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  #16  
Old March 8th 09, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Danny Krychek
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

Ant wrote:

On 3/8/2009 10:20 AM PT, Jim typed:

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance.


Defraggler is a good one .


Do you know if it can handle limited free disk space?


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  #17  
Old March 9th 09, 12:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

On 3/8/2009 2:57 PM PT, Danny Krychek typed:

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance.
Defraggler is a good one .

Do you know if it can handle limited free disk space?


Got GOOGLE?


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  #18  
Old March 9th 09, 03:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Danny Krychek
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

Ant wrote:

On 3/8/2009 2:57 PM PT, Danny Krychek typed:

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance.
Defraggler is a good one .
Do you know if it can handle limited free disk space?


Got GOOGLE?


Yes, but I didn't see the answer. Even its own Web site doesn't say it.


If the author's site doesn't brag about something - and the ability to
defrag with limited free space would give huge bragging rights - then
it can't.
  #19  
Old March 9th 09, 07:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Phillip Pi
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

Gerry,

Here you go:

Volume SYSTEM (C
Volume size = 12.00 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 9.63 GB
Free space = 2.37 GB
Percent free space = 19 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 7 %
File fragmentation = 15 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 77,007
Average file size = 180 KB
Total fragmented files = 1,206
Total excess fragments = 307,892
Average fragments per file = 4.99

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 200 MB
Total fragments = 9

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 4,443
Fragmented folders = 13
Excess folder fragments = 33

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 86 MB
MFT record count = 84,627
Percent MFT in use = 96 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
301,225 265 MB \transaction.log
376 10 MB
\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\DataColl\CollectedData_4 1114.xml
296 2 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\cceraser.dll
261 408 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\file1.log
156 913 KB \WINDOWS\KB942763.log
144 1 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\navex32a.dll
130 100 KB \Program Files\Altiris\Altiris
Agent\Logs\Agent8.log
125 100 KB \Program Files\Altiris\Altiris
Agent\Logs\Agent9.log
123 4 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
72 635 KB \WINDOWS\comsetup.log
67 491 KB \WINDOWS\KB955839.log
52 2 MB \winstuff\DebuggingTools\w2kfre\kdex2x86.dll
49 363 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\eeCtrl.sys
49 991 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan1.dat
44 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\win32k.sys
42 324 KB \WINDOWS\SchCache\Corp.Com.sch
41 3 MB \Program Files\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\v3.5\System.Data.En tity.dll
41 142 KB \WINDOWS\updspapi.log
40 3 MB \WINDOWS\$hf_mig$\KB953838\SP3QFE\mshtml.dll
39 287 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini
38 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\ntkrnlmp.exe
37 388 KB \WINDOWS\ntdtcsetup.log
36 2 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\3e01c8ea.msi
35 253 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\ecmsvr32.dll
32 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Logs\FrameWork.log
31 936 KB
\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.log
30 45 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.DATA
29 5 MB \Program Files\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\v3.0\PresentationFr amework.dll
27 2 MB \Program Files\Common
Files\VMware\VMware Virtual Machine Importer\v2vapp.exe
27 580 KB
\WINDOWS\Installer\{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}\accicons.exe


Volume DATA (D
Volume size = 52.51 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 44.90 GB
Free space = 7.61 GB
Percent free space = 14 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 17,429
Average file size = 3 MB
Total fragmented files = 255
Total excess fragments = 28,534
Average fragments per file = 2.63

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,312
Fragmented folders = 9
Excess folder fragments = 28

