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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
"anonymous" I get asked to install updates all the time. this is the only
one that screwed up my system. If there were all types of "procedures" that needed adhering to for SP2, Microsoft should have given a tad more notice. No offense, but we users don't have time to be computer geeks. We don't want to know how our TV works either. We just want it to work! " wrote: JIM, I am sorry to here that you lost some email but, had you actually followed the instruction for installing sp2 you would not have this problem. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx pay paticular note to: "Before You Download SP2": 7. Perform a full backup of all your files. and 9. Close all open programs.(this includes Antivirus, firewalls, messengers, any program that is running in the background that are not part of the OS) so stop crying about the service pack and learn how to use it. PS. if your DBX files are not on the drive then they are most likley GONE. OLEXP: Mail Folders, Address Book, and E-mail Messages Are Missing After You Upgrade to Microsoft Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;313055 All the Best. |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
Jon & Frank, I've been able to recover most stuff (except my address book). THANKS! "Frank Jelenko" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. The previous messages should be stored in C:\Documents and Settings\[the user you are set up as]\Local Settings\Applications\Identities\[some long alpha-numeric character string]\Microsoft\Outlook Express. I'm guessing you will see at least two different long alpha-numeric character strings. One is the new one you just set up, one is the one you were using before. You can import the messages via File, Import, Messages, [choose the version of Outlook Express], browse to the location above. Your Windows Address Book [WAB] is stored in C:\Documents and Settings\[the user you are set up as]\Applications\Microsoft\Address Book. There should be at least two WAB files - one new one and one from your previous config. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. Not sure about this one. I'd call you ISP/mail service provider. Even though the problem may be with installing SP2, they should be able to confirm you're set up right. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
I've got news for you Jim. I've had three updates that
have crashed my computer. (Though never a service pack.) ALWAYS backup before installing ANYTHING. ALWAYS backup anything important. These are the most basic rules of using any computer. Not backing up is like not fastening your seatbelt or jumping out of a plane without a parachute. Software goes wrong, disks crash, users make mistakes, computers get stolen or hacked. BACKUP ANYTHING IMPORTANT!!!!!! don't want to know how our TV works either. I'll bet you know that you shouldn't stick your tongue inside it. Backing up your data is about the same as that. |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
In my opinion, SP2 is a great upgrade.
However, also in my opinion, Microsoft was too confident (incorrectly, as it turned out) that virtually no users would have any major problems with it. In Microsoft's defense, the amount of testing that they did was unprecedented, and I don't think that there is anything more that they could have done to have made this release more "problem free". Part of the "problem" is that the user base is not "techies", and doesn't even know what a BIOS, Prescott or Firewall are, much less how to use any of them. The lesson here is that you just can't release an upgrade of this magnitude which is going to be so problem free for everyone that you should go out and tell the entire world to just turn on automatic updates and get it automatically. Hopefully, this is a lesson that MS has now leared as well. |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...s/kimball.mspx
-----Original Message----- On what do you base this on: "SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas." The likelihood of that happening is almost nonexistent and almost without precedent other than these 2: 1. A Service Pack for NT with far greater problems than Windows SP-2. 2. Windows XP SP-1a released as part of a court settlement with Sun. Microsoft Virtual Machine was removed from SP-1 changing it to SP-1a. NOTHING else was changed even though there were numerous fixes already available. Since SP-2 is 2, it is not the first release, SP-1 was. If you wait for an update of SP-2, you will most likely wait forever since the most likely event is SP-3 in a year or two. Instead research and prepare your computer: http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm Or you can wait forever...your choice. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "M$" wrote in message ... Well that goes to show once again - NEVER INSTALL the first release on anything!!!! In 13 years I have never seen or heard of a good reason for doing so. While SP2 may have some needed fixes, it is NEVER so critical that it cannot wait a while till the major bugs are worked out. A set of good practices and common sense will go farther then any SP ever will in protecting your PC. What are the folks doing that have W2k, Win98, Me, etc.? No, the sky is not falling! SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas. "Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim . |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
To Jon & Frank......THANKS! To all who say we should've known this update
was drastically different from the myriad of updates I get every few weeks, well, use your imagination! "NoNoBadDog!" wrote: Jim; First of all, there are 2 reasons that you have received no responses;\ 1. You failed to follow the installation instructions by not backing up important data prior to installation. 2. The method used to recover Outlook Express files has been posted in this newsgroup several times. You merely need to search for it. In addition, the problem you are having can be solved by using Google. Had you "Googled" your problem, you would have had it fixed by now. Bobby "Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
Excellent
[PS I think Frank meant here for the address book C:\Documents and Settings\[Your username]\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book Click on the .wab files] "Jim" wrote in message ... To Jon & Frank......THANKS! To all who say we should've known this update was drastically different from the myriad of updates I get every few weeks, well, use your imagination! "NoNoBadDog!" wrote: Jim; First of all, there are 2 reasons that you have received no responses;\ 1. You failed to follow the installation instructions by not backing up important data prior to installation. 2. The method used to recover Outlook Express files has been posted in this newsgroup several times. You merely need to search for it. In addition, the problem you are having can be solved by using Google. Had you "Googled" your problem, you would have had it fixed by now. Bobby "Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
