MS Wish list.

I have seen a lot of talk recently about MS concentrating on Cloud based
computing.

I wish the OS was designed so that you could install the parts that you
want. The base OS would be designed as now but the modules would not
be incorporated into the basic OS operation.

When you upgraded you computer the base OS would be updated, and then
you would be presented a list of the modules that you want. In this way
you could select all, or the modules you want.

Later if you wanted a module that was not installed, you could then
download and install it from the cloud.

I have a laptop with an i7 CPU, a lot of ram, and disk space. On this
computer I would just select all and let it go.

However on my tablet with 1GB of ram, 32GB of storage space, I could
select the modules I want. I will never use some of the new items in
Windows 1803 on the tablet . Items such as 3D paint, Virtual reality,
some of the video functions, and several others. I see no reason that
I have to give up storage space for these item that I feel are worthless
on my tablet.


--
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You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

On 8 May 2018 18:22:19 GMT, ray carter wrote:

You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

"Work" is an ironic word when referring to Linux.

If you can get it running right out of the box, all the power to you.
If all of the programs you would ever need are already within that
image, then you will always be happy with Linux especially if it
detected all of your hardware. However, you might eventually need a
certain piece of software for a specific task. That's when the party
begins and accomplishing what would otherwise be considered simple
either becomes cumbersome or impossible.

I like Linux myself but I'm very honest about its drawbacks for the
common user.

Keith Nuttle wrote:
I have seen a lot of talk recently about MS concentrating on Cloud based
computing.

I wish the OS was designed so that you could install the parts that you
want. The base OS would be designed as now but the modules would not
be incorporated into the basic OS operation.

When you upgraded you computer the base OS would be updated, and then
you would be presented a list of the modules that you want. In this way
you could select all, or the modules you want.

Later if you wanted a module that was not installed, you could then
download and install it from the cloud.

I have a laptop with an i7 CPU, a lot of ram, and disk space. On this
computer I would just select all and let it go.

However on my tablet with 1GB of ram, 32GB of storage space, I could
select the modules I want. I will never use some of the new items in
Windows 1803 on the tablet . Items such as 3D paint, Virtual reality,
some of the video functions, and several others. I see no reason that
I have to give up storage space for these item that I feel are worthless
on my tablet.

Did you know that WinXP was modular ?

Someone actually made a product to control the
installation of various parts of it, something
like "Windows Lite". I've tried a couple of times
to do Google searches to find a link, but haven't
succeeded. But at the time, it was a novel concept
(the usage by a third party, of the modularity of
the installation process).

It would not surprise me to find Windows 10 is modular
as well. What's missing is a GUI to control it.

And based on the lethargic progress converting legacy
control panels to the Settings wheel, I would not hold
my breath. They're not going to let you remove the
telemetry subsystem, on Home or Pro.

They use this modularity, when making a special version
of Windows 10 for the US Military. All the telemetry
has to be removed. And so on. They need this flexibility
as part of their business plan, even if you're not
aware of it via the copy of software you got.

*******

You can see the modularity in "Windows Features". For
example, Windows 10 has a separate feature for SMBV1, so
that your copy of Windows 10 can do file sharing
with a WinXP host. That's an example of just one
thing hidden in there. They could make the entire
OS like that, but... they're not going to.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/iis...ic/image14.jpg

It wouldn't surprise me to find that they have a
version of OS, where all aspects of USB are removed,
as a means in high security installations, of
preventing people from using USB sticks to spirit
content out of the company. That's easier than pouring
epoxy glue in all the USB ports.

Paul

Keith Nuttle wrote:

I wish the OS was designed so that you could install the parts that you
want. The base OS would be designed as now but the modules would not
be incorporated into the basic OS operation.

And how many of the thousands of combinations of what is/isn't installed
should they test? I remember when you could have a working NT4 instance
with only one or two services and a handful of processes, try disabling
services today and you soon run into "oh ABC doesn't work unless DEF and
XYZ are running" ...

