Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:

Mark Twain wrote:
I had no idea I had accumulated so much
usage on the drive!


I suppose when it gets full I'll have to
buy another HD for the computer just for
storage.

With the size of drives now and by the time
I need one, they should be fairly cheap. Is
one brand better than another or size or drive
construction?


Robert

You check the reviews on each model in question,
at sites like Newegg or Amazon. As some models
turn out to be bad news. Not every drive is
flaw-free when released.

One of the reasons this happens, is the
flying height on the heads is now so low, as
to be impractical. The platters need to be polished
to a mirror finish, just so the head doesn't
"bump" on a blemish on the surface. So it's a very
precise design. And there are signs that hard
drives "wear", rather than being frictionless.
The flying height might be 30X lower than when
disks first came out. They fly a lot closer to
the platter now.

Paul

Hello Paul,

This has been popping up the
last few days or so and malwarebtes
has detected items but so far has been
able to delete them but they seem to
return and I wonder if this is connected
to that.

http://i57.tinypic.com/vff9ep.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/eziesh.jpg


Avast scans come up clean

Thanks
Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
Hello Paul,

This has been popping up the
last few days or so and malwarebtes
has detected items but so far has been
able to delete them but they seem to
return and I wonder if this is connected
to that.

http://i57.tinypic.com/vff9ep.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/eziesh.jpg


Avast scans come up clean

Thanks
Robert

Hahaha. Good one :-)

I bet you were fooling around with Java from Oracle.

You downloaded Java, there was a tick box for
Chrome web browser, and you didn't notice.

Now, you have Chrome web browser running
on the 8200 :-)

That's not malware - that's "pushy Google".

In my opinion.

I don't use Chrome, but your second picture
seems to confirm that's what it is. I'm looking
at a new browser you just installed :-)

And that's why it doesn't show up in a malware
scan. It's a legit program, delivered in a
sleazy way. Google pays Oracle a dollar
when that happens.

Paul

I went into Add/Remove to uninstall
Chrome but it's not there so how do
I remove it? Uninstall Java?


Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I went into Add/Remove to uninstall
Chrome but it's not there so how do
I remove it? Uninstall Java?


Robert


https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95319?hl=en

Uninstall Chrome in Windows XP

1. Close all Chrome windows and tabs.
2. Go to the& Start menu Control Panel.
3. Click Add or Remove Programs.
4. Double-click Google Chrome. ---
5. Click Remove.
6. Click Uninstall from the confirmation dialog.
If you want to delete your user profile information,
like your browser preferences, bookmarks, and history,
select the "Also delete your browsing data" checkbox.

Maybe it's hiding as "Google Chrome" ?

I've never run Chrome here, so I don't know the answer.

Paul

The PCI card arrived today and installation
was a breeze and the 8200 recognized it as
plug n play, so need for drivers.

I did an update for Macrium as I did on the
8500 and then ran the same backup on the
8200 with with the same defaults and only
changed the title:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2udw12v.jpg

I don't use Chrome either. I had a pop-up
for updates to Java. Being cautious I went into
my installed Java and looked for any updates. As
you surmised, I overlooked the ticked installation
box for Chrome and now I want to remove it because
it pops up every time I start the 8200 and is
annoying.

Chrome or Google Chrome isn't in Add/Remove or
Downloads or Programs at least I can't find it.
So I ran Agent Ransack:

http://i58.tinypic.com/34njnzs.jpg

The problem is, the chrome.exe file path is pointing
to 'Lt Commander' but I changed the Administrators name
to 'Commander' to match the 8500 so the file is pointing
incorrectly. I don't know about all the other files,..

http://i57.tinypic.com/161nuc0.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/2z3wd1e.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/6yyvwi.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/kds8dz.jpg

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
The PCI card arrived today and installation
was a breeze and the 8200 recognized it as
plug n play, so need for drivers.

I did an update for Macrium as I did on the
8500 and then ran the same backup on the
8200 with with the same defaults and only
changed the title:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2udw12v.jpg

I don't use Chrome either. I had a pop-up
for updates to Java. Being cautious I went into
my installed Java and looked for any updates. As
you surmised, I overlooked the ticked installation
box for Chrome and now I want to remove it because
it pops up every time I start the 8200 and is
annoying.

Chrome or Google Chrome isn't in Add/Remove or
Downloads or Programs at least I can't find it.
So I ran Agent Ransack:

http://i58.tinypic.com/34njnzs.jpg

The problem is, the chrome.exe file path is pointing
to 'Lt Commander' but I changed the Administrators name
to 'Commander' to match the 8500 so the file is pointing
incorrectly. I don't know about all the other files,..

http://i57.tinypic.com/161nuc0.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/2z3wd1e.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/6yyvwi.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/kds8dz.jpg

Robert

Sorry for the delay. It took me a lot of slugging
to get a whiff of how to uninstall it. First, I tried
to use the Java download to get a copy of Chrome
like you did. But that didn't work. So I had to
go to www.google.com/chrome and get a copy.