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 44 MB
MFT record count = 21,101
Percent MFT in use = 47 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
20,771 11.95 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home
SP2 (Simplified Chinese) & Linux\Windows XP Home Edition.vmdk
1,763 3.63 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows
XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000003.vmdk
1,168 9.11 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Vista
Home Basic N (experimental)\Windows Vista (experimental).vmdk
900 7 MB \dl\cel_030809.mp3
716 4 MB \Documents and Settings\phil\ntuser.dat.LOG
642 7.25 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows
XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
588 1.71 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
559 3.30 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional-000002.vmdk
391 3 MB \work\tools\cdbxp_setup_4.2.4.1255.exe
260 314 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows
XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000004.vmdk
64 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\158839A4.TMP
49 153 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\adityadev007.xml
41 17 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows
XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmss
31 220 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Settings.LiveUpdate
29 38 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\air.xml
28 2 MB \winstuff\mcd\BMP.BMP
26 268 KB
\winstuff\Trillian3\users\default\cache\cache.ini
20 48 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\aditya.log
18 153 KB \Documents and Settings\phil\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\43p1f9aas.slt\Cache\ _CACHE_001_
17 3 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Log.LiveUpdate
14 19 KB \winstuff\RealAlternativeLite\Media
Player Classic\mplayerc.ini
13 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\480F4270.TMP
12 618 KB
\p4_perforce\depot\Services\Docs\QA\Patch\Patch.wb k
11 67 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows
XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-2.log
11 60 bytes \lotus\notes\Data\Modems
10 2 MB \Documents and Settings\phil\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\dp1f91yq.slt\history .dat
10 617 KB
\p4_perforce\depot\Services\Docs\QA\Patch\Patch.do c
9 51 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows
XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-1.log
8 12 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\air.log
8 37 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows
XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-0.log

--

I discovered defrag.exe command line earlier:


D:\defrag -a -v d:
Windows Disk Defragmenter
Copyright (c) 2001 Microsoft Corp. and Executive Software International,
Inc.

Analysis Report

Volume size = 52.51 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 44.90 GB
Free space = 7.61 GB
Percent free space = 14 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 17,417
Average file size = 3 MB
Total fragmented files = 244
Total excess fragments = 28,490
Average fragments per file = 2.63

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,309
Fragmented folders = 8
Excess folder fragments = 27

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 44 MB
MFT record count = 21,086
Percent MFT in use = 46
Total MFT fragments = 2

You should defragment this volume.


Volume BackupsAndArchives (E
Volume size = 9.91 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 2.31 GB
Free space = 7.60 GB
Percent free space = 76 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 21 %
File fragmentation = 43 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 1,551
Average file size = 2 MB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 2
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.00 GB
Total fragments = 3

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 277
Fragmented folders = 12
Excess folder fragments = 48

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 4 MB
MFT record count = 1,843
Percent MFT in use = 43 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
27 112 KB
\stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark\ snmp\mibs
6 32 KB
\stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark\ radius
6 28 KB
\stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark
4 28 KB \stuff\work\tools
3 20 KB \music\midi
2 8 KB \stuff\work\docs\info
2 8 KB
\stuff\work\tools\SymantecTools\LicensingTools
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\SymantecTools
2 8 KB \music\mod
2 8 KB \stuff\Desktop
2 20 KB \stuff\Links
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\as


D:\defrag /?
Usage:
defrag volume [-a] [-f] [-v] [-?]
volume drive letter or mount point (d: or d:\vol\mountpoint)
-a Analyze only
-f Force defragmentation even if free space is low
-v Verbose output
-? Display this help text

Can I use -f parameter? Is this safe to use?


Thank you in advance.
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ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
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  #20  
Old March 10th 09, 12:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gerry
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

Phillip

I can see why you are having problems.

The first thing is that volumes C and D do not have the normal 4 kb cluster
size. This can occur in certain situations if they are converted from FAT32
to NTFS without taking precautions. See the link which follows:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.htm
The Default Cluster Size for the NTFS and FAT File Systems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314878/en-us

Other than reformatting I do not know how to correct the error. Of course
with your C volume that involves reinstalling Windows XP and all that
entails.

How many drives are there? Are all volumes on the same drive or are they on
physically separate drives?