On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:38:12 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:

On 8 May 2018 18:22:19 GMT, ray carter wrote:

You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

"Work" is an ironic word when referring to Linux.

If you can get it running right out of the box, all the power to you.
If all of the programs you would ever need are already within that
image, then you will always be happy with Linux especially if it
detected all of your hardware. However, you might eventually need a
certain piece of software for a specific task. That's when the party
begins and accomplishing what would otherwise be considered simple
either becomes cumbersome or impossible.

I like Linux myself but I'm very honest about its drawbacks for the
common user.

Strange - we've been using Linux exclusively for 20 years with zero
issues - wife and me and assorted visitors, many of which didn't even
realize it wasn't MS. On the very rare occassion I need something that
isn't available for Linux (e.g. Lego Digital Designer and some shooting
programs) WINE suffices to run it.

On 8 May 2018 21:43:08 GMT, ray carter wrote:

On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:38:12 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:

On 8 May 2018 18:22:19 GMT, ray carter wrote:

You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

"Work" is an ironic word when referring to Linux.

If you can get it running right out of the box, all the power to you.
If all of the programs you would ever need are already within that
image, then you will always be happy with Linux especially if it
detected all of your hardware. However, you might eventually need a
certain piece of software for a specific task. That's when the party
begins and accomplishing what would otherwise be considered simple
either becomes cumbersome or impossible.

I like Linux myself but I'm very honest about its drawbacks for the
common user.

Strange - we've been using Linux exclusively for 20 years with zero
issues - wife and me and assorted visitors, many of which didn't even
realize it wasn't MS. On the very rare occassion I need something that
isn't available for Linux (e.g. Lego Digital Designer and some shooting
programs) WINE suffices to run it.

Find me a program that will allow me to mirror my desktop to an
AppleTV and I'll switch.

On 5/8/2018 6:43 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On 8 May 2018 21:43:08 GMT, ray carter wrote:

On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:38:12 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:

On 8 May 2018 18:22:19 GMT, ray carter wrote:

You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

"Work" is an ironic word when referring to Linux.

If you can get it running right out of the box, all the power to you.
If all of the programs you would ever need are already within that
image, then you will always be happy with Linux especially if it
detected all of your hardware. However, you might eventually need a
certain piece of software for a specific task. That's when the party
begins and accomplishing what would otherwise be considered simple
either becomes cumbersome or impossible.

I like Linux myself but I'm very honest about its drawbacks for the
common user.

Strange - we've been using Linux exclusively for 20 years with zero
issues - wife and me and assorted visitors, many of which didn't even
realize it wasn't MS. On the very rare occassion I need something that
isn't available for Linux (e.g. Lego Digital Designer and some shooting
programs) WINE suffices to run it.

Find me a program that will allow me to mirror my desktop to an
AppleTV and I'll switch.


how about having the whole system on the cloud and pulling it up anywhere?

--
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Not a professional opinion unless specified.

On 8 May 2018 21:43:08 GMT, ray carter wrote in


On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:38:12 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:

On 8 May 2018 18:22:19 GMT, ray carter wrote:

You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

"Work" is an ironic word when referring to Linux.

If you can get it running right out of the box, all the power to you.
If all of the programs you would ever need are already within that
image, then you will always be happy with Linux especially if it
detected all of your hardware. However, you might eventually need a
certain piece of software for a specific task. That's when the party
begins and accomplishing what would otherwise be considered simple
either becomes cumbersome or impossible.

I like Linux myself but I'm very honest about its drawbacks for the
common user.

Strange - we've been using Linux exclusively for 20 years with zero
issues - wife and me and assorted visitors, many of which didn't even
realize it wasn't MS. On the very rare occassion I need something that
isn't available for Linux (e.g. Lego Digital Designer and some shooting
programs) WINE suffices to run it.

