Award Giver-Outer
Copyright © 2015
all rights reserved

On 8/24/2015 11:43 PM, Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.

Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7 Professional.
Surely people are free to use whatever they wish without gratuitous
insults from people like you and Old Guy. At least you aren't appending a
bunch of HTML code at the end of your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find I have to
reset things like my video card configuration so I can use two monitors.
Is there a way I can update these settings to the DVD or should I simply
devote one system to Linux and install on the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with Windows as
the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the same with XP on
my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD allow
persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a special file
on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I don't know if Mint
does this.

Stef


That's where I am, not knowing enough yet to make helpful decisions. I
find I have a learning circle going on that just keep spinning at the
rate of that DVD. That's why I want to get the Linux OS installed on a
SSD. Soon.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:59:58 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/24/2015 11:43 PM, Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let me
choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and
sure enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to
install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only
be using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand
your frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll
be back soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone
to stick to it.

Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7
Professional. Surely people are free to use whatever they wish
without gratuitous insults from people like you and Old Guy. At
least you aren't appending a bunch of HTML code at the end of
your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find I
have to reset things like my video card configuration so I can use
two monitors. Is there a way I can update these settings to the
DVD or should I simply devote one system to Linux and install on
the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with
Windows as the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the
same with XP on my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD
allow persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a
special file on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I don't
know if Mint does this.

Stef


That's where I am, not knowing enough yet to make helpful
decisions. I find I have a learning circle going on that just keep
spinning at the rate of that DVD. That's why I want to get the Linux
OS installed on a SSD. Soon.



Install it, you can always remove it if you don't like it.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:35:21 +0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote:

Actually Linux is not "awful across the board" and there are standards.
....
What standards? we're not talking networking protocols here.
....
As I've said before, I've been working in the computer industry for
over 40 years and have worked with a large number of different systems.
They *all* suck in their own way.

Oh dear, sure sign of lack of confidence when someone trots out
their employment record as some kind of evidence as to their
credibility.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:19:58 +0100, Linux User wrote:

On 24/08/15 15:18, mechanic wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:00:17 +0000 (UTC), Stef wrote:

I've never like Ubuntu since the day it was released, and I tested it
for two weeks before uninstalling it. Never tried it again. Although,
it seems to be one of the most popular distros, it's too non-standard
Linux for me.

How is it non-standard? Part of the problem with Linux is that there
are no standards.


Has Windows got Standard?

There are standard APIs for application programmers.

On 2015-08-24 11:37 PM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-24 1:00 AM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-23 1:43 PM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.

I'm curious: What are your reasons for despising Linux so much?

The constant lies of their advocates, their disparaging remarks towards
me (calling _me_ a liar) when I'm telling the truth *AND* providing
evidence, the fact that gaming on Linux causes screen tearing, the fact
that the machine refuses to wake from sleep because ACPI is awful, the
fact that a machine won't shut down, the fact that much of its software
doesn't work as it should or has features which don't actually work or
produce corrupt results, etc..

That's why I never deal with "advocates" on any subject. Adocates is
the polite term. Fanatical fanatics is more the truth. Totally
unreasonable.

I've never had any of the problems you describe. Doesn't mean they
don't happen. I read and help others (predominately newbies) who are
having them, just that I don't have them.

As far as gaming, I can't speak to that since I don't game -- okay,
chess, and scrabble every once-in-awhile, but in any case, I regard
Linux unsuited for most games, particularly the action, shoot-em up,
3D stuff. Linux is just not suitable for cutting edge hardware. When
building a system, I always make sure that ALL the hardware has been
available for at least six months. Gives the developer community time
to write drivers, etc. for it.

Which is why I always recommend that people who have very small
requirements out of a computer or who use old hardware install Linux.
Windows just seems pointless to someone who insists on keeping a machine
from 2007. It'll work, but you'll probably prefer Linux just because a)
you won't have to pay for software which is something you probably don't
do anyway, b) you'll get to keep your hardware for an even longer period
of time because it will just never seem too slow.

I always suspected a conspirarcy between Microsoft and hardware
manufacturers. Microsoft agreed to write software/OSes that required
newer, more robust hardware to keep users constantly buying.

That is one nice thing about Linux: it'll run on most any hardware, new
or old, and run well. However, there are limits, but they are widely
spaced.

