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Old May 13th 18, 07:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bentot
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Default Re-crearting a recovery drive

I have been running windows 10 on two computers for a long while. I
created recovery drives when I upgrade from windows 7. Lots of
windows updates have occurred since then Hence my question.... when
should I re-create the recovery drives to accommodate system changes?
After each fall and spring update? After each Tuesday up date? Or,
not at all?

This question was asked come time back, but the responses didn't
really address the question.

Bentot
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Old May 13th 18, 07:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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Default Re-crearting a recovery drive

On 5/13/2018 2:38 PM, Bentot wrote:
I have been running windows 10 on two computers for a long while. I
created recovery drives when I upgrade from windows 7. Lots of
windows updates have occurred since then Hence my question.... when
should I re-create the recovery drives to accommodate system changes?
After each fall and spring update? After each Tuesday up date? Or,
not at all?

This question was asked come time back, but the responses didn't
really address the question.

Bentot

To start off I am not a expert.

I beleive that a recovery disk from the OS, only produces a disk of the
original installation with drivers.

To have a copy of the current OS with Drivers you would need to make an
image of the disk.

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Old May 13th 18, 08:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bentot
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Default Re-crearting a recovery drive

On Sun, 13 May 2018 14:53:35 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2018 2:38 PM, Bentot wrote:
I have been running windows 10 on two computers for a long while. I
created recovery drives when I upgrade from windows 7. Lots of
windows updates have occurred since then Hence my question.... when
should I re-create the recovery drives to accommodate system changes?
After each fall and spring update? After each Tuesday up date? Or,
not at all?

This question was asked come time back, but the responses didn't
really address the question.

Bentot

To start off I am not a expert.

I beleive that a recovery disk from the OS, only produces a disk of the
original installation with drivers.

To have a copy of the current OS with Drivers you would need to make an
image of the disk.


Thank you, Keith

I should have mentioned that I have Acronis on both computers creating
an images of the C: drives once a week. I am also having window
create images periodically. I like to have redundant backup schemes
incase one fails. It has happened..

Bentot
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Old May 14th 18, 12:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Re-crearting a recovery drive

Bentot wrote:
I have been running windows 10 on two computers for a long while. I
created recovery drives when I upgrade from windows 7. Lots of
windows updates have occurred since then Hence my question.... when
should I re-create the recovery drives to accommodate system changes?
After each fall and spring update? After each Tuesday up date? Or,
not at all?

This question was asked come time back, but the responses didn't
really address the question.

Bentot


After you install the Recovery Stick, these files
should be all that's needed to bring the OS up-to-date.

MSRT monthly scan
Adobe Flash Update
Servicing Stack Update
Cumulative Security Update (like say 2018-05, which is current)
(MsMpEng will update itself, and does so regularly anyway)

If you added any Program Files to your OS since the
last time the stick was made, then those would have to
be added. Then it's a question of wear and tear on the
USB stick.

I wish they would make an option to just create the "file"
that you write to the USB stick, without actually putting
it on the USB stick. Then you could make them whenever you
wanted, without any wear on the USB stick, then move the
info to the stick when it is absolutely needed.

For that procedure to work, the "reagentc" stuff has
to be set up correctly. And that's the only reason
I've ever created a USB recovery stick, was to check
that stuff was working.

Otherwise, I would just use a backup of C: to put the
OS back. It's less work for me. Keep the current partition
separate somewhere, and add back anything which is missing
or out of date, as needed. (Profiles for various tools,
the latest files in my Download folder, and so on.)

Paul
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Old May 14th 18, 03:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bentot
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Default Re-crearting a recovery drive


On Sun, 13 May 2018 19:57:25 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Bentot wrote:
I have been running windows 10 on two computers for a long while. I
created recovery drives when I upgrade from windows 7. Lots of
windows updates have occurred since then Hence my question.... when
should I re-create the recovery drives to accommodate system changes?
After each fall and spring update? After each Tuesday up date? Or,
not at all?

This question was asked come time back, but the responses didn't
really address the question.

Bentot


After you install the Recovery Stick, these files
should be all that's needed to bring the OS up-to-date.

MSRT monthly scan
Adobe Flash Update
Servicing Stack Update
Cumulative Security Update (like say 2018-05, which is current)
(MsMpEng will update itself, and does so regularly anyway)

If you added any Program Files to your OS since the
last time the stick was made, then those would have to
be added. Then it's a question of wear and tear on the
USB stick.

I wish they would make an option to just create the "file"
that you write to the USB stick, without actually putting
it on the USB stick. Then you could make them whenever you
wanted, without any wear on the USB stick, then move the
info to the stick when it is absolutely needed.

For that procedure to work, the "reagentc" stuff has
to be set up correctly. And that's the only reason
I've ever created a USB recovery stick, was to check
that stuff was working.

Otherwise, I would just use a backup of C: to put the
OS back. It's less work for me. Keep the current partition
separate somewhere, and add back anything which is missing
or out of date, as needed. (Profiles for various tools,
the latest files in my Download folder, and so on.)

Paul


Thank you, Paul

I googled "reagentc" and discovered I was over my head! Have to
learn more a bout that. I will go with your "otherwise" suggestion.

Bentot
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Old May 14th 18, 05:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Re-crearting a recovery drive

Bentot wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2018 19:57:25 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Bentot wrote:
I have been running windows 10 on two computers for a long while. I
created recovery drives when I upgrade from windows 7. Lots of
windows updates have occurred since then Hence my question.... when
should I re-create the recovery drives to accommodate system changes?
After each fall and spring update? After each Tuesday up date? Or,
not at all?

This question was asked come time back, but the responses didn't
really address the question.

Bentot

After you install the Recovery Stick, these files
should be all that's needed to bring the OS up-to-date.

MSRT monthly scan
Adobe Flash Update
Servicing Stack Update
Cumulative Security Update (like say 2018-05, which is current)
(MsMpEng will update itself, and does so regularly anyway)

If you added any Program Files to your OS since the
last time the stick was made, then those would have to
be added. Then it's a question of wear and tear on the
USB stick.

I wish they would make an option to just create the "file"
that you write to the USB stick, without actually putting
it on the USB stick. Then you could make them whenever you
wanted, without any wear on the USB stick, then move the
info to the stick when it is absolutely needed.

For that procedure to work, the "reagentc" stuff has
to be set up correctly. And that's the only reason
I've ever created a USB recovery stick, was to check
that stuff was working.

Otherwise, I would just use a backup of C: to put the
OS back. It's less work for me. Keep the current partition
separate somewhere, and add back anything which is missing
or out of date, as needed. (Profiles for various tools,
the latest files in my Download folder, and so on.)

Paul


Thank you, Paul

I googled "reagentc" and discovered I was over my head! Have to
learn more a bout that. I will go with your "otherwise" suggestion.

Bentot


It's not that hard.

The idea is, like me, you can try to make the recovery USB stick
if you want.

If it works (as it should with 1803 installed), then you don't
need to know anything about "reagentc" command.

In my case, the WIM file the USB stick needs was missing,
because "reagentc" hadn't been set up properly. Using
"reagentc /info" you might get a preliminary review
of the current configuration. It's not particularly
hard to fix.

I think the experience will seem a lot more comfortable if
the making of the first USB stick works without a fuss. In
my case, it didn't, and another forum poster warned that
it hadn't worked for him. But I see lots of junk available
after the 1803 update, so you might get lucky :-)

Paul
 




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