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  #1  
Old February 7th 10, 04:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ted Curtin
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis
program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives
me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you
like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and
processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another system to
check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of
Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!


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Old February 7th 10, 10:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
DL[_3_]
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC,
then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC,
The license is not transferable.
If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will
allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware
WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work

"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory
diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash
screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly,
which mode would you like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB
and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another
system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install
of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!



  #3  
Old February 7th 10, 10:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
DL[_3_]
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Posts: 929
Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC,
then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC,
The license is not transferable.
If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will
allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware
WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work

"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory
diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash
screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly,
which mode would you like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB
and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another
system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install
of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!



  #4  
Old February 7th 10, 05:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

In message , DL
writes:
If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC,
then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC,
The license is not transferable.
If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will
allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware
WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work

"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory
diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash
screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly,
which mode would you like to start in'.


I presume it didn't actually get to the point where you were able to
answer that question.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB
and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another
system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install
of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!




--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde
  #5  
Old February 7th 10, 05:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Posts: 5,291
Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

In message , DL
writes:
If your winxp was preinstalled by the PC maker when you purchased the PC,
then you cannot move it to new hardware as its locked to the origonal PC,
The license is not transferable.
If its a retail version of winxp, then often a repair installation will
allow you to install the new drivers provided for your new hardware
WIthout the corect drivers installed it aint going to work

"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory
diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash
screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly,
which mode would you like to start in'.


I presume it didn't actually get to the point where you were able to
answer that question.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB
and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another
system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install
of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!




--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde
  #6  
Old February 7th 10, 07:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
glee
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel
MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST;
I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a
disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to
the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't
start properly, which mode would you like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware
(MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from
another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a
clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!



Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/


  #7  
Old February 7th 10, 07:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
glee
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel
MB and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST;
I can get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a
disk/memory diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to
the splash screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't
start properly, which mode would you like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware
(MB and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from
another system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a
clean install of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!



Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/


  #8  
Old February 7th 10, 11:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ted Curtin
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Posts: 15
Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

Thanks for the help, everyone - the Michaelstevenstech info looks like what
I need to switch over - my XP is retail version. Looks like I'm lucky that I
haven't had problems doing this before!


"glee" wrote in message
...
"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory
diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash
screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly,
which mode would you like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB
and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another
system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install
of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!



Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/




  #9  
Old February 7th 10, 11:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Ted Curtin
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Posts: 15
Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

Thanks for the help, everyone - the Michaelstevenstech info looks like what
I need to switch over - my XP is retail version. Looks like I'm lucky that I
haven't had problems doing this before!


"glee" wrote in message
...
"Ted Curtin" wrote in message
...
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory
diagnosis program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash
screen - it gives me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly,
which mode would you like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB
and processor) and gotten itself going. I also tried a HD from another
system to check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install
of Windows... or is this a hardware problem?

Many thanks!



Changing a Motherboard or Moving XP
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/




  #10  
Old February 8th 10, 04:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bruce Chambers
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

Ted Curtin wrote:
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis
program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives
me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you
like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and
processor) and gotten itself going.



That's very unusual; the two motherboards must have been close to
identical.


I also tried a HD from another system to
check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of
Windows... or is this a hardware problem?



No hardware or Windows problem. This is actually normal behavior.

Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and
therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical
(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one
on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to
perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.




--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
  #11  
Old February 8th 10, 04:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bruce Chambers
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Posts: 6,208
Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

Ted Curtin wrote:
I tried to install my current HD with XP into a new-to-me system (Intel MB
and 2.4G processor), but windows won't start. System seems to POST; I can
get into bios where everything seems OK, and can run a disk/memory diagnosis
program from floppy, but windows never gets to the splash screen - it gives
me the screen that says "Windows didn't start properly, which mode would you
like to start in'.

When I've done this before, Windows has recognized the new hardware (MB and
processor) and gotten itself going.



That's very unusual; the two motherboards must have been close to
identical.


I also tried a HD from another system to
check, with the same results. Will I have to do a clean install of
Windows... or is this a hardware problem?



No hardware or Windows problem. This is actually normal behavior.

Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and
therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical
(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one
on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to
perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.




--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
  #12  
Old February 8th 10, 08:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

In message , Bruce Chambers
writes:
[]
style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K
before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to
accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On
installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This
is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much
more stable than the Win9x group.

[]
Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I
just don't see why.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde
  #13  
Old February 8th 10, 08:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Posts: 5,291
Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

In message , Bruce Chambers
writes:
[]
style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K
before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to
accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On
installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This
is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much
more stable than the Win9x group.

[]
Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I
just don't see why.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde
  #14  
Old February 22nd 10, 09:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Chuck
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Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

Don't know about more stable, but it does allow windows to more fully
utilize the hardware's capabilities.
Even in the later 9x series, the Hal file could be different from one
machine to another, and, unless it was the basic version, might not work on
another hardware configuration.
Stability might be improved when the win hardware drivers more closely match
such things as processors and MBD chipsets.
Emulation modes are seldom as good as native modes. Also, even with Win 7,
it can be adviseable to load OEM MBD drivers, rather than the drivers
delivered with Win 7.


"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Bruce Chambers
writes:
[]
style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before
it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors"
itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that
the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x
group.

[]
Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I
just don't see why.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar
Wilde



  #15  
Old February 22nd 10, 09:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Chuck
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Posts: 637
Default Troiuble migrating hard drive w/XP to a new machine

Don't know about more stable, but it does allow windows to more fully
utilize the hardware's capabilities.
Even in the later 9x series, the Hal file could be different from one
machine to another, and, unless it was the basic version, might not work on
another hardware configuration.
Stability might be improved when the win hardware drivers more closely match
such things as processors and MBD chipsets.
Emulation modes are seldom as good as native modes. Also, even with Win 7,
it can be adviseable to load OEM MBD drivers, rather than the drivers
delivered with Win 7.


"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Bruce Chambers
writes:
[]
style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before
it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors"
itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that
the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x
group.

[]
Why exactly does that make it more stable? (I'm not saying it doesn't, I
just don't see why.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. - Oscar
Wilde



 




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