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Old January 19th 10, 11:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gary
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What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c
drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk scan"

The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
piece of hardware.


Gary
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Old January 19th 10, 12:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
David H. Lipman
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From: "Gary"

| What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c
| drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk scan"

| The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
| piece of hardware.


| Gary

It means replace the hard disk drive ASAP!

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Old January 19th 10, 12:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Carmel
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:01:11 -0500
David H. Lipman articulated:

From: "Gary"

| What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on
c | drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk
scan"

| The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
| piece of hardware.


| Gary

It means replace the hard disk drive ASAP!


Then again, you could just get a copy of SpinRite
http://www.grc.com/intro.htm and run it on the drive. Set it to its
highest level of detection and repair before running it on the drive.
It has saved me hundreds of dollars over the years. I just recently
used it on a laptop that two repair shops had declared unsalvageable.
If SpinRite declares the drive is broken, then purchase another one.

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Old January 19th 10, 02:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
David B.[_2_]
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No it doesn't, it means you should run the hard drive mfg's diagnostics on
the drive to determine if it is in fact bad.

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From: "Gary"

| What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c
| drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk scan"

| The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
| piece of hardware.


| Gary

It means replace the hard disk drive ASAP!

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http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
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Old January 19th 10, 02:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gerry
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David

Encore.

Gary

Another suggestion.Run a full surface scan with HD Tune to check for bad
sectors on the hard drive.

HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.

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David B. wrote:
No it doesn't, it means you should run the hard drive mfg's
diagnostics on the drive to determine if it is in fact bad.

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From: "Gary"

What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on
c drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk
scan"


The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
piece of hardware.



Gary


It means replace the hard disk drive ASAP!

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http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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Old January 19th 10, 03:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Carmel wrote:
Then again, you could just get a copy of SpinRite
http://www.grc.com/intro.htm and run it on the drive. Set it to its
highest level of detection and repair before running it on the drive.
It has saved me hundreds of dollars over the years. I just recently
used it on a laptop that two repair shops had declared unsalvageable.
If SpinRite declares the drive is broken, then purchase another one.



Spinrite is fairly well all hype now, and no bark. The techniques that
the author of Spinrite talks about were effective back in the days of
MFM & RLL hard drives. Though the author says they have been updated for
modern drives, the claims are dubious at best.

I have never gotten Spinrite to recover one red bit of data.

Yousuf Khan
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Old January 19th 10, 03:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Gary
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Thanks--I'll try all 3 Options

Gary


On 1/19/2010 9:40 AM, Gerry wrote:
David

Encore.

Gary

Another suggestion.Run a full surface scan with HD Tune to check for bad
sectors on the hard drive.

HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up. You want HD Tune
(freeware) version 2.55 not HD Tune Pro (not Freeware) version 3.00.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.


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Old January 19th 10, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Gary wrote:
What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c
drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk scan"

The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
piece of hardware.


Download the free Everest utilities, from the following website:

http://www.lavalys.com/

Run the Storage - SMART report on the appropriate hard drive, and post
the results to your reply.

Yousuf Khan
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Old January 19th 10, 03:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
David B.[_2_]
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Completely incorrect, I've used it on a number of current drives with very
good results, I've recovered quite a bit of clients data with it.

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Carmel wrote:
Then again, you could just get a copy of SpinRite
http://www.grc.com/intro.htm and run it on the drive. Set it to its
highest level of detection and repair before running it on the drive.
It has saved me hundreds of dollars over the years. I just recently
used it on a laptop that two repair shops had declared unsalvageable.
If SpinRite declares the drive is broken, then purchase another one.



Spinrite is fairly well all hype now, and no bark. The techniques that the
author of Spinrite talks about were effective back in the days of MFM &
RLL hard drives. Though the author says they have been updated for modern
drives, the claims are dubious at best.

I have never gotten Spinrite to recover one red bit of data.

Yousuf Khan


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Old January 19th 10, 03:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
David B.[_2_]
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A smart report is useless, more often than not when I find a bad hard drive.
smart believes there is no problem with the drive, it's unreliable at best.

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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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Gary wrote:
What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c
drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk scan"

The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad piece
of hardware.


Download the free Everest utilities, from the following website:

http://www.lavalys.com/

Run the Storage - SMART report on the appropriate hard drive, and post
the results to your reply.

Yousuf Khan


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Old January 19th 10, 03:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
David H. Lipman
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From: "Carmel"

| On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:01:11 -0500
| David H. Lipman articulated:

From: "Gary"


| What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on
c | drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk
scan"


| The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
| piece of hardware.



| Gary


It means replace the hard disk drive ASAP!



| Then again, you could just get a copy of SpinRite

Definitely NOT !

No Gibson Research crap.

If software is to be used it should be the manufacturer's diagnostic.

Examples:
Western Digitial - WD Diagnostics
Seagate - SeaTols
IBM/Hitachi - Drive Fitness Test



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Old January 19th 10, 05:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Carmel
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:21:48 -0500


No Gibson Research crap.


Did you actually ever use it, or are you just suffering from verbal
diarrhea? If you did employ it, kindly post your results. (SpinRite will
create a log if instructed to. Only an amateur would use it sans a log
file.)

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Old January 19th 10, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Cronos
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David B. wrote:
A smart report is useless, more often than not when I find a bad hard
drive. smart believes there is no problem with the drive, it's
unreliable at best.


HDtune is good at finding bad sectors if you use the slow scan mode. I
was getting BSOD on Vista once and suspected the HDD after finding no
issue with ram or anything else but even the HDD manufacturer's
diagnostics software didn't see the bad block causing it. Ran HDTune in
slow scan mode and it found it, replaced the HDD and no more BSOD.

http://www.hdtune.com/
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Old January 19th 10, 07:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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David B. wrote:

A smart report is useless, more often than not when I find a bad hard drive. smart believes there is no problem with
the drive, it's unreliable at best.


Wrong. You do need to be able to interpret the raw data and not
just mindlessly look at the OKs, and when you do that, you can often
see a failing hard drive from the number of reallocated sectors etc.


Gary wrote:
What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on
c drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk
scan" The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad
piece of hardware.


Download the free Everest utilities, from the following website:

http://www.lavalys.com/

Run the Storage - SMART report on the appropriate hard drive, and
post the results to your reply.

Yousuf Khan



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Old January 19th 10, 08:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. wrote:
A smart report is useless, more often than not when I find a bad hard drive.
smart believes there is no problem with the drive, it's unreliable at best.


Nobody said to look at the "smart status", which is pretty useless.
Hovever the concrete values of the individual SMART attributes are
not. Seems you are not using 99% of what SMART offers.

Arno




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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
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Gary wrote:
What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c
drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk scan"

The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad piece
of hardware.


Download the free Everest utilities, from the following website:

http://www.lavalys.com/

Run the Storage - SMART report on the appropriate hard drive, and post
the results to your reply.

Yousuf Khan



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