The problem with your C volume is more than likely the transaction log. What
is generating the log and what is recorded in the log? Some logs open using
notepad and you can delete older data leaving the more current information.
The size and fragmentation of the file will be preventing effective
defragmentation by the Microsoft Defragmenter. You also have a number of
other log files. Do these also contain old data which you do not need to
keep?

When you run the Microsoft Disk Defragmenter does it complete leaving one or
two of the larger files or does it give up? You should always run cCleaner
(or Disk CleanUp ) before running Disk Defragmenter. If it completes leaving
some files run Disk Defragmenter again and see if the number of fragments
reduce. If this does not work download and run Defraggler. Given the amount
of free space on volume C I would expect Disk Defragmenter and / or
Defraggler to resolve the problem

The problem with your D volume is the same as volume C but much more severe.
I would suspect the problem has been created by placing the images on the
volume when the volume is in a fragmented state. You might avoid the problem
in future by running Disk CleanUp and Disk Defragmenter before putting the
images on the volume. You have 3 large files, which if temporarily removed
from the volume, would enable Disk Defragmenter to work, although it might
take quite a time. Defraggler might work with the files still on the volume.
Do you have access to an external cradle and another hard drive, which you
could connect to your computer. You can then copy the large files to the
external drive deleting the original copies using Shift+Delete to bypass the
Recycle Bin, run Disk Defragmenter and copy the files back. You should find
the large files copied are only in a few fragments and not multi fragmented
as before.

Your E volume should not cause defragmentation problems.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Phillip Pi" wrote in message
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Gerry,

Here you go:

Volume SYSTEM (C
Volume size = 12.00 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 9.63 GB
Free space = 2.37 GB
Percent free space = 19 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 7 %
File fragmentation = 15 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 77,007
Average file size = 180 KB
Total fragmented files = 1,206
Total excess fragments = 307,892
Average fragments per file = 4.99

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 200 MB
Total fragments = 9

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 4,443
Fragmented folders = 13
Excess folder fragments = 33

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 86 MB
MFT record count = 84,627
Percent MFT in use = 96 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
301,225 265 MB \transaction.log
376 10 MB
\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\DataColl\CollectedData_4 1114.xml
296 2 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\cceraser.dll
261 408 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\file1.log
156 913 KB \WINDOWS\KB942763.log
144 1 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\navex32a.dll
130 100 KB \Program Files\Altiris\Altiris
Agent\Logs\Agent8.log
125 100 KB \Program Files\Altiris\Altiris
Agent\Logs\Agent9.log
123 4 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
72 635 KB \WINDOWS\comsetup.log
67 491 KB \WINDOWS\KB955839.log
52 2 MB
\winstuff\DebuggingTools\w2kfre\kdex2x86.dll
49 363 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\eeCtrl.sys
49 991 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan1.dat
44 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\win32k.sys
42 324 KB \WINDOWS\SchCache\Corp.Com.sch
41 3 MB \Program Files\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\v3.5\System.Data.En tity.dll
41 142 KB \WINDOWS\updspapi.log
40 3 MB
\WINDOWS\$hf_mig$\KB953838\SP3QFE\mshtml.dll
39 287 KB \WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini
38 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\dllcache\ntkrnlmp.exe
37 388 KB \WINDOWS\ntdtcsetup.log
36 2 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\3e01c8ea.msi
35 253 KB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\ecmsvr32.dll
32 2 MB \WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Logs\FrameWork.log
31 936 KB \WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.log
30 45 MB \WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.DATA
29 5 MB \Program Files\Reference
Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\v3.0\PresentationFr amework.dll
27 2 MB \Program Files\Common Files\VMware\VMware
Virtual Machine Importer\v2vapp.exe
27 580 KB
\WINDOWS\Installer\{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}\accicons.exe


Volume DATA (D
Volume size = 52.51 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 44.90 GB
Free space = 7.61 GB
Percent free space = 14 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 17,429
Average file size = 3 MB
Total fragmented files = 255
Total excess fragments = 28,534
Average fragments per file = 2.63

