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December 27th 04, 03:02 PM
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Boot to recovery disk
I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal USB
CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance from experienced members. Hardware in use:- 1. Toshiba R150 NB 2. Bootable floppy drive 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter Software in use:- 1. Toshiba recovery disk 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows Explorer, format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk. 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver to the floppy disk making the total files as below:-. COMMAND.COM CONFIG.SYS DI1000DD.SYS DISPLAY.SYS EGA2.CPI EGA3.CPI EGA.CPI IO.SYS KEYB.COM KEYBOARD.SYS KEYBRD2.SYS KEYBRD3.SYS KEYBRD4.SYS MODE.COM MSDOS.SYS RAMFD.SYS USBASPI.SYS 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file. device=ramfd.sys device=usbaspi.sys /r device=di1000dd.sys When power-on, the following message appeared:- Starting... RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB Data copy completion. Device driver installed. ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00 Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd. Available ID = Not found installable device. Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999. A:\_ It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can someone advise me how to make it work. Thanks, Ray 
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December 27th 04, 07:09 PM
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This may be a blind shoot but it seems that the BIOS already
"mounted" your USB CD as emulated drive A. So, the DOS CD-ROM driver is not able to reuse it. --PA "Ray" wrote: I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal USB CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance from experienced members. Hardware in use:- 1. Toshiba R150 NB 2. Bootable floppy drive 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter Software in use:- 1. Toshiba recovery disk 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows Explorer, format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk. 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver to the floppy disk making the total files as below:-. COMMAND.COM CONFIG.SYS DI1000DD.SYS DISPLAY.SYS EGA2.CPI EGA3.CPI EGA.CPI IO.SYS KEYB.COM KEYBOARD.SYS KEYBRD2.SYS KEYBRD3.SYS KEYBRD4.SYS MODE.COM MSDOS.SYS RAMFD.SYS USBASPI.SYS 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file. device=ramfd.sys device=usbaspi.sys /r device=di1000dd.sys When power-on, the following message appeared:- Starting... RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB Data copy completion. Device driver installed. ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00 Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd. Available ID = Not found installable device. Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999. A:\_ It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can someone advise me how to make it work. Thanks, Ray
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December 28th 04, 06:40 PM
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RC,
Obviously, you did miss my question. Booting to recovery disk must have OS issue. I need to recover the OS. The popular way to recover the OS is using recovery disk provided by the computer suppliers. I believe most of IT people should know it without explanation. If not, please forgive me and I take this opportunity to explain in detail. From your question, probably you are not aware of DOS USB driver that is quite popular and developing since 2003. The hardware that I am talking about of course is for Windows XP. Hope you now feel better. Ray "R. C. White" wrote in message ... Hi, Ray. You are hopelessly entangling several conflicting products here. :( First, Microsoft did not write that Recovery Disk and does not know what is on it. That's Toshiba's creation, so you'll have to deal with Toshiba on any question about that. Second, Windows ME is based on MS-DOS. It knows NOTHING about Windows XP. Why are you booting into MS-DOS? Third: What is your WinXP problem? I can't tell from your post. You start out by telling us how you've tried to fix...something...but you never say what was wrong in the first place. Or maybe it was in there somewhere, but I missed it. Why do you want or need to boot the Recovery Disk? This is a peer-to-peer newsgroup, not Microsoft Support, and you gave plenty of system details, so there is a very good chance that someone here will recognize your hardware and be able to make suggestions. However, you would have a better chance if you start at the beginning by telling us clearly just what problem you are trying to solve. If you just want to boot the Recovery Disk, ask Toshiba Tech Support. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP "Ray" wrote in message ... I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal USB CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance from experienced members. Hardware in use:- 1. Toshiba R150 NB 2. Bootable floppy drive 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter Software in use:- 1. Toshiba recovery disk 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows Explorer, format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk. 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver to the floppy disk making the total files as below:-. COMMAND.COM CONFIG.SYS DI1000DD.SYS DISPLAY.SYS EGA2.CPI EGA3.CPI EGA.CPI IO.SYS KEYB.COM KEYBOARD.SYS KEYBRD2.SYS KEYBRD3.SYS KEYBRD4.SYS MODE.COM MSDOS.SYS RAMFD.SYS USBASPI.SYS 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file. device=ramfd.sys device=usbaspi.sys /r device=di1000dd.sys When power-on, the following message appeared:- Starting... RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB Data copy completion. Device driver installed. ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00 Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd. Available ID = Not found installable device. Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999. A:\_ It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can someone advise me how to make it work. Thanks, Ray
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December 29th 04, 03:17 PM
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"R. C. White" wrote in message