And the installer is very sneaky, so I didn't get
a chance to give it a workup, before it installed
itself. It didn't mess around. About as polite
as a piece of malware.

On my Win7 test install, the Programs and Features
had an entry, which I could use for un-installation.
So it did leave an entry there.

But because I know you don't have "Google Chrome" there,
then we can't use that.

Another article, said to check WMIC subsystem, but
that went out the window too. My install didn't have
the correct info in the list. No reason for yours
to have better info. It should be messed up too.

Now, I could find a folder with the following three
files in it. Since I did this in Windows 7, the path
won't be immediately useful to you on WinXP. The "setup.exe"
file is key to uninstalling the thing.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\43.0.2357.130\Inst aller

chrmstp.exe 990,024 bytes
chrome.7z 154,964,788 bytes
setup.exe 990,024 bytes

Notice that the "7z" is a complete archive of the
installed package. Intended (I presume) to reinstall
the program. So I started looking for an uninstall
recipe using that file.

In this article, they show how to use it.

http://www.itninja.com/question/how-...sion-uninstall

I opened up the command Windows (cmd) selecting Run As Administrator

then ran this:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\39.0.2171.71\Insta ller\setup.exe" --uninstall --multi-install --chrome --system-level

To shorten that a bit, and perhaps adjust for WinXP, that might
look something like this. Assuming your login account has administrator
privileges, it might be sufficient to open a Command Prompt
in WinXP, and do...

cd /d C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\43.0.2357.130\Inst aller

You might need to use File Explorer, and get an exact path,
because I'm just guessing at the form of the path on a
WinXP installation. That big number is the software release
of the Chrome I just installed. Your folder structure
may have several numbers, and you want the most recent one.
It should be somewhat similar to that. Once you successfully
change directories in Command Prompt, you can try the setup command.

setup.exe --uninstall --multi-install --chrome --system-level

Apparently this is not a silent uninstall, so a good deal of
stuff may fly by as it works.

Note that Google (clever people that they are), also have
installed a couple of services. It's possible the
"Google Update" service will be left installed on
the system. But getting rid of Chrome is a start.

So try that much first, and tell me how it goes.

When the above setup.exe command runs, you'll see this dialog.

http://i57.tinypic.com/35m14lz.gif

You can tick the box, because at this point, you
should have just about no browsing data in the
Chrome-specific folders.

Have fun,
Paul

I think I found the file:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2ls7dzp.jpg

I attempted to follow the instructions but my
command prompt reads; Documents and Settings\Lt
Commander

So do I enter: Documents and Settings\Lt
Commander cd/d C:\Documents and Settings\Lt
Commander\Local Settings\Application Data\
Chromium\Application\45.0.2422.0\installer\

or: Documents and Settings\Lt Commander cd/d
C:\Local Settings\Application Data\Chromium\
Application\45.0.2422.0\installer\


Thanks,
Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I think I found the file:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2ls7dzp.jpg

I attempted to follow the instructions but my
command prompt reads; Documents and Settings\Lt
Commander

So do I enter: Documents and Settings\Lt
Commander cd/d C:\Documents and Settings\Lt
Commander\Local Settings\Application Data\
Chromium\Application\45.0.2422.0\installer\

or: Documents and Settings\Lt Commander cd/d
C:\Local Settings\Application Data\Chromium\
Application\45.0.2422.0\installer\


Thanks,
Robert

We're trying to get on the same wavelength here,
so the idea is, to check the directory and see
if the same files as I got, are present.

You can open the Command Prompt and try this.
Make sure there is a space character between
the "cd" and the "/d". And between the "/d"
and the path.

cd /d C:\Documents and Settings\Lt Commander\Local Settings\Application Data\Chromium\Application\45.0.2422.0\installer\

After that, try the "dir" command, as

dir

Then verify that three files are present.
This is what the dir command should have returned.
This is the folder contents.

chrmstp.exe 990,024 bytes
chrome.7z 154,964,788 bytes
setup.exe 990,024 bytes

If you can see those, then you can run the
removal command, which will use the setup.exe
program in the folder.

setup.exe --uninstall --multi-install --chrome --system-level

When you're finished, the folder above will
still exist, but it will be empty.

