Removing a partition

Bill in Co. wrote:
Kate wrote:
My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back,

That's WAY more than one needs, however.

and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Something is wrong here, and consuming that memory. :-)

Quit one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition.

Memory is different than disk space. I don't think the issue is with your
disk space and partition size.

There is a bug with Windows 98 that makes it difficult to work with more
than 512MB of RAM.

Google Answers: Windows 98 Maximum RAM
http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/333688.html

The OP was saying that after she installed additional RAM on W98, it
stopped working, so she figured she might as well delete and reallocate
the disk space used by it.

Yousuf Khan

Bill in Co. wrote:
Kate wrote:
My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back,

That's WAY more than one needs, however.

and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Something is wrong here, and consuming that memory. :-)

Quit one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition.

Memory is different than disk space. I don't think the issue is with your
disk space and partition size.

There is a bug with Windows 98 that makes it difficult to work with more
than 512MB of RAM.

Google Answers: Windows 98 Maximum RAM
http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/333688.html

The OP was saying that after she installed additional RAM on W98, it
stopped working, so she figured she might as well delete and reallocate
the disk space used by it.

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Kate wrote:
My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back,

That's WAY more than one needs, however.

and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Something is wrong here, and consuming that memory. :-)

Quit one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition.

Memory is different than disk space. I don't think the issue is
with your disk space and partition size.

There is a bug with Windows 98 that makes it difficult to work with more
than 512MB of RAM.

Google Answers: Windows 98 Maximum RAM
http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/333688.html

The OP was saying that after she installed additional RAM on W98, it
stopped working, so she figured she might as well delete and reallocate
the disk space used by it.

Yousuf Khan

But what that article doesn't address, is the fix that Kate is already
using. There is the MaxPhysPage=20000 fix, which makes the excess RAM
invisible to the OS.

I've used that on my Core2 Duo system. My newest system has 2GB of RAM
on it, and using MaxPhysPage=20000 discards 1.5GB and only 512MB is
visible (that is what the 20000 hex is equal to).

To do it, I started the install for Win98, and on the first reboot,
booted into another OS instead and edited the file, and added the MaxPhysPage
setting. Then, I rebooted and let Win98 boot from the hard drive for
the first time. It worked fine. I updated to Win98SE, as I have that
one too (upgrade disc).

These are the limits I've seen before, but rather than take a chance,
I just cut my MaxPhysPage to 20000 or 512MB, just to be sure.

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=524288 (or a lesser number if you want)

[386enh]
MaxPhysPage=40000 (limits physical RAM reported to Win98 to 1GB)

Only one core is visible in Win98, but it was still pretty snappy. The
drive with Win98 on it, sits in the corner, and I really haven't had a
reason to plug it in again. I have drivers for everything, and Device
Manager is just as clean in Win98SE as it is in WinXP. (I leave my HDAudio
turned off and use a PCI sound card instead, and it has Win98 drivers
available.)

Paul

Yousuf Khan wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Kate wrote:
My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back,

That's WAY more than one needs, however.

and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Something is wrong here, and consuming that memory. :-)

Quit one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition.

Memory is different than disk space. I don't think the issue is
with your disk space and partition size.

There is a bug with Windows 98 that makes it difficult to work with more
than 512MB of RAM.

Google Answers: Windows 98 Maximum RAM
http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/333688.html

The OP was saying that after she installed additional RAM on W98, it
stopped working, so she figured she might as well delete and reallocate
the disk space used by it.

Yousuf Khan

But what that article doesn't address, is the fix that Kate is already
using. There is the MaxPhysPage=20000 fix, which makes the excess RAM
invisible to the OS.

I've used that on my Core2 Duo system. My newest system has 2GB of RAM
on it, and using MaxPhysPage=20000 discards 1.5GB and only 512MB is
visible (that is what the 20000 hex is equal to).

To do it, I started the install for Win98, and on the first reboot,
booted into another OS instead and edited the file, and added the MaxPhysPage
setting. Then, I rebooted and let Win98 boot from the hard drive for
the first time. It worked fine. I updated to Win98SE, as I have that
one too (upgrade disc).

These are the limits I've seen before, but rather than take a chance,
I just cut my MaxPhysPage to 20000 or 512MB, just to be sure.

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=524288 (or a lesser number if you want)

[386enh]
MaxPhysPage=40000 (limits physical RAM reported to Win98 to 1GB)

Only one core is visible in Win98, but it was still pretty snappy. The
drive with Win98 on it, sits in the corner, and I really haven't had a
reason to plug it in again. I have drivers for everything, and Device
Manager is just as clean in Win98SE as it is in WinXP. (I leave my HDAudio
turned off and use a PCI sound card instead, and it has Win98 drivers
available.)

