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All tray icons greyed out
This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my
tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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All tray icons greyed out
On 10/29/2018 6:54 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Windows version? Build #? -- best regards, Neil |
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All tray icons greyed out
Terry Pinnell wrote:
This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK There's no mention here of what service provides the Notification Icons. And what service dependencies such a service might have. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ification-area You'll notice that the functional definition has a large number of possible states. But no state would be to "display a gray icon". Either an icon is presented (in full color), or an icon is not presented. There is no in-between state. When the icon turns gray, it means something unexpected happened. Check EventViewer. Maybe a log was generated. ******* I can find things like this, references to IconStream and PastIconStream. This implies a representation of the icons is being kept somewhere. Why ? Who knows. How would caching them help ? https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...c-68b599b31bf5 In any case, I can't see how deleting those is going to help in the long run. You would think if the stuff "eventually" appears, any caches would get flushed. I would be more hopeful of an approach like that, if your notification icons were permanently busted. Paul |
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All tray icons greyed out
Neil wrote:
On 10/29/2018 6:54 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Windows version? Build #? This was Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.345). As usual, "You're up to date" lies. So via "Check for update" I've just installed 17134.376. But I don't think that's likely to be the issue, do you? Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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All tray icons greyed out
Terry Pinnell wrote:
Neil wrote: On 10/29/2018 6:54 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Windows version? Build #? This was Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.345). As usual, "You're up to date" lies. So via "Check for update" I've just installed 17134.376. But I don't think that's likely to be the issue, do you? Terry, East Grinstead, UK I have the same version and build but have no problems. So, it probably isn't that. |
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All tray icons greyed out
Terry Pinnell wrote:
This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? https://www.technipages.com/windows-...ification-area Method 1 seems oriented to the battery tray icon being disabled. Try method 2 to clean the cache of icon state. You may need to logoff and login or even have to restart Windows. |
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All tray icons greyed out
On 10/29/2018 10:46 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Neil wrote: On 10/29/2018 6:54 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote: This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK Windows version? Build #? This was Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.345). As usual, "You're up to date" lies. So via "Check for update" I've just installed 17134.376. But I don't think that's likely to be the issue, do you? Terry, East Grinstead, UK I'm on the same version 1803 but with build 17134.347 and haven't seen the problems you describe. It sounds like an app may be the issue. Did you check the activity in Task Manager and error logs when this happens? -- best regards, Neil |
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All tray icons greyed out
Paul wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote: This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK There's no mention here of what service provides the Notification Icons. And what service dependencies such a service might have. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ification-area You'll notice that the functional definition has a large number of possible states. But no state would be to "display a gray icon". Either an icon is presented (in full color), or an icon is not presented. There is no in-between state. When the icon turns gray, it means something unexpected happened. Check EventViewer. Maybe a log was generated. ******* I can find things like this, references to IconStream and PastIconStream. This implies a representation of the icons is being kept somewhere. Why ? Who knows. How would caching them help ? https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...c-68b599b31bf5 In any case, I can't see how deleting those is going to help in the long run. You would think if the stuff "eventually" appears, any caches would get flushed. I would be more hopeful of an approach like that, if your notification icons were permanently busted. Paul Thanks. First, I see I was using the historical label 'Tray icons' (or 'systray icons') which from your referenced article I see are now called 'Notification icons'. Here's a screenshot showing the current state of the icons that have been suffering. Currently in their correct state, after re-starting Explorer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7kduazl9r...ns-1.jpg?raw=1 Supplementing Defender, I ran