And just for the record, your conditions are
still a bit weird. Because there is a difference
between "chrome" and "chromium". Chrome is the
program delivered by Google. Chromium is a different
version, some sort of open source version. And I don't
think it is delivered with the same zeal as Chrome is.

Wikipedia says:

Chromium (web browser), the open source counterpart to Google Chrome

Google Chrome is a freeware web browser developed by Google.

Think of it, sorta, like the relationship between
Firefox and Seamonkey.

Now, why this distinction is important, is maybe
you won't find the three files above in that folder.
So using "dir" is important as a discovery tool.

Have a look and tell me what you find. I would
hope they use the same installer code, but you
never know. (I'm having trouble finding a Chromium
binary to install, so I haven't managed to verify
what Chromium does, versus what a Google Chrome
installation does.)

Paul

I switched the Administrators name
back not that it would make much
difference.

I followed your instructions and it
gave me:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2zz2hbc.jpg


I entered DIR just to see what information it
it might give.

Robert

The screenshot doesn't show it but I
tried this twice.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
The screenshot doesn't show it but I
tried this twice.

Robert

You want to do this. Set the directory
first, *then* do the dir command.

cd /d C:\some\directory\of\interest

dir

and then see what files are in the folder
in question. You need to see the directory become
part of the Command Prompt window prompt string.

And the reason I'm doing it this way, is one
of the levels of folder involved, may be hidden.
And we resolved that a previous time, using
another technique (View controls, show
hidden items). But you can just as easily
try to view things from Command Prompt.
Which is what the above is trying to teach
you to do.

*******

I did eventually find a download page for
Chromium open-source browser. The first
link, shows the page I navigated to yesterday,
to find their "latest" copy.

https://commondatastorage.googleapis...ix=Win/335880/

These were the download links. Don't bother to
click these, because you don't need them. It's
just to show what web site the files eventually
came from. It took me *forever* to find these,
because the chromium web setup is such a mess.

https://www.googleapis.com/download/...3000&alt=media
https://www.googleapis.com/download/...6000&alt=media

I think the browser foisted on you was "Chrome"
rather than "Chromium". I just don't like the
installation path that you showed me, which is
why I am suspicious of the whole thing. Continue
trying to confirm what is in the folder.

Paul

Mark Twain wrote:
I switched the Administrators name
back not that it would make much
difference.

I followed your instructions and it
gave me:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2zz2hbc.jpg


I entered DIR just to see what information it
it might give.

Robert

I have a recipe for Chromium now.

The files are stored in here, and I think this matches your
symptoms. Your "setup.exe" was in a folder like this. Note
that the long string of numbers is the software release.
You could have a different release than I was experimenting
with, so you'll need to use the numbers that came with
your copy.

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Chromium\Applicati on\45.0.2441.0\Installer

chrome.7z 149,783,437 bytes
setup.exe 935,424 bytes

You will need to substitute Robert where it says username.
I've done that in the following example.

From a command prompt window, do

cd /d C:\Users\Robert\AppData\Local\Chromium\Application \45.0.2441.0\Installer

dir

setup.exe --install

When you run the "dir" step, you should see two files. This
is different than the Google Chrome case.

The setup.exe accepts different options. The setup.exe command
in this case, would not accept the extra parameters. It only
accepted the one parameter, as shown.

If the setup.exe runs properly, a small square dialog pops
up, asking for confirmation you want to remove the
program.

After you're finished, this folder will still exist, but
everything in the neighborhood will be removed. So about
300MB of files will be deleted. Only the empty folder
remains (because you're CDed to it and the installer
cannot remove it because the folder is "busy").

C:\Users\Robert\AppData\Local\Chromium\Application \45.0.2441.0\Installer

*******

And to repeat the previous recipe, if you had Google Chrome
instead, it is located here, and has this recipe. I don't
think you have Chrome, so you don't want or need this recipe.
But I'm putting it here for future reference anyway.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\43.0.2357.130\Inst aller

chrmstp.exe 990,024 bytes
chrome.7z 154,964,788 bytes
setup.exe 990,024 bytes

From a command prompt window, do

cd /d C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\43.0.2357.130\Inst aller

dir

setup.exe --uninstall --multi-install --chrome --system-level

A square dialog will pop up asking for confirmation. The
folder holding setup.exe will continue to exist, but all the
related files will be deleted. Again, saving the user at least
300MB worth of space.

HTH,
Paul

I tried it 3 different ways with the same result:

http://i61.tinypic.com/29nuujm.jpg

Unless I'm doing something wrong? I'm spacing
between the cd and /d and the /d and C:


Robert

Couldn't we just locate the file with Agent Ransack and delete
it from there?


Robert