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,312
Fragmented folders = 9
Excess folder fragments = 28

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 44 MB
MFT record count = 21,101
Percent MFT in use = 47 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
20,771 11.95 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2
(Simplified Chinese) & Linux\Windows XP Home Edition.vmdk
1,763 3.63 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000003.vmdk
1,168 9.11 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Vista Home
Basic N (experimental)\Windows Vista (experimental).vmdk
900 7 MB \dl\cel_030809.mp3
716 4 MB \Documents and
Settings\phil\ntuser.dat.LOG
642 7.25 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
588 1.71 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
559 3.30 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional-000002.vmdk
391 3 MB \work\tools\cdbxp_setup_4.2.4.1255.exe
260 314 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000004.vmdk
64 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\158839A4.TMP
49 153 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\adityadev007.xml
41 17 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmss
31 220 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Settings.LiveUpdate
29 38 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\air.xml
28 2 MB \winstuff\mcd\BMP.BMP
26 268 KB \winstuff\Trillian3\users\default\cache\cache.ini
20 48 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\aditya.log
18 153 KB \Documents and Settings\phil\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\43p1f9aas.slt\Cache\ _CACHE_001_
17 3 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Log.LiveUpdate
14 19 KB \winstuff\RealAlternativeLite\Media Player
Classic\mplayerc.ini
13 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\480F4270.TMP
12 618 KB \p4_perforce\depot\Services\Docs\QA\Patch\Patch.wb k
11 67 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-2.log
11 60 bytes \lotus\notes\Data\Modems
10 2 MB \Documents and Settings\phil\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\dp1f91yq.slt\history .dat
10 617 KB \p4_perforce\depot\Services\Docs\QA\Patch\Patch.do c
9 51 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-1.log
8 12 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\Dd3291\YAHOO\Query\air.log
8 37 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\vmware-0.log

--

I discovered defrag.exe command line earlier:


D:\defrag -a -v d:
Windows Disk Defragmenter
Copyright (c) 2001 Microsoft Corp. and Executive Software International,
Inc.

Analysis Report

Volume size = 52.51 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 44.90 GB
Free space = 7.61 GB
Percent free space = 14 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 17,417
Average file size = 3 MB
Total fragmented files = 244
Total excess fragments = 28,490
Average fragments per file = 2.63

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,309
Fragmented folders = 8
Excess folder fragments = 27

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 44 MB
MFT record count = 21,086
Percent MFT in use = 46
Total MFT fragments = 2

You should defragment this volume.


Volume BackupsAndArchives (E
Volume size = 9.91 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 2.31 GB
Free space = 7.60 GB
Percent free space = 76 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 21 %
File fragmentation = 43 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 1,551
Average file size = 2 MB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 2
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.00 GB
Total fragments = 3

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 277
Fragmented folders = 12
Excess folder fragments = 48

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 4 MB
MFT record count = 1,843
Percent MFT in use = 43 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
27 112 KB
\stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark\ snmp\mibs
6 32 KB
\stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark\ radius
6 28 KB \stuff\work\tools\WiresharkPortable\App\Wireshark
4 28 KB \stuff\work\tools
3 20 KB \music\midi
2 8 KB \stuff\work\docs\info
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\SymantecTools\LicensingTools
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\SymantecTools
2 8 KB \music\mod
2 8 KB \stuff\Desktop
2 20 KB \stuff\Links
2 8 KB \stuff\work\tools\as


D:\defrag /?
Usage:
defrag volume [-a] [-f] [-v] [-?]
volume drive letter or mount point (d: or d:\vol\mountpoint)
-a Analyze only
-f Force defragmentation even if free space is low
-v Verbose output
-? Display this help text

Can I use -f parameter? Is this safe to use?