Malwarebytes but nothing relevant found. However ... there's all sorts of stuff as usual in Event Viewer. I use it very reluctantly because I've hardly ever been able to understand much less fix the issues reported. Today's visit prompted a couple of hours of research and nervous registry editing, which I suspect I'll regret after the next reboot. In the (unlikely) event that I may find time to pursue these further, I prepared myself a list of the "Errors" and "Warnings". Here's a full paste in case it triggers any clues. Mostly obscure or meaningless to me. ERRORS ======= Event ID 0: Office 2016 Licensing Service (159 since 24th May) -------------------------------------------------------------- "The description for Event ID 0 from source Office 2016 Licensing Service cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer. If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event. The following information was included with the event: Subscription licensing service failed: -1073422333" Event ID 3: FilterManager (508 since 14th June) ------------------------------------------------ "Filter Manager failed to attach to volume '\Device\HarddiskVolume19'. This volume will be unavailable for filtering until a reboot. The final status was 0xC03A001C." Event ID 3: Kernel-EventTracing (22 since 24th May) --------------------------------------------------- "Session "Circular Kernel Context Logger" stopped due to the following error: 0xC0000188" Event ID 28: Kernel-EventTracing (41 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------- "Error setting traits on Provider {8444a4fb-d8d3-4f38-84f8-89960a1ef12f}. Error: 0xC0000001" Event ID 69: AppModel-Runtime (99 since 24th May) ------------------------------------------------- "Failed with 0x490 modifying AppModel Runtime status for package Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay_1.32.21002.0_x64__8wekyb 3d8bbwe for user TERRY-2016\terry (current status = 0x0, desired status = 0x20)." Event ID 1000: Application Error (38 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------- Quicken, Mystic Thumbs, Explorer, SendToQuickLaunch, CircuitMaker, ShellExperienceHost, Converter, Arti, SecHealthUI, Movie Edit Pro, Bridge32_V103, svchost.exe_WpnUserService. Event ID 1002: Application Hang (22 since 29th May) --------------------------------------------------- (Regedit, PaintShopPro, Waterfox, SystemSettings.exe, Explorer, Xara Photo Graphic Designer, Excel, MacEdit, GPSU.) Event ID 1135: isaAgent (23 since 26th May) ------------------------------------------- "1.0.0.532: Unexpected error: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found." Event ID 7023: Service Control Manager (12 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------------- "The Update Orchestrator Service service terminated with the following error: This operation returned because the timeout period expired." Event ID 10016: DistributedCOM (559 since 24th May) --------------------------------------------------- "The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID {8BC3F05E-D86B-11D0-A075-00C04FB68820} and APPID {8BC3F05E-D86B-11D0-A075-00C04FB68820} to the user TERRY-2016\terry SID (S-1-5-21-1643601740-1098315019-3821599572-1004) from address LocalHost (Using LRPC) running in the application container Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_10.0.1713 4.1_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy SID (S-1-15-2-350187224-1905355452-1037786396-3028148496-2624191407-3283318427-1255436723). This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool." (Spent an hour or so trying to fix this using a YT tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjz8uLblc_8 Encountered some snags so yet to see if it helped.) WARNINGS ======== Event ID 4: Kernel-EventTracing (32 since 24th May) --------------------------------------------------- "The maximum file size for session "Circular Kernel Context Logger" has been reached. As a result, events might be lost (not logged) to file "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WDI\LogFiles\BootCKCL.etl ". The maximum files size is currently set to 104857600 bytes. Event ID 64: CertificateServicesClient-AutoEnrollment (910 since 24th May) ------------------------------------------------------------- "Certificate for local system with Thumbprint 3f 1d f1 5b 91 7b c7 36 d6 d6 bb 7e bf 51 37 05 a6 fe ff 36 is about to expire or already expired." Event ID 200: DeviceSetupManager (95 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "A connection to the Windows Update service could not be established." Event ID 201: DeviceSetupManager (74 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "A connection to the Windows Metadata and Internet Services (WMIS) could not be established." Event ID 201: DeviceSetupManager (74 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "The Network List Manager reports no connectivity to the internet." Event ID 202: DeviceSetupManager (169 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "The Network List Manager reports no connectivity to the internet." (Unclear how it differs from 201.) Event ID 360: User Device Registration (56 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------------- "Windows Hello for Business provisioning will not be launched. Device is AAD joined ( AADJ or DJ++ ): Not Tested User has logged on with AAD credentials: No Windows Hello for Business policy is enabled: Not Tested Windows Hello for Business post-logon provisioning is enabled: Not Tested Local