What version of Linux are you using?
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

On Tue, 8 May 2018 19:26:09 -0400, dale wrote:

On 5/8/2018 6:43 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On 8 May 2018 21:43:08 GMT, ray carter wrote:

On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:38:12 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:

On 8 May 2018 18:22:19 GMT, ray carter wrote:

You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

"Work" is an ironic word when referring to Linux.

If you can get it running right out of the box, all the power to you.
If all of the programs you would ever need are already within that
image, then you will always be happy with Linux especially if it
detected all of your hardware. However, you might eventually need a
certain piece of software for a specific task. That's when the party
begins and accomplishing what would otherwise be considered simple
either becomes cumbersome or impossible.

I like Linux myself but I'm very honest about its drawbacks for the
common user.

Strange - we've been using Linux exclusively for 20 years with zero
issues - wife and me and assorted visitors, many of which didn't even
realize it wasn't MS. On the very rare occassion I need something that
isn't available for Linux (e.g. Lego Digital Designer and some shooting
programs) WINE suffices to run it.

Find me a program that will allow me to mirror my desktop to an
AppleTV and I'll switch.


how about having the whole system on the cloud and pulling it up anywhere?

The school makes up its own rules and probably doesn't care about my
wanting to change everything around, especially when the rest of the
staff already got used to operating in a specific manner.

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

Find me a program that will allow me to mirror my desktop to an
AppleTV and I'll switch.

https://github.com/jamesdlow/open-airplay

Requires a user to know an AppleTV's ip address before use.

that's what avahi/zeroconf/bonjour is for.

The
clients below are also very cumbersome and don't allow you to mirror a
desktop as much as play videos from within your desktop (not what I
need).

welcome to linux.

On Tue, 08 May 2018 18:56:24 -0500, CRNG wrote:

On 8 May 2018 21:43:08 GMT, ray carter wrote in


On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:38:12 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:

On 8 May 2018 18:22:19 GMT, ray carter wrote:

You have done a pretty good job of describing how most Linux
distributions work.

"Work" is an ironic word when referring to Linux.

If you can get it running right out of the box, all the power to you.
If all of the programs you would ever need are already within that
image, then you will always be happy with Linux especially if it
detected all of your hardware. However, you might eventually need a
certain piece of software for a specific task. That's when the party
begins and accomplishing what would otherwise be considered simple
either becomes cumbersome or impossible.

I like Linux myself but I'm very honest about its drawbacks for the
common user.

Strange - we've been using Linux exclusively for 20 years with zero
issues - wife and me and assorted visitors, many of which didn't even
realize it wasn't MS. On the very rare occassion I need something that
isn't available for Linux (e.g. Lego Digital Designer and some shooting
programs) WINE suffices to run it.

What version of Linux are you using?

Debian Stable (currently 'stretch' or 9.x). Absolutely stable - I've
never had a crash that was not a result of a hardware problem.

On Tue, 08 May 2018 20:30:11 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

Find me a program that will allow me to mirror my desktop to an
AppleTV and I'll switch.

https://github.com/jamesdlow/open-airplay

Requires a user to know an AppleTV's ip address before use.

that's what avahi/zeroconf/bonjour is for.

The
clients below are also very cumbersome and don't allow you to mirror a
desktop as much as play videos from within your desktop (not what I
need).

welcome to linux.

Exactly. For all of the freedom it provides, it also offers an
unlimited amount of compromises that you need to accept.

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


The
clients below are also very cumbersome and don't allow you to mirror a
desktop as much as play videos from within your desktop (not what I
need).

welcome to linux.

Exactly. For all of the freedom it provides, it also offers an
unlimited amount of compromises that you need to accept.

and turns the simplest tasks into something far more complicated than
it needs to be.

On 05/09/2018 06:56 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:

[snip]

welcome to linux.

Exactly. For all of the freedom it provides, it also offers an
unlimited amount of compromises that you need to accept.

and not always the same ones you get with Windows.