NB Also the folders may be hidden on your system so you may need to
Open "My Computer" Tools Internet Options View Check "Show hidden files and folders" Uncheck "Hide protected operating system files" ok Then try navigating to the folders as previously May be able to retrieve a bit more this way Jon "Jon" wrote in message ... Excellent [PS I think Frank meant here for the address book C:\Documents and Settings\[Your username]\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book Click on the .wab files] "Jim" wrote in message ... To Jon & Frank......THANKS! To all who say we should've known this update was drastically different from the myriad of updates I get every few weeks, well, use your imagination! "NoNoBadDog!" wrote: Jim; First of all, there are 2 reasons that you have received no responses;\ 1. You failed to follow the installation instructions by not backing up important data prior to installation. 2. The method used to recover Outlook Express files has been posted in this newsgroup several times. You merely need to search for it. In addition, the problem you are having can be solved by using Google. Had you "Googled" your problem, you would have had it fixed by now. Bobby "Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
The information I posted earlier was avaliable a month before the service pack was released. (if not longer) In reply to your wanting your TV to work You don't have to know how to read to use a TV. -----Original Message----- "anonymous" I get asked to install updates all the time. this is the only one that screwed up my system. If there were all types of "procedures" that needed adhering to for SP2, Microsoft should have given a tad more notice. No offense, but we users don't have time to be computer geeks. We don't want to know how our TV works either. We just want it to work! " wrote: JIM, I am sorry to here that you lost some email but, had you actually followed the instruction for installing sp2 you would not have this problem. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx pay paticular note to: "Before You Download SP2": 7. Perform a full backup of all your files. and 9. Close all open programs.(this includes Antivirus, firewalls, messengers, any program that is running in the background that are not part of the OS) so stop crying about the service pack and learn how to use it. PS. if your DBX files are not on the drive then they are most likley GONE. OLEXP: Mail Folders, Address Book, and E-mail Messages Are Missing After You Upgrade to Microsoft Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;313055 All the Best. . |
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Jim wrote:
"anonymous" I get asked to install updates all the time. this is the only one that screwed up my system. If there were all types of "procedures" that needed adhering to for SP2, Microsoft should have given a tad more notice. No offense, but we users don't have time to be computer geeks. We don't want to know how our TV works either. We just want it to work! And indeed it does. MS makes no allowance for PEBCAK errors. I backed up, patched my software, updated drivers, defragged, scanned for viruses and spy/malware and - guess what?! - zero problems. If you fail to prepare - prepare to fail. Funny that... Another couple of points. 1) System Restore does *NOT* switch itself of. You must have turned it off and forgotten to turn it back on. 2) System restore has no effect on personal files. It backs up and restores system files only. Data files are *NOT* recorded. SR is *NOT* a back up application and should not be treated as such. If you want to back up your system (and I do weekly) then I suggest you purchase an imaging application. Drive Image 7 was my application of choice but, when Symantec bought PowerQuest they discontinued it. I have heard good things about Ghost 9, though I haven't used it myself. -- My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually lose his marbles? |
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Testy wrote:
Ahh a former military man, that explains a lot of his drivel. Testy "jupiter is a man ^^^^^^^^^" wrote in message ... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...s/kimball.mspx -----Original Message----- On what do you base this on: "SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas." The likelihood of that happening is almost nonexistent and almost without precedent other than these 2: 1. A Service Pack for NT with far greater problems than Windows SP-2. 2. Windows XP SP-1a released as part of a court settlement with Sun. Microsoft Virtual Machine was removed from SP-1 changing it to SP-1a. NOTHING else was changed even though there were numerous fixes already available. Since SP-2 is 2, it is not the first release, SP-1 was. If you wait for an update of SP-2, you will most likely wait forever since the most likely event is SP-3 in a year or two. Instead research and prepare your computer: http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm Or you can wait forever...your choice. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "M$" wrote in message ... Well that goes to show once again - NEVER INSTALL the first release on anything!!!! In 13 years I have never seen or heard of a good reason for doing so. While SP2 may have some needed fixes, it is NEVER so critical that it cannot wait a while till the major bugs are worked out. A set of good practices and common sense will go farther then any SP ever will in protecting your PC. What are the folks doing that have W2k, Win98, Me, etc.? No, the sky is not falling! SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas. "Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim . --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 9/6/2004 Fix your date and time. |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
I always get a kick out of people who make something like a SP their