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Old March 10th 09, 01:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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On 3/9/2009 4:18 PM PT, Gerry wrote:

The first thing is that volumes C and D do not have the normal 4 kb cluster
size. This can occur in certain situations if they are converted from FAT32
to NTFS without taking precautions. See the link which follows:
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.htm
The Default Cluster Size for the NTFS and FAT File Systems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314878/en-us

Other than reformatting I do not know how to correct the error. Of course
with your C volume that involves reinstalling Windows XP and all that
entails.


Interesting. I did NOT set up these partitions and OS (think it was a
preinstalled image from IT since I remember having to get IT to set up
my account).

Can PartitionMagic v8.01 fix this (of course, backup)? If so, then how
much speed improvements am I expecting? Are you saying defragging won't
fix this slow issue?


How many drives are there? Are all volumes on the same drive or are they on
physically separate drives?


1 physical Maxtor HDD and three MS partitions (C:, D:, and E. And
there a Dell partition so that's four in total.


The problem with your C volume is more than likely the transaction log. What
is generating the log and what is recorded in the log? Some logs open using
notepad and you can delete older data leaving the more current information.


Not sure what it is. I see a bunch of lines like:
S2G: 5 8275
S2G: 5 8275
S2G: 5 8275
S2G: 5 7918
S2G: 5 7918
S2G: 5 7918
S2G: 5 7918
S2G: 5 7918
S2G: 5 7918
Process Explorer and Unlocker doesn't say who has this file opened.


The size and fragmentation of the file will be preventing effective
defragmentation by the Microsoft Defragmenter. You also have a number of
other log files. Do these also contain old data which you do not need to
keep?

When you run the Microsoft Disk Defragmenter does it complete leaving one or
two of the larger files or does it give up? You should always run cCleaner
(or Disk CleanUp ) before running Disk Defragmenter. If it completes leaving
some files run Disk Defragmenter again and see if the number of fragments
reduce. If this does not work download and run Defraggler. Given the amount
of free space on volume C I would expect Disk Defragmenter and / or
Defraggler to resolve the problem


I don't know. I will try again. I will try JKdefrag this time.


The problem with your D volume is the same as volume C but much more severe.
I would suspect the problem has been created by placing the images on the
volume when the volume is in a fragmented state. You might avoid the problem
in future by running Disk CleanUp and Disk Defragmenter before putting the
images on the volume. You have 3 large files, which if temporarily removed
from the volume, would enable Disk Defragmenter to work, although it might
take quite a time. Defraggler might work with the files still on the volume.


I can run it overnight or weekend if needed. I have had these VMware
images for years. The PC is pretty old (3-4 years old).


Do you have access to an external cradle and another hard drive, which you
could connect to your computer. You can then copy the large files to the
external drive deleting the original copies using Shift+Delete to bypass the
Recycle Bin, run Disk Defragmenter and copy the files back. You should find
the large files copied are only in a few fragments and not multi fragmented
as before.


I will try that if things get worse.


Your E volume should not cause defragmentation problems.


Yeah, it looks nice.
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Old March 10th 09, 05:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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The date and time was Monday, March 09, 2009 5:55:37 PM, and on a whim,
Phillip Pi pounded out on the keyboard:


Interesting. I did NOT set up these partitions and OS (think it was a
preinstalled image from IT since I remember having to get IT to set up
my account).

Can PartitionMagic v8.01 fix this (of course, backup)? If so, then how
much speed improvements am I expecting? Are you saying defragging won't
fix this slow issue?



Hi Phillip,

Someone is being very paranoid. There isn't anything wrong with your
cluster sizes. Most likely you have much less wasted space with 512
clusters, and you may have more fragmentation. So what. Use PM8 if you
have it. You can see what the difference in wasted space is by seeing
what you gain/lose by changing the cluster size. PM8 can change your
cluster size if you want it, but like you stated, create a backup first.

