SP2 what a bunch of @#$!!!

If you had bothered to check the McAfee site, you would have found that they
are aware of this issue, and have posted instructions for fixing it. This
knowledge base article can be found at:
https://knowledgemap.nai.com/phpclient/viewKDoc.aspx?externalID=KB_KB37807&sessionID=Anon ymous|1189859261&sliceID=&docID=KC.KB_KB37807&url= kb/kb_kb37807.xml&dialogID=10017476&docType=DOC_Knowl edgeBase&iterationID=1&docName=Configuring%20the%2 0McAfee%20Common%20Management%20Agent%20to%20updat e%20on%20Microsoft%20Windows%20XPSP2

Expecting any company to automatically configure their software to work with
other software automatically is unrealistic, but it is generally a good idea
to check with the manufacturer of the software you are having the issue with
(in this case McAfee) for advise. If you had you would have found that the
fix takes about 2 minutes to implement and is much simpler than what you were
attempting.



"Steve" wrote:

I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system before
I installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I had
McAfee Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with
windows security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it as
generic as possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling the
dumb, !@#$!@ windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be accessible
from outside the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a random
port -- it has no significance by the way) to be accessed from outside
the network. I then switched the firewall OFF and it STILL "silently"
firewalled my computer WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL of
this, INTERNET EXPLORER started misbehaving. Every time I try browsing a
site, I have to refresh bloody ten times to get it to display the page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and God knows what else. I'm tired of this.. I've
uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my computer becomes USABLE again.
DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know nothing about computers and all you
do on your desktop is check emails and use MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!

STEVE!

I'm running two Sony P4's with XP Professional on each... I do a lot of
database development with Access and Excel interfaces... and the upgrade to
SP2 went off without a hitch... the two machines are networked together and I
upgraded both of them at the same time... I'm also running Trendmicro
Internet Security on my main machine with my internet connection...
Everything is working just fine after the upgrade...

"Steve" wrote:

I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system before
I installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I had
McAfee Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with
windows security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it as
generic as possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling the
dumb, !@#$!@ windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be accessible
from outside the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a random
port -- it has no significance by the way) to be accessed from outside
the network. I then switched the firewall OFF and it STILL "silently"
firewalled my computer WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL of
this, INTERNET EXPLORER started misbehaving. Every time I try browsing a
site, I have to refresh bloody ten times to get it to display the page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and God knows what else. I'm tired of this.. I've
uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my computer becomes USABLE again.
DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know nothing about computers and all you
do on your desktop is check emails and use MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!

STEVE!

The average techie would assume (probably wrongly) that you had
already virus scanned the install package.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 02:03:05 -0700, Andrew
wrote:

It is generally accepted by the average user that disabling AV in order to
install a program that may or may not contain a virus just means the techies
are techie by name but not by nature.....

"Mike H" wrote:

It is generally accepted that a/v should be disabled when installing
programs, even though it it not always necessary so to do..


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Gregg Cattanach" wrote

"Steve" wrote

I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system before
I
installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I had
McAfee
Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with windows
security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it as generic as
possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling the dumb, !@#$!@
windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be accessible from outside
the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a random port -- it has
no
significance by the way) to be accessed from outside the network. I then
switched the firewall OFF and it STILL "silently" firewalled my computer
WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL of this, INTERNET EXPLORER
started misbehaving. Every time I try browsing a site, I have to refresh
bloody ten times to get it to display the page. Most of the times I get
the
"Page cannot be displayed - check your connection" error and God knows
what
else. I'm tired of this.. I've uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my
computer becomes USABLE again. DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know
nothing
about computers and all you do on your desktop is check emails and use
MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!


SP2 has worked perfectly for me and for 10s of thousands of other users.

I doubt very seriously that you have contacted "10s of thousands of other
users".

I gather you failed to read that your anti-virus should be OFF when you
install SP2. You act like your experience was based on how SP2 was
written,
not on your sloppy installation method.

--
Gregg C.

The only instruction from MS is activate AU. Nothing about AVs, programs
running in the background, etc. This is irresponsible. Period. Your
patronizing and denigrating attitude towards non-techies is not warranted.

Alias

Rubbish! If a user downloads an email with a virus then runs the
program with the virus, then he/she bypasses the firewall. If he then
connects to the Internet, his/her system will try to sned the virus to
others. A firewall that scans only incoming Internet connections only
does half the job.

That said, if you have a personal firewall AND good virus checking the
need for a two way firewall is reduced.