You are hopelessly entangling several conflicting products here. :( First, Microsoft did not write that Recovery Disk and does not know what is on it. That's Toshiba's creation, so you'll have to deal with Toshiba on any question about that. Well, sorta. Those who buy bland lame systems are stuck with these recovery disks, which MS finds acceptable as licensed product. The OEM is responsible for support, as always with OEM MS software, but nonetheless it's the OS that MS wrote. Second, Windows ME is based on MS-DOS. It knows NOTHING about Windows XP. WinME isn't "based on DOS" any more than Win95 was; the relationship to DOS is more complex than that. Why are you booting into MS-DOS? Possibly because XP as a CD-booted OS is too useless to do what he wants to do, such as create FAT32 partitions 32G? Or is your line that if XP can't do it, you don't need it? The above is VERY likely to apply with the crippleware OEM recovery CDs, which are likely to give the user no chance to create any sort of custom partitioning at all, or use a response file to customise the installation process (e.g. avoid default OS path, etc.). Third: What is your WinXP problem? I can't tell from your post. You start out by telling us how you've tried to fix...something...but you never say what was wrong in the first place. Or maybe it was in there somewhere, but I missed it. Why do you want or need to boot the Recovery Disk? *Now* you are making sense ;-) you would have a better chance if you start at the beginning by telling us clearly just what problem you are trying to solve. Amen! "Ray" wrote in message I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal USB CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance Hardware in use:- 1. Toshiba R150 NB 2. Bootable floppy drive 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter Software in use:- 1. Toshiba recovery disk 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows Explorer, format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk. 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver to the floppy disk making the total files as below:-. COMMAND.COM CONFIG.SYS DI1000DD.SYS DISPLAY.SYS EGA2.CPI EGA3.CPI EGA.CPI IO.SYS KEYB.COM KEYBOARD.SYS KEYBRD2.SYS KEYBRD3.SYS KEYBRD4.SYS MODE.COM MSDOS.SYS RAMFD.SYS USBASPI.SYS 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file. device=ramfd.sys device=usbaspi.sys /r device=di1000dd.sys What I don't see here, is a line in A:\Autoexec.bat that binds MSCDEx to your CD-ROM driver (presumably di1000dd.sys ?). Without that, you have extended BIOS support to the CD drive, but you haven't extended OS support to use that drive. Try this... 1) Copy MSCDEX.EXE to A: 2) Edit this line in A:\CONFIG.SYS device=di1000dd.sys /D:8CHRNAME 3) Add this line to A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT mscdex /D:8CHRNAME When power-on, the following message appeared:- Starting... RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB Data copy completion. Device driver installed. ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00 Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd. Available ID = Not found installable device. Missing /D: parameter? Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999. A:\_ It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can someone advise me how to make it work. ---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - "He's such a character!" ' Yeah - CHAR(0) ' ---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
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December 29th 04, 05:41 PM
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Boot to recovery disk
Cquirke,
Thanks for your useful advice. I believe the XP startup disk is useless for this application and I will change it to Windows 98 SE that supports CD-ROM drive, MSCDEX. Then try your suggestion. Ray "cquirke (MVP Win9x)" wrote in message ... "R. C. White" wrote in message You are hopelessly entangling several conflicting products here. :( First, Microsoft did not write that Recovery Disk and does not know what is on it. That's Toshiba's creation, so you'll have to deal with Toshiba on any question about that. Well, sorta. Those who buy bland lame systems are stuck with these recovery disks, which MS finds acceptable as licensed product. The OEM is responsible for support, as always with OEM MS software, but nonetheless it's the OS that MS wrote. Second, Windows ME is based on MS-DOS. It knows NOTHING about Windows XP. WinME isn't "based on DOS" any more than Win95 was; the relationship to DOS is more complex than that. Why are you booting into MS-DOS? Possibly because XP as a CD-booted OS is too useless to do what he wants to do, such as create FAT32 partitions 32G? Or is your line that if XP can't do it, you don't need it? The above is VERY likely to apply with the crippleware OEM recovery CDs, which are likely to give the user no chance to create any sort of custom partitioning at all, or use a response file to customise the installation process (e.g. avoid default OS path, etc.). Third: What is your WinXP problem? I can't tell from your post. You start out by telling us how you've tried to fix...something...but you never say what was wrong in the first place. Or maybe it was in there somewhere, but I missed it. Why do you want or need to boot the Recovery Disk? *Now* you are making sense ;-) you would have a better chance if you start at the beginning by telling us clearly just what problem you are trying to solve. Amen! "Ray" wrote in message I tried to set up to boot the recovery disk without success using normal USB CD-ROM drive and looking forward to any assistance Hardware in use:- 1. Toshiba R150 NB 2. Bootable floppy drive 3. HP 8100 IDE CD Writer Plus + USB 2.0 to IDE adapter Software in use:- 1. Toshiba recovery disk 2. Create a bootable floppy disk using Windows XP Pro, Windows Explorer, format option of Create a MS-DOS startup disk. 3. Add ramfd.sys, usbaspi.sys, di1000dd.sys of Motto Hairu DOS Driver to the floppy disk making the total files as below:-. COMMAND.COM CONFIG.SYS DI1000DD.SYS DISPLAY.SYS EGA2.CPI EGA3.CPI EGA.CPI IO.SYS KEYB.COM KEYBOARD.SYS KEYBRD2.SYS KEYBRD3.SYS KEYBRD4.SYS MODE.COM MSDOS.SYS RAMFD.SYS USBASPI.SYS 4. Add following statements in the empty Config.sys file. device=ramfd.sys device=usbaspi.sys /r device=di1000dd.sys What I don't see here, is a line in A:\Autoexec.bat that binds MSCDEx to your CD-ROM driver (presumably di1000dd.sys ?). Without that, you have extended BIOS support to the CD drive, but you haven't extended OS support to use that drive. Try this... 1) Copy MSCDEX.EXE to A: 2) Edit this line in A:\CONFIG.SYS device=di1000dd.sys /D:8CHRNAME 3) Add this line to A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT mscdex /D:8CHRNAME When power-on, the following message appeared:- Starting... RAM FD DRIVER Version 1.00 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. Media type : 2HD - 1.44MB Data copy completion. Device driver installed. ASPI for UHCI/OHCI USB mass-storage Version 1.07 Copyright(C) 2001 NOVAC Co.,Ltd. ID:0 LUN:0 = HP CD-Writer+ 8100 1.0g DI1000 ASPI DISK Driver Ver 2.00 Copyright(C)2001 NOVAC C0.,Ltd. Available ID = Not found installable device. Missing /D: parameter? Microsoft(R) Windows Millennium (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999. A:\_ It seems the driver is working to recognise the HP CD-Writer. However, I could not instruct the computer to read the files in the CD-Writer. Can someone advise me how to make it work. ---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - "He's such a character!" ' Yeah - CHAR(0) ' ---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
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