Windows _will_ run on older hardware, except that the software running
on Windows is no longer optimized for that old hardware. Install Windows
7 on a 2007 computer and it will run fine, but install all of the
software people use today and you'll find it sluggish. The only reason
Linux is better in this respect is because there is a variety of
programs for each task. Some of them are made for older hardware, some
of them are made for more recent hardware. Install Linux on a 2007
machine and then put Firefox on it and it will be just as slow as on
Windows 7.

When was the last time you really took Linux for a thorough test drive?

Last year. I've sworn never to use it again after the final miserable
experience it provided.

What versions have you tried lately?

Last one was Ubuntu 14.10.

I've never like Ubuntu since the day it was released, and I tested it
for two weeks before uninstalling it. Never tried it again. Although,
it seems to be one of the most popular distros, it's too non-standard
Linux for me.

I only installed that one because I figured that it had the best chance
of doing a good job with all of my hardware. When I noticed that games
tore the screen in Unity, I installed Ubuntu-GNOME instead especially
since I like the GNOME interface. The problem persisted there. You can
imagine how strong my desire to continue using Linux was after that.

I know of no Linux user who liked Unity. People had the same
reaction with it as Windows users did with W8 GUI.

I abandoned GNOME when it went from version 2 to 3. I now just use a
window manager and a single panel with menus and quick launchers. Very
light and fast. In actuality, I have no Desktop on this Linux system.

The choice is definitely there, the problem is that you choose between a
number of awful desktops. People with low standards don't mind but I do.

I have no intentions of disputing your reasons or converting you
to Linux. Your choice is your choice. So, feel free to elaborate all
you want. I'm just curious.

As to my preference: I'm a 15 year Linux user having migrated from the
Amiga -- never did the PC/DOS/Windows thing. I chose Linux over
Windows, among other OSes, as Linux was the most like Amiga Workbench
3.1 at the time -- fast, stable, good choice of apps, etc. Also, I spent
a lot of time "fixing" software problems on friends' Window's machines
(and still do) that it engendered a lack of confidence in Window's
stability and reliability. An opinion I still hold to this day.

Do I use Windows? Yes. For those few things I have no other
choice -- usually due to someone else's mandate. I run XP (a legal
copy) in VirtualBox on this Linux box.

I would have loved to use an Amiga or an Atari back then but my first
real PC (only had a TI994/A before that) was an IBM PS/1 286 in 1991. I
watched the platform evolve from then and watched Windows become better
with each version (started with 3.0, then 3.1, then 95, then 98, 98SE,
ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10). I've also used OS/2 and
experimented with Linux since Slackware in 1994. Every single time I
install Linux, I am disappointed by how shoddy the code is in comparison
to what Microsoft offers. Only in the 9x era could Linux compete and
even then it was worse than what Microsoft was making.

The Amiga was years ahead of its time. Too bad Commodore didn't
recognize that, and develop and market it business. Instead, they
hyped it as a super game machine. What a waste. You must
remember, at the time, PCs were still using DOS. There was no Windows.
And here's the Amiga with a full GUI. Commodore sure dropped the ball
and shot themselves in the foot on that one.

Once the Genesis came out, the Amiga must have seemed pretty obsolete.
After all, both were capable of doing more or less the same thing
game-wise and the Genesis cost a lot less and had better games. the
Super NES must have been the final nail in the coffin. It's too bad that
Jack Tramiel was no longer there to push them in the right direction and
that Atari and Amiga never realize that they had a better chance if they
worked together to topple the giant rather than try to hurt each other
in the mid-range market.

Not familiar with Genesis. A dedicated game machine? For me, computers
have always been tools for production, not entertainment.

The Sega Genesis = the Sega Mega-Drive in other parts of the world.


--
A.M
Your pet's opinion on technology is more valid than that of a Linux advocate

Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:
My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.
While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.
Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7 Professional.
Surely people are free to use whatever they wish without gratuitous
insults from people like you and Old Guy. At least you aren't appending a
bunch of HTML code at the end of your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find I have to
reset things like my video card configuration so I can use two monitors.
Is there a way I can update these settings to the DVD or should I simply
devote one system to Linux and install on the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with Windows as
the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the same with XP on
my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD allow
persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a special file
on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I don't know if Mint
does this.

Stef


I use "TORAM=yes" on the boot line. Speed is not a problem.
It takes three minutes or so to load Mint that way, but you
can eject the DVD and the contents are then held in RAM
for the rest of the session. Which is fine, if you have a
machine with a decent supply of RAM. A 2GB machine would be
a good minimum size for such a venture.