computer meets Windows hello for business hardware requirements: Not Tested User is not connected to the machine via Remote Desktop: Yes User certificate for on premise auth policy is enabled: Not Tested Machine is governed by none policy. See https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=832647 for more details." (!! I'm a solo home user.) Event ID 1014: DNS Client Events (57 since 28th May) ---------------------------------------------------- "Name resolution for the name wpad timed out after none of the configured DNS servers responded." Event ID 2511: Server (43 since 24th May) ----------------------------------------- "The server service was unable to recreate the share Blue Ridge Banjo because the directory C:\Docs\My Music\Obray Ramsey\Blue Ridge Banjo no longer exists. Please run "net share Blue Ridge Banjo /delete" to delete the share, or recreate the directory C:\Docs\My Music\Obray Ramsey\Blue Ridge Banjo." (First suggestion didn't work, as I have no folder 'C:\Docs\My Music'. There IS one called 'D:\Music\Obray Ramsey\Blue Ridge Banjo'. I have also now created the folder in the second suggestion...!) Event ID 15300: Http Event (15 since 5th September) --------------------------------------------------- "SSL Certificate Settings created by an admin process for endpoint : 0.0.0.0:28380 ." Event ID 15301: Http Event (15 since 5th September) --------------------------------------------------- "SSL Certificate Settings created by an admin process for endpoint : 0.0.0.0:28380 ." (Unclear how it differs from 201.) |
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All tray icons greyed out
On 10/29/2018 1:08 PM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
[...] Thanks. First, I see I was using the historical label 'Tray icons' (or 'systray icons') which from your referenced article I see are now called 'Notification icons'. Here's a screenshot showing the current state of the icons that have been suffering. Currently in their correct state, after re-starting Explorer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7kduazl9r...ns-1.jpg?raw=1 I haven't seen one like that. Which Windows10 are you running? Supplementing Defender, I ran Malwarebytes but nothing relevant found. However ... there's all sorts of stuff as usual in Event Viewer. I use it very reluctantly because I've hardly ever been able to understand much less fix the issues reported. Today's visit prompted a couple of hours of research and nervous registry editing, which I suspect I'll regret after the next reboot. In the (unlikely) event that I may find time to pursue these further, I prepared myself a list of the "Errors" and "Warnings". Here's a full paste in case it triggers any clues. Mostly obscure or meaningless to me. ERRORS ======= [ snipped for brevity, but important to the conversation ] Looking through your list of errors indicates that several of your apps are having problems with your system resources. This can, and most likely will lead to the kinds of problems that you're experiencing w/r/t the launching of other apps from the taskbar. Finding the culprit may not be easy. -- best regards, Neil |
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All tray icons greyed out
Neil wrote:
On 10/29/2018 1:08 PM, Terry Pinnell wrote: [...] Thanks. First, I see I was using the historical label 'Tray icons' (or 'systray icons') which from your referenced article I see are now called 'Notification icons'. Here's a screenshot showing the current state of the icons that have been suffering. Currently in their correct state, after re-starting Explorer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7kduazl9r...ns-1.jpg?raw=1 I haven't seen one like that. Which Windows10 are you running? Win 10 Pro. I have the Classic Start menu installed, if that's relevant. Supplementing Defender, I ran Malwarebytes but nothing relevant found. However ... there's all sorts of stuff as usual in Event Viewer. I use it very reluctantly because I've hardly ever been able to understand much less fix the issues reported. Today's visit prompted a couple of hours of research and nervous registry editing, which I suspect I'll regret after the next reboot. In the (unlikely) event that I may find time to pursue these further, I prepared myself a list of the "Errors" and "Warnings". Here's a full paste in case it triggers any clues. Mostly obscure or meaningless to me. ERRORS ======= [ snipped for brevity, but important to the conversation ] Looking through your list of errors indicates that several of your apps are having problems with your system resources. This can, and most likely will lead to the kinds of problems that you're experiencing w/r/t the launching of other apps from the taskbar. Finding the culprit may not be easy. You could be right, although I have not installed any new apps in the last week or so, yet this odd behaviour started very recently. Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
I have the Classic Start menu installed Uninstall it for a few days and see if the problem goes away ... |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
I have the Classic Start menu installed, if that's relevant. searching for "classic shell" tray icons grey|missing seems to indicate you're not alone |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