Cheers,

Cliff


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 06:59:48 +1000, "David Candy"
wrote:

It's all it needs to do.

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http://www.newmatilda.com/home/default.asp
"CS" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:03:07 -0700, "DaveJunioR"
wrote:

Absolute BS. The only holes are in your advice. The SP2 firewall
only protects incoming not outgoing requests.

I had an absolutely smooth install of SP2. I disabled my AV (Norton AV 2004)
and things went off just great. The only "problem" I had was Norton
complaining about its status being checked by other programs. A simple check
box took care of that though. Love SP2. Great job MS.

Simply running LiveUpdate will download and install the Norton patch that
will update VMI, and then Windows Security Center will recognize the status
of both Norton AV and Norton Firewall.

Bobby

"Jacob Koppang" Jacob wrote in message
...
I had an absolutely smooth install of SP2. I disabled my AV (Norton AV
2004)
and things went off just great. The only "problem" I had was Norton
complaining about its status being checked by other programs. A simple
check
box took care of that though. Love SP2. Great job MS.

I have just finished reading many of the replies to this message, and I
must say: Wow! There are alot of "developers" out there having problems,
and flying off the handle without being completely informed. I call them
"developers" only because they are using Visual Studio (and that's the only
reason). Like so many others out there, I have a pretty heavily loaded
development environment (including AV running) and I installed SP2 without
incident. Everything has worked wonderfully ever since and I'm fairly
impressed with the update. I hope that the ones having such difficulty with
the product will identify where the problems lie, and be able to remedy them
quickly, but I feel that it's a bit premature to place the blame for all
these problems on Microsoft's shoulders.

JRB


"Bassem Srouji" wrote in message
.. .
I had my part of problem installing SP2
everything go streight forward and my computer was up and running after
installing SP2 and then
I realise that my second hard drive is no longer seen by windows so I had
my
C drive which was ok, but my H Drive which is my second hard drive on the
computer was listed in my computer but every time I try to access it it
say
can not find path ...

I had to remove SP2 and then everything came back to normal

Bassem

"Steve" wrote in message
...
I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system before
I installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I had
McAfee Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with
windows security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it as
generic as possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling the
dumb, !@#$!@ windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be accessible
from outside the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a random
port -- it has no significance by the way) to be accessed from outside
the network. I then switched the firewall OFF and it STILL "silently"
firewalled my computer WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL of
this, INTERNET EXPLORER started misbehaving. Every time I try browsing a
site, I have to refresh bloody ten times to get it to display the page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and God knows what else. I'm tired of this.. I've
uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my computer becomes USABLE again.
DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know nothing about computers and all you
do on your desktop is check emails and use MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!

STEVE!

JRB wrote:

I have just finished reading many of the replies to this message, and I
must say: Wow! There are alot of "developers" out there having problems,
and flying off the handle without being completely informed. I call them
"developers" only because they are using Visual Studio (and that's the only
reason). Like so many others out there, I have a pretty heavily loaded
development environment (including AV running) and I installed SP2 without
incident. Everything has worked wonderfully ever since and I'm fairly
impressed with the update. I hope that the ones having such difficulty with
the product will identify where the problems lie, and be able to remedy them
quickly, but I feel that it's a bit premature to place the blame for all
these problems on Microsoft's shoulders.

I suspect your sample of one is at least as biased an estimator of the
true fraction of problems as the sampling obtained by reading this
thread...

If people are so worried about security, they shouldn't be using windows in
the first place... Even point and click too hard for you, consider buying a
type writer.

Well, I am sure there are others that experience problems with SP2. I agree
with others that Steve came down from the hill a little strong on the other
hand I did experience a weird problem in IE after installing SP2m not on all
machines but still.

Even if popup blocker is turned off, IE still seems to put its digital
fingers on it but allowing the new window to open but then the pages seems to
hang. When I press the stop button followed by the Go button the requested
page comes up just fine.

I haven't had a chance to research it further but if there are others that
know of this problem and have a solution, please let me know.

Thanks,

Wayne,

If you have a software problem, take a deep breath, a warm shower, a nice
cup-a-coffee then just solve it!