I have 3 hard drives with multiple partitions. OS, data, and program
drives are all 512kb cluster sizes. No issues. If you have large files
(video, etc), then use a larger size. But don't freak out because you
don't have 4k clusters. That's fretting over nothing.


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Old March 10th 09, 05:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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The date and time was Monday, March 09, 2009 5:55:37 PM, and on a whim,
Phillip Pi pounded out on the keyboard:


Interesting. I did NOT set up these partitions and OS (think it was a
preinstalled image from IT since I remember having to get IT to set up
my account).

Can PartitionMagic v8.01 fix this (of course, backup)? If so, then how
much speed improvements am I expecting? Are you saying defragging won't
fix this slow issue?



I also recommend JKDefrag, or lately I even like Ultimate Defrag better:
http://www.neowin.net/news/software/...re-edition-172

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Old March 10th 09, 06:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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On 3/9/2009 9:56 PM PT, Terry R. typed:

Someone is being very paranoid. There isn't anything wrong with your
cluster sizes. Most likely you have much less wasted space with 512
clusters, and you may have more fragmentation. So what. Use PM8 if you
have it. You can see what the difference in wasted space is by seeing
what you gain/lose by changing the cluster size. PM8 can change your
cluster size if you want it, but like you stated, create a backup first.

I have 3 hard drives with multiple partitions. OS, data, and program
drives are all 512kb cluster sizes. No issues. If you have large files
(video, etc), then use a larger size. But don't freak out because you
don't have 4k clusters. That's fretting over nothing.


OK, so no performance improvements I assume.
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Old March 10th 09, 09:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Danny

How much minimum free disk space does JkDefrag require?
JkDefrag does not require a minimum free disk space, unlike many other
defragmenters. But:
Windows reserves some space for expansion of the MFT, default is 12.5% of
the volume size. This space is counted by Windows as free space because it
can/will be used for regular files when the rest of the volume is full.
JkDefrag cannot move files into this space, only out of ("reclaim MFT
reserved space").
A file can only be defragmented if there is a gap on disk big enough to hold
the entire file. There may be plenty of free space, but what is needed is a
single big gap. In these cases JkDefrag will try to reduce the number of
fragments in the file by using the biggest gaps available.
http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

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"Danny Krychek" wrote in message
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Ant wrote:

On 3/8/2009 2:57 PM PT, Danny Krychek typed:

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge
files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower
and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance.
Defraggler is a good one .
Do you know if it can handle limited free disk space?

Got GOOGLE?


Yes, but I didn't see the answer. Even its own Web site doesn't say it.


If the author's site doesn't brag about something - and the ability to
defrag with limited free space would give huge bragging rights - then
it can't.



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Old March 10th 09, 10:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Phillip

Whilst I have no experience of using J K Defrag ( it may be an excellent
tool ) some of the claims voiced by others ( not Terry R ) are not true.
Quotes from the J K Defrag site follow:

"All fragmented files are defragmented, simply by moving them to the first
gap on the disk that is big enough. If there is no gap big enough then the
defragmenter will reduce the number of fragments in the file by moving as
much of the file as possible into the largest gaps available."

"How much minimum free disk space does JkDefrag require?
JkDefrag does not require a minimum free disk space, unlike many other
defragmenters. But:
Windows reserves some space for expansion of the MFT, default is 12.5% of
the volume size. This space is counted by Windows as free space because it
can/will be used for regular files when the rest of the volume is full.
JkDefrag cannot move files into this space, only out of ("reclaim MFT
reserved space").
A file can only be defragmented if there is a gap on disk big enough to hold
the entire file. There may be plenty of free space, but what is needed is a
single big gap. In these cases JkDefrag will try to reduce the number of
fragments in the file by using the biggest gaps available."
Sources: http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

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On 3/9/2009 9:56 PM PT, Terry R. typed:

Someone is being very paranoid. There isn't anything wrong with your
cluster sizes. Most likely you have much less wasted space with 512
clusters, and you may have more fragmentation. So what. Use PM8 if you
have it. You can see what the difference in wasted space is by seeing
what you gain/lose by changing the cluster size. PM8 can change your
cluster size if you want it, but like you stated, create a backup first.