Paul wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: This is the third time within a few days that this has happened. All my tray icons are inactive and have lost their colour. A restart fixes it, or closing Explorer from the TM and restarting it. But anyone know the likely cause and fix please? The Taskbar icons are all OK. Terry, East Grinstead, UK There's no mention here of what service provides the Notification Icons. And what service dependencies such a service might have. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ification-area You'll notice that the functional definition has a large number of possible states. But no state would be to "display a gray icon". Either an icon is presented (in full color), or an icon is not presented. There is no in-between state. When the icon turns gray, it means something unexpected happened. Check EventViewer. Maybe a log was generated. ******* I can find things like this, references to IconStream and PastIconStream. This implies a representation of the icons is being kept somewhere. Why ? Who knows. How would caching them help ? https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...c-68b599b31bf5 In any case, I can't see how deleting those is going to help in the long run. You would think if the stuff "eventually" appears, any caches would get flushed. I would be more hopeful of an approach like that, if your notification icons were permanently busted. Paul Thanks. First, I see I was using the historical label 'Tray icons' (or 'systray icons') which from your referenced article I see are now called 'Notification icons'. Here's a screenshot showing the current state of the icons that have been suffering. Currently in their correct state, after re-starting Explorer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7kduazl9r...ns-1.jpg?raw=1 Supplementing Defender, I ran Malwarebytes but nothing relevant found. However ... there's all sorts of stuff as usual in Event Viewer. I use it very reluctantly because I've hardly ever been able to understand much less fix the issues reported. Today's visit prompted a couple of hours of research and nervous registry editing, which I suspect I'll regret after the next reboot. In the (unlikely) event that I may find time to pursue these further, I prepared myself a list of the "Errors" and "Warnings". Here's a full paste in case it triggers any clues. Mostly obscure or meaningless to me. ERRORS ======= Event ID 0: Office 2016 Licensing Service (159 since 24th May) -------------------------------------------------------------- "The description for Event ID 0 from source Office 2016 Licensing Service cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer. If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event. The following information was included with the event: Subscription licensing service failed: -1073422333" Event ID 3: FilterManager (508 since 14th June) ------------------------------------------------ "Filter Manager failed to attach to volume '\Device\HarddiskVolume19'. This volume will be unavailable for filtering until a reboot. The final status was 0xC03A001C." Event ID 3: Kernel-EventTracing (22 since 24th May) --------------------------------------------------- "Session "Circular Kernel Context Logger" stopped due to the following error: 0xC0000188" Event ID 28: Kernel-EventTracing (41 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------- "Error setting traits on Provider {8444a4fb-d8d3-4f38-84f8-89960a1ef12f}. Error: 0xC0000001" Event ID 69: AppModel-Runtime (99 since 24th May) ------------------------------------------------- "Failed with 0x490 modifying AppModel Runtime status for package Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay_1.32.21002.0_x64__8wekyb 3d8bbwe for user TERRY-2016\terry (current status = 0x0, desired status = 0x20)." Event ID 1000: Application Error (38 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------- Quicken, Mystic Thumbs, Explorer, SendToQuickLaunch, CircuitMaker, ShellExperienceHost, Converter, Arti, SecHealthUI, Movie Edit Pro, Bridge32_V103, svchost.exe_WpnUserService. Event ID 1002: Application Hang (22 since 29th May) --------------------------------------------------- (Regedit, PaintShopPro, Waterfox, SystemSettings.exe, Explorer, Xara Photo Graphic Designer, Excel, MacEdit, GPSU.) Event ID 1135: isaAgent (23 since 26th May) ------------------------------------------- "1.0.0.532: Unexpected error: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found." Event ID 7023: Service Control Manager (12 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------------- "The Update Orchestrator Service service terminated with the following error: This operation returned because the timeout period expired." Event ID 10016: DistributedCOM (559 since 24th May) --------------------------------------------------- "The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID {8BC3F05E-D86B-11D0-A075-00C04FB68820} and APPID {8BC3F05E-D86B-11D0-A075-00C04FB68820} to the user TERRY-2016\terry SID (S-1-5-21-1643601740-1098315019-3821599572-1004) from address LocalHost (Using LRPC) running in the application container Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_10.0.1713 4.1_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy SID (S-1-15-2-350187224-1905355452-1037786396-3028148496-2624191407-3283318427-1255436723). This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool." (Spent an hour or so trying to fix this using a YT tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjz8uLblc_8 Encountered some snags so yet to see if it helped.) WARNINGS ======== Event ID 4: Kernel-EventTracing (32 since 24th May) --------------------------------------------------- "The