Paul

On 8/25/2015 5:35 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:59:58 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/24/2015 11:43 PM, Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let me
choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and
sure enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to
install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only
be using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand
your frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll
be back soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone
to stick to it.

Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7
Professional. Surely people are free to use whatever they wish
without gratuitous insults from people like you and Old Guy. At
least you aren't appending a bunch of HTML code at the end of
your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find I
have to reset things like my video card configuration so I can use
two monitors. Is there a way I can update these settings to the
DVD or should I simply devote one system to Linux and install on
the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with
Windows as the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the
same with XP on my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD
allow persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a
special file on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I don't
know if Mint does this.

Stef


That's where I am, not knowing enough yet to make helpful
decisions. I find I have a learning circle going on that just keep
spinning at the rate of that DVD. That's why I want to get the Linux
OS installed on a SSD. Soon.



Install it, you can always remove it if you don't like it.


That's something I will do for sure. I doubt I'll not like it as I'll
keep it and get the most out of what it has to offer. I'm already asking
myself why I haven't done this a long time ago.

I have a younger brother that went to Linux quite a while ago but he
went as a "windows Hater" in some sort of a protest stance so I'm
familiar with what that's all about.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:15:39 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/25/2015 5:35 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:59:58 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/24/2015 11:43 PM, Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let me
choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and
sure enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not
to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only
be using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand
your frustration and desire to check out the competition.
You'll be back soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for
anyone to stick to it.

Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7
Professional. Surely people are free to use whatever they wish
without gratuitous insults from people like you and Old Guy. At
least you aren't appending a bunch of HTML code at the end of
your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find
I have to reset things like my video card configuration so I can
use two monitors. Is there a way I can update these settings to
the DVD or should I simply devote one system to Linux and
install on the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with
Windows as the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the
same with XP on my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD
allow persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a
special file on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I
don't know if Mint does this.

Stef


That's where I am, not knowing enough yet to make helpful
decisions. I find I have a learning circle going on that just keep
spinning at the rate of that DVD. That's why I want to get the
Linux OS installed on a SSD. Soon.



Install it, you can always remove it if you don't like it.


That's something I will do for sure. I doubt I'll not like it as
I'll keep it and get the most out of what it has to offer. I'm
already asking myself why I haven't done this a long time ago.

I have a younger brother that went to Linux quite a while ago but
he went as a "windows Hater" in some sort of a protest stance so I'm
familiar with what that's all about.





Which distribution are you going to use?

On 8/25/2015 9:41 AM, Paul wrote:
Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:
My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which
ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.
While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back
soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.
Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7 Professional.
Surely people are free to use whatever they wish without gratuitous
insults from people like you and Old Guy. At least you aren't
appending a
bunch of HTML code at the end of your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find I have
to reset things like my video card configuration so I can use two
monitors. Is there a way I can update these settings to the DVD or
should I simply devote one system to Linux and install on the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with Windows as
the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the same with XP on
my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD allow
persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a special file
on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I don't know if Mint
does this.

Stef


I use "TORAM=yes" on the boot line. Speed is not a problem.
It takes three minutes or so to load Mint that way, but you
can eject the DVD and the contents are then held in RAM
for the rest of the session. Which is fine, if you have a
machine with a decent supply of RAM. A 2GB machine would be
a good minimum size for such a venture.

Paul


Ok, now you're going to have to explain what that means and how I go
about doing as you suggest of you don't mind. What is "the boot line"
and so on........

I guess I need the cliff notes or "Linux for dummies"

On 8/25/2015 11:20 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:15:39 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/25/2015 5:35 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:59:58 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/24/2015 11:43 PM, Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let me
choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and
sure enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not
to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only
be using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand
your frustration and desire to check out the competition.
You'll be back soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for
anyone to stick to it.

Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7
Professional. Surely people are free to use whatever they wish
without gratuitous insults from people like you and Old Guy. At
least you aren't appending a bunch of HTML code at the end of
your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I find
I have to reset things like my video card configuration so I can
use two monitors. Is there a way I can update these settings to
the DVD or should I simply devote one system to Linux and
install on the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with
Windows as the host. The both can run at the same time. I do the
same with XP on my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD
allow persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to a
special file on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I
don't know if Mint does this.

