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Old July 11th 17, 03:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

Can you get me started on how to connect Android 4.3 to Bluetooth on
Windows 10 because I don't have bluetooth yet.

I looked up how to tell if my Windows 10 desktop has bluetooth and it
doesn't seem to have a bluetooth card based on doing these device tests.
http://blog.drivethelife.com/bluetoo...oth-built.html
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-windows-10

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN
(2) To play songs from Android onto the more powerful computer speakers

Since I don't have bluetooth on the desktop, what hardware is best to add?
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Old July 11th 17, 03:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Dan Jenkins
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN


apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

use wifi for file transfer, not bluetooth.

(2) To play songs from Android onto the more powerful computer speakers


since you claim to have a desktop computer, just connect the speakers
directly.

Since I don't have bluetooth on the desktop, what hardware is best to add?


bluetooth dongle if you want bluetooth, but nothing you've listed needs
it.
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Old July 11th 17, 06:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:59:43 -0400, nospam wrote:

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN


apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


Thank you for trying to help but please don't try to help if you're going
to completely ignore the original post by suggesting everything I already
know and which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original question.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.
USB cable is inconvenient when going from floor to floor.
Same with speaker cables.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

This question is just asking advice about which powerful Bluetooth hardware
(make and model) people actually use and like best to connect an Android
device to a Windows PC.
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Old July 11th 17, 07:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 05:39:51 +0000 (UTC), Dan Jenkins
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:59:43 -0400, nospam wrote:

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN


apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


Thank you for trying to help but please don't try to help if you're going
to completely ignore the original post by suggesting everything I already
know and which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original question.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.


Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/

quote
Infrastructure and Ad-Hoc Modes Explained

Most Wi-Fi networks function in infrastructure mode. Devices on the
network all communicate through a single access point, which is
generally the wireless router. For example, let’s say you have two
laptops sitting next to each other, each connected to the same wireless
network. Even when sitting right next to each other, they’re not
communicating directly. Instead, they’re communicating indirectly
through the wireless access point. They send packets to the access point
— probably a wireless router — and it sends the packets back to the
other laptop. Infrastructure mode requires a central access point that
all devices connect to.

Ad-hoc mode is also known as “peer-to-peer” mode. Ad-hoc networks don’t
require a centralized access point. Instead, devices on the wireless
network connect directly to each other. If you set up the two laptops in
ad-hoc wireless mode, they’d connect directly to each other without the
need for a centralized access point.

Ad-hoc mode can be easier to set up if you just want to connect two
devices to each other without requiring a centralized access point. For
example, let’s say you have two laptops and you’re sitting in a hotel
room without Wi-Fi. You can connect them directly with ad-hoc mode to
form a temporary Wi-Fi network without needing a router.
unquote


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Old July 11th 17, 07:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

Dne 11/07/2017 v 04:59 nospam napsal(a):
In article , Dan Jenkins
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN


apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


He was not asking for that..
He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.

But for the significant file transfer,
I would use either an indirect way of the cloud storage,
either USB cable, if there are high privacy concerns.



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Old July 11th 17, 07:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

Dne 11/07/2017 v 07:39 Dan Jenkins napsal(a):

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN. USB cable is
inconvenient when going from floor to floor.


It was not obvious from the original post the PC is not on LAN.

I got in my other post an impression
you just do not want/are not allowed to connect your Android to LAN.

A good scenario description helps to prevent irrelevant replies.

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Old July 11th 17, 07:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Dan Jenkins
wrote:

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN


apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


Thank you for trying to help but please don't try to help if you're going
to completely ignore the original post by suggesting everything I already
know and which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original question.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.


no it isn't.

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.


yes it is, and since it's in your house, why wouldn't it be on a lan?

USB cable is inconvenient when going from floor to floor.


that's what wifi is for.

Same with speaker cables.


wifi can replace that too.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.


no it isn't.
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Old July 11th 17, 07:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN


apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


He was not asking for that..


he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.

He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.


i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.
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Old July 11th 17, 07:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Dne 11/07/2017 v 08:16 Poutnik napsal(a):
Dne 11/07/2017 v 07:39 Dan Jenkins napsal(a):

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN. USB cable is
inconvenient when going from floor to floor.


As said in other post, if PC has wifi adapter,
ad-hoc Wifi can be a way to go,
similarly as ad-hoc LAN between 2 off-line PCs is often used.



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Old July 11th 17, 07:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Dne 11/07/2017 v 07:39 Dan Jenkins napsal(a):

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.


Not necessarily.

You do not want BT.
You want to connect your Android to PC.

BT may, or may not be an optimal way to achieve that.

Providing incomplete scenario may receive suboptimal advices.

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Old July 11th 17, 07:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Dne 11/07/2017 v 08:23 nospam napsal(a):
In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


He was not asking for that..


he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.
It was not clear from the original post why he cannot /does not want to
connect other way.

He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.


i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.

He did. One of obvious ways is accessing LAN via Wifi router,
as it was not in the first post PC is not on LAN.

Helping others is rarely useful
while being confrontative toward other opinions.
Even good advices can be then rejected
because of the way they are presented.

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Old July 11th 17, 07:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

He was not asking for that..


he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.


there's no evidence of that.

It was not clear from the original post why he cannot /does not want to
connect other way.


it is to those who have seen his posts under other nyms.

He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.


i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.


He did. One of obvious ways is accessing LAN via Wifi router,
as it was not in the first post PC is not on LAN.


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.

https://developer.android.com/preview/features/wifi-aware.html
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/wifip2p.html
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Old July 11th 17, 08:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.
USB cable is inconvenient when going from floor to floor.
Same with speaker cables.

Actually, there is a version of WiFi called WIFI Direct, which will allow
to WIFI devices that support it to talk to each other without a router in
between. You would have to add a WIFI dongle that supports Direct to a USB
port on your desktop.

Alternatively, get a regular WIFI dongle for your desktop, and a regular
router that supports WIFI. You don't have to have a LAN in this case. WIFI
dongle to router WIFI to Android WIFi.

Or, get a WIFI enabled router, and plug it into your desktop with a short
LAN cable, then Android to the router.

Granted, this would not support your expressed desire to Bluetooth to the
desktop speakers, but you could stream via WIFI and get the same result. Or
do what I did and get an Oontz Plus portable speaker to use with your
Android. Works great and sounds wonderful.
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Old July 11th 17, 08:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

Dne 11/07/2017 v 08:53 nospam napsal(a):
In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

He was not asking for that..

he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.


there's no evidence of that.


Not for blinds, or if one is closing eyes.


He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.

i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.


He did. One of obvious ways is accessing LAN via Wifi router,
as it was not in the first post PC is not on LAN.


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.


It is well known.

As you have cut away the confrontation note,
it seems you have a real problem in that.

And as far as I can remember you, you really have.


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Old July 11th 17, 08:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Poutnik
wrote:


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.


It is well known.


it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.
 




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