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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC,
then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC, The license is not transferable. If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work "Ted Curtin" wrote in message ... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC,
then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC, The license is not transferable. If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work "Ted Curtin" wrote in message ... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
In message , DL
writes: If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC, then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC, The license is not transferable. If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work "Ted Curtin" wrote in message ... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. I presume it didn't actually get to the point where you were able to answer that question. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
In message , DL
writes: If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC, then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC, The license is not transferable. If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work "Ted Curtin" wrote in message ... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. I presume it didn't actually get to the point where you were able to answer that question. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
Thanks for the help, everyone - the Michaelstevenstech info looks like what
I need to switch over - my XP is retail version. Looks like I'm lucky that I haven't had problems doing this before! "glee" wrote in message ... "Ted Curtin" wrote in message ... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
Thanks for the help, everyone - the Michaelstevenstech info looks like what
I need to switch over - my XP is retail version. Looks like I'm lucky that I haven't had problems doing this before! "glee" wrote in message ... "Ted Curtin" wrote in message ... I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? Many thanks! Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
Ted Curtin wrote:
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. That's very unusual; the two motherboards must have been close to identical. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? No hardware or Windows problem. This is actually normal behavior. Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
Ted Curtin wrote:
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you like to start in'. When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and processor) and gotten itself going. That's very unusual; the two motherboards must have been close to identical. I also tried a HD from another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem? No hardware or Windows problem. This is actually normal behavior. Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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In message , Bruce Chambers
writes: [] style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. [] Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I just don't see why.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
In message , Bruce Chambers
writes: [] style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. [] Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I just don't see why.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
Don't know about more stable, but it does allow windows to more fully
utilize the hardware's capabilities. Even in the later 9x series, the Hal file could be different from one machine to another, and, unless it was the basic version, might not work on another hardware configuration. Stability might be improved when the win hardware drivers more closely match such things as processors and MBD chipsets. Emulation modes are seldom as good as native modes. Also, even with Win 7, it can be adviseable to load OEM MBD drivers, rather than the drivers delivered with Win 7. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Bruce Chambers writes: [] style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. [] Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I just don't see why.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde |
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Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine
Don't know about more stable, but it does allow windows to more fully
utilize the hardware's capabilities. Even in the later 9x series, the Hal file could be different from one machine to another, and, unless it was the basic version, might not work on another hardware configuration. Stability might be improved when the win hardware drivers more closely match such things as processors and MBD chipsets. Emulation modes are seldom as good as native modes. Also, even with Win 7, it can be adviseable to load OEM MBD drivers, rather than the drivers delivered with Win 7. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Bruce Chambers writes: [] style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. [] Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I just don't see why.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde |
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