I have 3 hard drives with multiple partitions. OS, data, and program
drives are all 512kb cluster sizes. No issues. If you have large files
(video, etc), then use a larger size. But don't freak out because you
don't have 4k clusters. That's fretting over nothing.


OK, so no performance improvements I assume.
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Old March 10th 09, 03:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Interesting. I wonder if mine has enough to do that. I was going to run
it last night, but I needed VMware to run stuff first.

On 3/10/2009 2:01 AM PT, Gerry typed:

Phillip

Whilst I have no experience of using J K Defrag ( it may be an excellent
tool ) some of the claims voiced by others ( not Terry R ) are not true.
Quotes from the J K Defrag site follow:

"All fragmented files are defragmented, simply by moving them to the first
gap on the disk that is big enough. If there is no gap big enough then the
defragmenter will reduce the number of fragments in the file by moving as
much of the file as possible into the largest gaps available."

"How much minimum free disk space does JkDefrag require?
JkDefrag does not require a minimum free disk space, unlike many other
defragmenters. But:
Windows reserves some space for expansion of the MFT, default is 12.5% of
the volume size. This space is counted by Windows as free space because it
can/will be used for regular files when the rest of the volume is full.
JkDefrag cannot move files into this space, only out of ("reclaim MFT
reserved space").
A file can only be defragmented if there is a gap on disk big enough to hold
the entire file. There may be plenty of free space, but what is needed is a
single big gap. In these cases JkDefrag will try to reduce the number of
fragments in the file by using the biggest gaps available."
Sources: http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

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Old March 10th 09, 06:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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The date and time was Monday, March 09, 2009 10:53:32 PM, and on a whim,
Ant pounded out on the keyboard:

On 3/9/2009 9:56 PM PT, Terry R. typed:

Someone is being very paranoid. There isn't anything wrong with your
cluster sizes. Most likely you have much less wasted space with 512
clusters, and you may have more fragmentation. So what. Use PM8 if you
have it. You can see what the difference in wasted space is by seeing
what you gain/lose by changing the cluster size. PM8 can change your
cluster size if you want it, but like you stated, create a backup first.

I have 3 hard drives with multiple partitions. OS, data, and program
drives are all 512kb cluster sizes. No issues. If you have large files
(video, etc), then use a larger size. But don't freak out because you
don't have 4k clusters. That's fretting over nothing.


OK, so no performance improvements I assume.


Phillip,

I doubt you will see any benefits by changing your cluster sizes by the
info you've provided.

If you are able to install and uninstall programs, you could go through
and uninstall any programs that aren't needed any longer. There are
most likely a lot of Windows patch folders that could be moved from
c:\windows to D: or E: (in the unlikely event they would ever need to be
uninstalled, they could be copied back to c:\windows). You could free
up hundreds of megs on C: by doing that. Learn more about that by
reading he
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Hotfix_backup.htm

Your pagefile on C: is already at a minimum size.

My bigger concern would be your "backup and archive" drive E:. It
appears there is only one hard drive in this workstation. So if your IT
dept. isn't backing up your local data to a server, or if your main data
isn't stored on a server and backed up, I would ask the IT people about
that. Because if you are backing up to E: thinking it's safe, it's a
false sense of security. If the hard drive fails you will lose C: D:
and E:, so you lose everything.


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Old March 10th 09, 08:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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On 3/10/2009 10:29 AM PT, Terry R. wrote:

I doubt you will see any benefits by changing your cluster sizes by the
info you've provided.


OK. Then, I won't bother doing that then.