"Steve" wrote:

I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system before
I installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I had
McAfee Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with
windows security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it as
generic as possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling the
dumb, !@#$!@ windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be accessible
from outside the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a random
port -- it has no significance by the way) to be accessed from outside
the network. I then switched the firewall OFF and it STILL "silently"
firewalled my computer WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL of
this, INTERNET EXPLORER started misbehaving. Every time I try browsing a
site, I have to refresh bloody ten times to get it to display the page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and God knows what else. I'm tired of this.. I've
uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my computer becomes USABLE again.
DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know nothing about computers and all you
do on your desktop is check emails and use MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!

STEVE!

Steve I could not agree with you more. I think every one should boycot SP2 ..
it sux
SP2 completely destroyed the network I had running perfectly at home. It
took me a whole freeking day to fix everything. What the heck was Microsoft
Thinking

"Steve" wrote:

I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system before
I installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I had
McAfee Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with
windows security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it as
generic as possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling the
dumb, !@#$!@ windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be accessible
from outside the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a random
port -- it has no significance by the way) to be accessed from outside
the network. I then switched the firewall OFF and it STILL "silently"
firewalled my computer WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL of
this, INTERNET EXPLORER started misbehaving. Every time I try browsing a
site, I have to refresh bloody ten times to get it to display the page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and God knows what else. I'm tired of this.. I've
uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my computer becomes USABLE again.
DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know nothing about computers and all you
do on your desktop is check emails and use MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!

STEVE!

"What the heck was Microsoft Thinking"
Easy, security.
Learn how to use it properly instead of simply discarding security so
quickly.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Marc" wrote in message
...
Steve I could not agree with you more. I think every one should
boycot SP2 ..
it sux
SP2 completely destroyed the network I had running perfectly at
home. It
took me a whole freeking day to fix everything. What the heck was
Microsoft
Thinking

Microsoft should have labled it SP2 Beta.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

"What the heck was Microsoft Thinking"
Easy, security.
Learn how to use it properly instead of simply discarding security so
quickly.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Marc" wrote in message
...
Steve I could not agree with you more. I think every one should
boycot SP2 ..
it sux
SP2 completely destroyed the network I had running perfectly at
home. It
took me a whole freeking day to fix everything. What the heck was
Microsoft
Thinking

The popup blocker in SP2 is driving me crazy. Its a total pain when tring to
develop and run web apps in whideby. I can completely turn off popup blocking
and when running an website in whideby's new virtual iis it just blocks all
popups anyway. Does anyone have any ideas?? I think I am going to get rid of
SP2.



"Steve" wrote:

I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system before
I installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I had
McAfee Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with
windows security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it as
generic as possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling the
dumb, !@#$!@ windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be accessible
from outside the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a random
port -- it has no significance by the way) to be accessed from outside
the network. I then switched the firewall OFF and it STILL "silently"
firewalled my computer WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL of
this, INTERNET EXPLORER started misbehaving. Every time I try browsing a
site, I have to refresh bloody ten times to get it to display the page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and God knows what else. I'm tired of this.. I've
uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my computer becomes USABLE again.
DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know nothing about computers and all you
do on your desktop is check emails and use MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!

STEVE!

You can go to internet options...advanced tab and check allow active
content to run in My Computer.

"CODER" wrote in message
...
The popup blocker in SP2 is driving me crazy. Its a total pain when
tring to
develop and run web apps in whideby. I can completely turn off popup
blocking
and when running an website in whideby's new virtual iis it just
blocks all
popups anyway. Does anyone have any ideas?? I think I am going to
get rid of
SP2.



"Steve" wrote:

I had a PERFECTLY normal, secure, wonderful (hah!) running system
before
I installed SP2 for Windows XP, which destroyed EVERYTHING!!!! I
had
McAfee Security Service running, which apparently conflicted with
windows security, in spite of windows trying their best to make it
as
generic as possible. Well, after UNINSTALLING mcafee and telling
the
dumb, !@#$!@ windows Firewall to shutup and let port 10277 be
accessible
from outside the network, it still did NOT allow 10277 (just a
random
port -- it has no significance by the way) to be accessed from
outside
the network. I then switched the firewall OFF and it STILL
"silently"
firewalled my computer WITHOUT my concent!!!!!THEN! on top of ALL
of
this, INTERNET EXPLORER started misbehaving. Every time I try
browsing a
site, I have to refresh bloody ten times to get it to display the
page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and God knows what else. I'm tired of this.. I've
uninstalled it and I am PRAYING that my computer becomes USABLE
again.
DO NOT INSTALL SP2 unless you know nothing about computers and all
you
do on your desktop is check emails and use MICROSOFT'S MSN!!!

STEVE!