Top posters This month Nov 2009

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Peter Foldes wrote:
My post is at the bottom as some desired
snipped - see above
And now is my turn to write to this post

Chapter 62 and I hope you all enjoyed the book

Peter,

I believe you were chapter 20, not 62. ;-)

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"Steve Hayes" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:00:12 -0000, "Olórin"
wrote:

"Steve Hayes" wrote in message

No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are
replying
to.

And yes, that goes for e-mails as well.

Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about
e-mail,
here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never in a business
setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their way up through
exchanges, and without their heads exploding.

This, however, is not a forum for discussing netiquette, but rather for
discussing one particular operating system.

I suggest you Google "netiquette" for more information.



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uk

Fully aware of "netiquette", thanks very much, but see this thread's title.
It wasn't an "XP Basics" issue in the first place, more of a diversion, so
your post is as much OT as mine - if either is. :-)

Do you police folks' posting formats at the same time as wearing your Off
Topic hat, or does that have its own little badge?

But there wasn't a problem raised in this thread. Having never really seen
it discussed, I was curious about top-posting in e-mails, as opposed to
newsgroups, and this seemed like an appropriate thread to bring it up in.

I wasn't seeking perfection (although striving for ease-of-reading is surely
no bad thing?), I don't know where you got that from.


"Andy" wrote in message
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WHO cares just answer a posters post if you can help.
this isn't perfection class is it?


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"Olórin" wrote in message
...
I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone
should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with
what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and
top-post?

(He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!)


"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...

: Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

Net nannies like you.

But there wasn't a problem raised in this thread. Having never really seen
it discussed, I was curious about top-posting in e-mails, as opposed to
newsgroups, and this seemed like an appropriate thread to bring it up in.

I wasn't seeking perfection (although striving for ease-of-reading is surely
no bad thing?), I don't know where you got that from.


"Andy" wrote in message
...
WHO cares just answer a posters post if you can help.
this isn't perfection class is it?


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AL'S COMPUTERS
"Olórin" wrote in message
...
I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone
should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with
what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and
top-post?

(He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!)


"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...

: Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

Net nannies like you.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:38:31 -0000, "Olórin"
wrote:

Fully aware of "netiquette", thanks very much, but see this thread's title.
It wasn't an "XP Basics" issue in the first place, more of a diversion, so
your post is as much OT as mine - if either is. :-)

Do you police folks' posting formats at the same time as wearing your Off
Topic hat, or does that have its own little badge?

You asked a question, and I tried to answer it. If you think that is policing
peoples' posting formats then you shouldn't have asked.

But I don't think this forum is the right place for a prolonged discussion on
the topic.



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Shenan

I know but I was trying to make a point

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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
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The post in its entirety:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...b5c76d5be72bf/



Peter Foldes wrote:
My post is at the bottom as some desired
snipped - see above
And now is my turn to write to this post

Chapter 62 and I hope you all enjoyed the book

Peter,

I believe you were chapter 20, not 62. ;-)

--
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MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Shenan

I know but I was trying to make a point

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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
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The post in its entirety:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...b5c76d5be72bf/



Peter Foldes wrote:
My post is at the bottom as some desired
snipped - see above
And now is my turn to write to this post

Chapter 62 and I hope you all enjoyed the book

Peter,

I believe you were chapter 20, not 62. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

JD wrote:
Daave wrote:
Rick Merrill wrote:
I thought "top posters" were bad and "bottom posters" were good?!

They're both superior to those who trim the entire text they are
replying to. ;-)



Top posters are the Devil. You are forced to read the message and rely
upside down. The end is the beginning. People that trim useless text
when they reply are OK by me. What really bothers me is people that
don't use their smell checkers. There is nothing like bad smelling.

So they're.

So their.

So there.

8-)

But sometimes I have to turn my smell checker off after eating beans or
cabbage (especially if I've been eating beans AND cabbage!).

JD wrote:
Daave wrote:
Rick Merrill wrote:
I thought "top posters" were bad and "bottom posters" were good?!

They're both superior to those who trim the entire text they are
replying to. ;-)



Top posters are the Devil. You are forced to read the message and rely
upside down. The end is the beginning. People that trim useless text
when they reply are OK by me. What really bothers me is people that
don't use their smell checkers. There is nothing like bad smelling.

So they're.

So their.

So there.

8-)

But sometimes I have to turn my smell checker off after eating beans or
cabbage (especially if I've been eating beans AND cabbage!).

ok i have just seen alot of complaining by others about top posting.
as i see if if somone askes a qustion and somone gives them an answer its ok
by me .



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"Olórin" wrote in message
...
But there wasn't a problem raised in this thread. Having never really seen
it discussed, I was curious about top-posting in e-mails, as opposed to
newsgroups, and this seemed like an appropriate thread to bring it up in.

I wasn't seeking perfection (although striving for ease-of-reading is
surely no bad thing?), I don't know where you got that from.


"Andy" wrote in message
...
WHO cares just answer a posters post if you can help.
this isn't perfection class is it?


--
AL'S COMPUTERS
"Olórin" wrote in message
...
I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone
should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with
what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and
top-post?

(He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!)


"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...

: Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

Net nannies like you.

ok i have just seen alot of complaining by others about top posting.
as i see if if somone askes a qustion and somone gives them an answer its ok
by me .



--
AL'S COMPUTERS
"Olórin" wrote in message
...
But there wasn't a problem raised in this thread. Having never really seen
it discussed, I was curious about top-posting in e-mails, as opposed to
newsgroups, and this seemed like an appropriate thread to bring it up in.

I wasn't seeking perfection (although striving for ease-of-reading is
surely no bad thing?), I don't know where you got that from.


"Andy" wrote in message
...
WHO cares just answer a posters post if you can help.
this isn't perfection class is it?


--
AL'S COMPUTERS
"Olórin" wrote in message
...
I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that everyone
should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along with
what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and
top-post?

(He *killfiles* people who top-post? Sheesh!)


"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...

: Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

Net nannies like you.

In ,
Steve Hayes typed:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin"
wrote:

I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that
everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go
along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of
people do, and top-post?

No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are
replying to.

And yes, that goes for e-mails as well.

"No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and
read backwards."
"Only thing is ... I forgot where we started."
"How right you are."
"Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?"
"Maybe they're just not as clever as we are."
"I wonder why nobody else top-posts?"
"That's nice."
"I'm a top-poster too."
"Yes."
"Are you a top-poster?"
"Hi."
"Hi."

A conversation between two top-posters:

And, it's fine. Each already knows what they said to the other. Seldom to
they have to look thru the historical part of the posts. It's faster, the
response is right there in front of them with no need to scroll down to get
to the response of a longer post, and they are quite happy with their
conversation.
If you're coming into the middle of the conversation, that's your
problem: The post wasn't addressed to you. And that makes this example your
problem, no one elses.

HTH,

Twayne`

In ,
Steve Hayes typed:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin"
wrote:

I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that
everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go
along with what (in my experience) the overwhelming majority of
people do, and top-post?

No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are
replying to.

And yes, that goes for e-mails as well.

"No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and
read backwards."
"Only thing is ... I forgot where we started."
"How right you are."
"Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?"
"Maybe they're just not as clever as we are."
"I wonder why nobody else top-posts?"
"That's nice."
"I'm a top-poster too."
"Yes."
"Are you a top-poster?"
"Hi."
"Hi."

A conversation between two top-posters:

And, it's fine. Each already knows what they said to the other. Seldom to
they have to look thru the historical part of the posts. It's faster, the
response is right there in front of them with no need to scroll down to get
to the response of a longer post, and they are quite happy with their
conversation.
If you're coming into the middle of the conversation, that's your
problem: The post wasn't addressed to you. And that makes this example your
problem, no one elses.

HTH,

Twayne`

In ,
Unknown typed:
Simply ignore those that complain about top posting.

Better yet, if you don't like it, don't read it. There's no one forcing you
to read posts that annoy you. I love top/bottom/inline posting threads; the
idiots and narcissists all just come crawling out of the woodwork with their
own attempts to force it to be one way or the other. On Usenet, wysiwyg I'm
afraid and expecting anyone to change to accomodate YOU is your own problem.
Don't like it? Don't read it next time.

HTH,

Twayne`



"Olórin" wrote in message
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"Steve Hayes" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin"
wrote:

I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that
everyone should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or
go along with what
(in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and
top-post?

No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are
replying to.

And yes, that goes for e-mails as well.

"No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and
read backwards."
"Only thing is ... I forgot where we started."
"How right you are."
"Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?"
"Maybe they're just not as clever as we are."
"I wonder why nobody else top-posts?"
"That's nice."
"I'm a top-poster too."
"Yes."
"Are you a top-poster?"
"Hi."
"Hi."

A conversation between two top-posters:

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org
full stop uk

Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about
e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and never
in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to work their
way up through exchanges, and without their heads exploding.

In ,
JD typed:
John John - MVP wrote:
Unknown wrote:
Simply ignore those that complain about top posting.
"Olórin" wrote in message
...
"Steve Hayes" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:01:00 -0000, "Olórin"
wrote:

I'm always curious about those who *insist* in newsgroups that
everyone
should bottom-post - do they do the same in e-mails, or go along
with what
(in my experience) the overwhelming majority of people do, and
top-post?
No you should post your reply immediately below the text you are
replying to.

And yes, that goes for e-mails as well.

"No problem at all. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and
read backwards."
"Only thing is ... I forgot where we started."
"How right you are."
"Yeah ... sure does make us stand out, doesn't it?"
"Maybe they're just not as clever as we are."
"I wonder why nobody else top-posts?"
"That's nice."
"I'm a top-poster too."
"Yes."
"Are you a top-poster?"
"Hi."
"Hi."

A conversation between two top-posters:

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org
full stop uk
Okay, that's one opinion on the way to work (I'm just talking about
e-mail, here). Just one that I've rarely seen in practice, and
never in a business setting. If necessary, people DO manage to
work their way up through exchanges, and without their heads
exploding.

I bottom posted down here just to further confuse things and to annoy
others by making them scroll down here for nothing... I'm sure
someone will complain that I should have snipped...

John

Did you see the part about Kill Files?

Kill Files are useless these days. You still see the killed poster in the
responses.