maximum file size for session "Circular Kernel Context Logger" has been reached. As a result, events might be lost (not logged) to file "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WDI\LogFiles\BootCKCL.etl ". The maximum files size is currently set to 104857600 bytes. Event ID 64: CertificateServicesClient-AutoEnrollment (910 since 24th May) ------------------------------------------------------------- "Certificate for local system with Thumbprint 3f 1d f1 5b 91 7b c7 36 d6 d6 bb 7e bf 51 37 05 a6 fe ff 36 is about to expire or already expired." Event ID 200: DeviceSetupManager (95 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "A connection to the Windows Update service could not be established." Event ID 201: DeviceSetupManager (74 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "A connection to the Windows Metadata and Internet Services (WMIS) could not be established." Event ID 201: DeviceSetupManager (74 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "The Network List Manager reports no connectivity to the internet." Event ID 202: DeviceSetupManager (169 since 1st August) ------------------------------------------------------ "The Network List Manager reports no connectivity to the internet." (Unclear how it differs from 201.) Event ID 360: User Device Registration (56 since 24th May) ---------------------------------------------------------- "Windows Hello for Business provisioning will not be launched. Device is AAD joined ( AADJ or DJ++ ): Not Tested User has logged on with AAD credentials: No Windows Hello for Business policy is enabled: Not Tested Windows Hello for Business post-logon provisioning is enabled: Not Tested Local computer meets Windows hello for business hardware requirements: Not Tested User is not connected to the machine via Remote Desktop: Yes User certificate for on premise auth policy is enabled: Not Tested Machine is governed by none policy. See https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=832647 for more details." (!! I'm a solo home user.) Event ID 1014: DNS Client Events (57 since 28th May) ---------------------------------------------------- "Name resolution for the name wpad timed out after none of the configured DNS servers responded." Event ID 2511: Server (43 since 24th May) ----------------------------------------- "The server service was unable to recreate the share Blue Ridge Banjo because the directory C:\Docs\My Music\Obray Ramsey\Blue Ridge Banjo no longer exists. Please run "net share Blue Ridge Banjo /delete" to delete the share, or recreate the directory C:\Docs\My Music\Obray Ramsey\Blue Ridge Banjo." (First suggestion didn't work, as I have no folder 'C:\Docs\My Music'. There IS one called 'D:\Music\Obray Ramsey\Blue Ridge Banjo'. I have also now created the folder in the second suggestion...!) Event ID 15300: Http Event (15 since 5th September) --------------------------------------------------- "SSL Certificate Settings created by an admin process for endpoint : 0.0.0.0:28380 ." Event ID 15301: Http Event (15 since 5th September) --------------------------------------------------- "SSL Certificate Settings created by an admin process for endpoint : 0.0.0.0:28380 ." (Unclear how it differs from 201.) Out of your Events there, the one that caught my eye was the Windows Push Notification service. When that goes nuts, it can use all system memory. "WpnUserService occupies all available memory" https://social.technet.microsoft.com...10itprogeneral My thinking there is, perhaps if the WpnUserService or its similarly-name help go nuts, they may "squeeze out" cycles the other services in that SVCHOST need. It's possible a SVCHOST runs on a max of one core, so if WpnUserService is chowing down on the CPU core they use, there might not be enough cycles for something else. ******* Regarding your picture he https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7kduazl9r...ns-1.jpg?raw=1 I was able to make a similar view here, and those things that occupy the majority of that area, are the Notification Area icons. After adding the Quick Launch bar and making all the icons visible (no more "overflow area" marked by an up-arrow symbol), mine looks like this. https://i.postimg.cc/vmymHJXF/notifi...ll-exposed.gif Paul |
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Andy Burns wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote: I have the Classic Start menu installed, if that's relevant. searching for "classic shell" tray icons grey|missing seems to indicate you're not alone Thanks, that looks a candidate culprit, although on my first brief look I couldn't find a post with my symptoms. None of my icons are missing. All are inactive and colourless. Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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On 10/29/2018 4:47 PM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: I have the Classic Start menu installed, if that's relevant. searching for "classic shell" tray icons grey|missing seems to indicate you're not alone Thanks, that looks a candidate culprit, although on my first brief look I couldn't find a post with my symptoms. None of my icons are missing. All are inactive and colourless. Terry, East Grinstead, UK I second Andy's suggestion. Any shell on top of Win10 is a precarious idea, and could very well create the kinds of things you've experienced as well as some of those errors related to system resources. -- best regards, Neil |
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