If you are able to install and uninstall programs, you could go through
and uninstall any programs that aren't needed any longer. There are
most likely a lot of Windows patch folders that could be moved from
c:\windows to D: or E: (in the unlikely event they would ever need to be
uninstalled, they could be copied back to c:\windows). You could free
up hundreds of megs on C: by doing that. Learn more about that by
reading he
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Hotfix_backup.htm


Yeah, I have tossed a lot of stuff out already especially SP2, hot
fixes, etc.


Your pagefile on C: is already at a minimum size.


Yes.


My bigger concern would be your "backup and archive" drive E:. It
appears there is only one hard drive in this workstation. So if your IT
dept. isn't backing up your local data to a server, or if your main data
isn't stored on a server and backed up, I would ask the IT people about
that. Because if you are backing up to E: thinking it's safe, it's a
false sense of security. If the hard drive fails you will lose C: D:
and E:, so you lose everything.


I do make weekly backups manually to a server as an offline and shared
backup. I use E: drive as my local storage.
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Old March 10th 09, 08:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Phillip

Earlier you queried whether there might be speed improvements from changing
the cluster size. This is not an easy one to answer as any performance gains
are difficult to measure and often subjective. The performance benefits
coming from a larger cluster size arise from a reduced rate of file
fragmentation where the average file size is large. You are of course trying
to resolve a situation where file fragmentation has become a serious problem
so ideally you would not want something that speeds up fragmentation. You
will see a noticeable improvement if you can eliminate fragmentation but
this will only last for a while until you need to cleanup and defragment
again. I suspect that the preliminary disk cleanup helps as much as
defragmentation. Apart from resolving severe fragmentation defragmenting is
only one measure contributing to better system performance. Other factors
are often more important. The CPU capacity and the amount of RAM are the
more important normal bottlenecks holding back system performance but there
are a number of other factors which can apply. I do not think changing the
cluster size is worthwhile given the likely benefits.

You would see an improved system performance if you could increase the
available free disk space to 25 to 35% but this is not easily measurable.

You have a pagefile on volume E, which is part of a single drive. Most
people, who have diverse views on best practice regarding the pagefile,
would not consider this helps system performance. You should either have a
single pagefile on volume C or have a dedicated pagefile partition as the
first partition on a second hard drive leaving a small pagefile in volume C.
Which is best causes many heated debates between the two opposing
viewpoints but no one would advocate what you have to achieve best
performance.

The logic underlying the partition structure is unclear to me. What is meant
to be the purpose of each partition? I cannot see the benefit to be gained
from moving files from C to D as both have limited free space. I cannot see
any system restore points. Has system restore been turned off. With regard
to C you might look at the points detailed below, which may marginally help.

Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary
internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk.
The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files,
Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days
history is held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System
Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to
existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is
written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file.

If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

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"Ant" wrote in message
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Interesting. I wonder if mine has enough to do that. I was going to run it
last night, but I needed VMware to run stuff first.

On 3/10/2009 2:01 AM PT, Gerry typed:

Phillip

Whilst I have no experience of using J K Defrag ( it may be an excellent
tool ) some of the claims voiced by others ( not Terry R ) are not true.
Quotes from the J K Defrag site follow:

"All fragmented files are defragmented, simply by moving them to the
first gap on the disk that is big enough. If there is no gap big enough
then the defragmenter will reduce the number of fragments in the file by
moving as much of the file as possible into the largest gaps available."

"How much minimum free disk space does JkDefrag require?
JkDefrag does not require a minimum free disk space, unlike many other
defragmenters. But:
Windows reserves some space for expansion of the MFT, default is 12.5% of
the volume size. This space is counted by Windows as free space because
it can/will be used for regular files when the rest of the volume is
full. JkDefrag cannot move files into this space, only out of ("reclaim
MFT reserved space").
A file can only be defragmented if there is a gap on disk big enough to
hold the entire file. There may be plenty of free space, but what is
needed is a single big gap. In these cases JkDefrag will try to reduce
the number of fragments in the file by using the biggest gaps available."
Sources: http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

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