religion. What religious fervor! This is just to funny!!!! Everyone must install SP2 NOW!!!! or all you SP2 infidels will be shot!!! Decreed by SP Osama CNN is reporting that a sleeper cell has high jacked emails and is going to crush them into Windows XP machines that do not have SP2 installed! Quick install SP2! Dumb, too late! You have been terrorized! Too bad, you were warned by the MS FBI but failed to take appropriate action. Ha! Ha! "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message ... On what do you base this on: "SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas." The likelihood of that happening is almost nonexistent and almost without precedent other than these 2: 1. A Service Pack for NT with far greater problems than Windows SP-2. 2. Windows XP SP-1a released as part of a court settlement with Sun. Microsoft Virtual Machine was removed from SP-1 changing it to SP-1a. NOTHING else was changed even though there were numerous fixes already available. Since SP-2 is 2, it is not the first release, SP-1 was. If you wait for an update of SP-2, you will most likely wait forever since the most likely event is SP-3 in a year or two. Instead research and prepare your computer: http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm Or you can wait forever...your choice. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "M$" wrote in message ... Well that goes to show once again - NEVER INSTALL the first release on anything!!!! In 13 years I have never seen or heard of a good reason for doing so. While SP2 may have some needed fixes, it is NEVER so critical that it cannot wait a while till the major bugs are worked out. A set of good practices and common sense will go farther then any SP ever will in protecting your PC. What are the folks doing that have W2k, Win98, Me, etc.? No, the sky is not falling! SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas. "Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim |
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"Miss Perspicacia Tick" and "Anonimous"
Do you also overhaul your car's engine everytime you get a new tank of gas? Geez, you computer people crack me up! I'm supposed to get 75 CD's and backup my 60 gig HD, defrag, update all software, paint my house, resod my lawn, etc, every time Microsoft sends an update? GET REAL! "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote: Jim wrote: "anonymous" I get asked to install updates all the time. this is the only one that screwed up my system. If there were all types of "procedures" that needed adhering to for SP2, Microsoft should have given a tad more notice. No offense, but we users don't have time to be computer geeks. We don't want to know how our TV works either. We just want it to work! And indeed it does. MS makes no allowance for PEBCAK errors. I backed up, patched my software, updated drivers, defragged, scanned for viruses and spy/malware and - guess what?! - zero problems. If you fail to prepare - prepare to fail. Funny that... Another couple of points. 1) System Restore does *NOT* switch itself of. You must have turned it off and forgotten to turn it back on. 2) System restore has no effect on personal files. It backs up and restores system files only. Data files are *NOT* recorded. SR is *NOT* a back up application and should not be treated as such. If you want to back up your system (and I do weekly) then I suggest you purchase an imaging application. Drive Image 7 was my application of choice but, when Symantec bought PowerQuest they discontinued it. I have heard good things about Ghost 9, though I haven't used it myself. -- My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually lose his marbles? |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft employees) say it so great. Nope, I am a computer tech and this is the best ever Service Pack. Windows Firewall let's you have a small home network without having to be a techy. Your email is still there, but it is in a different folder, look it up on groups.google.com type in keywords in the search window Upgrade to XP SP2 has deleted all my old e-mail messages reply by Steve Cochran 6. How does one backup and restore or transfer OE messages and settings: See: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/backup/index.htm http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx Note that there is also a link in this article to MVP David Guess's free OEBackup programs (www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/) or http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/ http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/ oebackupfull2.9.zip - the full installation with all support files. In a high volume newsgroup some posts are going to get overlooked. It is practically quicker and more efficient to use Google in many cases. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=kb;en-us;q313055 http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2 Netscape changed the location of where email was stored between version 6 and version 7, which was then not automatically imported. Some people change the default storage location on the hard drive so import needs to be done manually. A minor inconvenience. Use your OE backup if you can't find these files. You have been told many times to make backups and for SP2 you were told again to make a backup of important files. When you run into a problem which could be corrected by having a backup it is nobody's fault but your own that you have a problem because creating a backup was just too much for you to trouble yourself with. So instead of accepting this responsibility you try to put the blame on Microsoft. Computers were only invented about 55 years ago. Software that runs on them will not approach perfection for centuries to come. That is why you need backups. You remind me of people who drive cars and never choose to check the oil even though they know they are "supposed" to. I've installed Sp2 for eleven clients. Nine no problems. One required a re-installation of a program. The other needed the service pack upgrade rerun from the harddrive. Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help! Here's my problem: Installed service pack 2. It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express." The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured, Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail. How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail. Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off. Thanks - Jim If you can be bothered to read my email and the links contained therein, you will find the solution to recover your files. |
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All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,
-----Original Message----- "Miss Perspicacia Tick" and "Anonimous" Do you also overhaul your car's engine everytime you get a new tank of gas? No and I don't overhaul my computer when new electrons go into it either. I do however, wear my seatbelt, keep my tires properly inflated, keep my coolant and oil levels appropriate, rotate my tires, check my transmission and break fluid etc. I also balance my checkbook, clean my gutters, dust, take out the trash and backup my computer. Geez, you computer people crack me up! If your data isn't important then why did you complain when you thought you had lost it? If you want to treat your computer like a TV, go ahead. But don't be surprised when your computer does as good a job at saving your data as your TV does at saving your shows. 75 CDs? You have that much email? Please at least drag yourself into the 1990s and use DVDs. Consider backing up to other disks as well. I can do a full image of my system in under 30 minutes with no user interaction. (ie I watch my TV while my computer backs itself up.) |
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