Stef


That's where I am, not knowing enough yet to make helpful
decisions. I find I have a learning circle going on that just keep
spinning at the rate of that DVD. That's why I want to get the
Linux OS installed on a SSD. Soon.



Install it, you can always remove it if you don't like it.


That's something I will do for sure. I doubt I'll not like it as
I'll keep it and get the most out of what it has to offer. I'm
already asking myself why I haven't done this a long time ago.

I have a younger brother that went to Linux quite a while ago but
he went as a "windows Hater" in some sort of a protest stance so I'm
familiar with what that's all about.





Which distribution are you going to use?

I have no idea. I am open to suggestions.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:23:39 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/25/2015 11:20 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:15:39 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/25/2015 5:35 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:59:58 -0400
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/24/2015 11:43 PM, Stef wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

On 8/23/2015 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let
me choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and
sure enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not
to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm
removing Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and
I will only be using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I
understand your frustration and desire to check out the
competition. You'll be back soon enough though; Linux is
just too awful for anyone to stick to it.

Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7
Professional. Surely people are free to use whatever they wish
without gratuitous insults from people like you and Old Guy.
At least you aren't appending a bunch of HTML code at the end
of your post.

I have Mint on a DVD but every time I boot into Linux I
find I have to reset things like my video card configuration
so I can use two monitors. Is there a way I can update these
settings to the DVD or should I simply devote one system to
Linux and install on the SSD?

Must be awfully slow running Linux off the DVD. Instead of dual
booting, why not just install Mint in a virtual machine with
Windows as the host. The both can run at the same time. I do
the same with XP on my Linux box.

But to answer your, question: some Linux distros run off CD/DVD
allow persistent settings. The configs/settings are written to
a special file on the hard drive and read each time you boot. I
don't know if Mint does this.

Stef


That's where I am, not knowing enough yet to make helpful
decisions. I find I have a learning circle going on that just
keep spinning at the rate of that DVD. That's why I want to get
the Linux OS installed on a SSD. Soon.



Install it, you can always remove it if you don't like it.


That's something I will do for sure. I doubt I'll not like it as
I'll keep it and get the most out of what it has to offer. I'm
already asking myself why I haven't done this a long time ago.

I have a younger brother that went to Linux quite a while ago
but he went as a "windows Hater" in some sort of a protest stance
so I'm familiar with what that's all about.





Which distribution are you going to use?

I have no idea. I am open to suggestions.




Linux Mint KDE 17.2
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2890

The reason I recommend this is because it is the most configurable
using just the Menu, and System Settings. You won't need to use the
Command Line in the Terminal, and this will give you time to learn
useful commands when you do use the terminal.

Once you have it installed you can right click on the Menu in the
left side of the panel, and choose Classic menu style. It's a lot
easier to navigate this way.

Be sure and download the 32 bit or 64 bit, according to what you need.
I have downloaded the wrong one before.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:51:39 -0400, -= Hawk =- wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:30:18 +0000 (UTC), Cujo DeSockpuppet
scribbled:

-= Hawk =- wrote in
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:49:55 +0000 (UTC), Cujo DeSockpuppet
scribbled:

-= Hawk =- wrote in
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On 23 Aug 2015 11:41:47 GMT, Bucky Breeder
scribbled:

-= Hawk =- posted this via
news:ig5itapatevbn982t0vjtaqrjbr2qklc86@news .astraweb.com:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:54:42 -0500, Johnny
scribbled:


My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now.
I had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose
which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be
using Linux Mint from now on.

And who's supposed to care?

Yer mama, apparently. As an obviously deformed and mentally ill
thalidomide baby from the '60s, she didn't abort you, now did she?
But that was probably mainly because of the welfare checks and food
stamps she would have missed out on to support her crack and heroin
habits if she'd just flushed you once and for all back then. Alas,
hindsight, ehhh?

Do you just cut and past these?

Oh, hey, hi AUK! Any of the old crowd around?

Your buddy Emmett Gulley is back in prison for stalking. SSDD.

No ****? I knew that boy was going to be going places. Any sightings
of Erik Mouse? I know Bullis is supposed to be ****ing up over in
24hoursupport but I haven't wandered thar way in a while.

Haven't seen Emmy's buddy in ages. I understand his family lived near me
but I never cared to find out. I recall looking for Erik's sites a few
years and they were still up but not maintained.

Poor Emmett, his life's better in prison than out in the world.

At least he has some stability now.