Paul

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Yousuf Khan wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Kate wrote:
My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win
XP SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this
partition and it was only created so that I could run old
software. I increased RAM to 1.5 GB a while back,

That's WAY more than one needs, however.

and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE today, I got the
"Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Something is wrong here, and consuming that memory. :-)

Quit one or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried
the system.ini workaround modification of adding
MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but that didn`t work, so I think I
shall have to finally say farewell to Win 98 and delete the
partition.

Memory is different than disk space. I don't think the issue is
with your disk space and partition size.

There is a bug with Windows 98 that makes it difficult to work with
more than 512MB of RAM.

Google Answers: Windows 98 Maximum RAM
http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/333688.html

The OP was saying that after she installed additional RAM on W98,
it stopped working, so she figured she might as well delete and
reallocate the disk space used by it.

Yousuf Khan

But what that article doesn't address, is the fix that Kate is
already using. There is the MaxPhysPage=20000 fix, which makes the
excess RAM invisible to the OS.

I've used that on my Core2 Duo system. My newest system has 2GB of
RAM on it, and using MaxPhysPage=20000 discards 1.5GB and only 512MB
is visible (that is what the 20000 hex is equal to).

To do it, I started the install for Win98, and on the first reboot,
booted into another OS instead and edited the file, and added the
MaxPhysPage setting. Then, I rebooted and let Win98 boot from the
hard drive for the first time. It worked fine. I updated to Win98SE,
as I have that one too (upgrade disc).

These are the limits I've seen before, but rather than take a
chance, I just cut my MaxPhysPage to 20000 or 512MB, just to be
sure.

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=524288 (or a lesser number if you want)

[386enh]
MaxPhysPage=40000 (limits physical RAM reported to Win98 to
1GB)

Only one core is visible in Win98, but it was still pretty snappy.
The drive with Win98 on it, sits in the corner, and I really haven't
had a reason to plug it in again. I have drivers for everything, and
Device Manager is just as clean in Win98SE as it is in WinXP. (I
leave my HDAudio turned off and use a PCI sound card instead, and it
has Win98 drivers available.)

Paul

Just to clarify, I already had Win98 installed on C: partition and it
ran fine until after the RAM increase.

I did a whole lot more research last night and found several
references to MaxPhysPage and also MaxFileCache. The latter was not
mentioned in the Microsoft article I originally found. I also
discovered that during Safe Mode boot, System.ini is ignored by Win98
so any alterations to the .ini file will not be effective, but I only
had the option to use Safe Mode when I tried to boot because "Windows
was not shut down properly" and so on. I added the MaxFileCache line
to System.ini anyway and did a Safe Mode boot with the step by step
choice, clicking `Y` for most of it, and it booted OK. I was then
able to restart and boot normally. I haven`t been able to check if my
programs run OK as yet. If I do have problems, I shall probably try
increasing the MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache figures, as at least one
poster on the forum threads I found mentioned that they had not had
problems at 1GB RAM.

Kate

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Yousuf Khan wrote:
Bill in Co. wrote:
Kate wrote:
My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win
XP SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this
partition and it was only created so that I could run old
software. I increased RAM to 1.5 GB a while back,

That's WAY more than one needs, however.

and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE today, I got the
"Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.

Something is wrong here, and consuming that memory. :-)

Quit one or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried
the system.ini workaround modification of adding
MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but that didn`t work, so I think I
shall have to finally say farewell to Win 98 and delete the
partition.

Memory is different than disk space. I don't think the issue is
with your disk space and partition size.

There is a bug with Windows 98 that makes it difficult to work with
more than 512MB of RAM.

Google Answers: Windows 98 Maximum RAM
http://answers.google.com/answers/th...id/333688.html

The OP was saying that after she installed additional RAM on W98,
it stopped working, so she figured she might as well delete and
reallocate the disk space used by it.

Yousuf Khan

But what that article doesn't address, is the fix that Kate is
already using. There is the MaxPhysPage=20000 fix, which makes the
excess RAM invisible to the OS.

I've used that on my Core2 Duo system. My newest system has 2GB of
RAM on it, and using MaxPhysPage=20000 discards 1.5GB and only 512MB
is visible (that is what the 20000 hex is equal to).

To do it, I started the install for Win98, and on the first reboot,
booted into another OS instead and edited the file, and added the
MaxPhysPage setting. Then, I rebooted and let Win98 boot from the
hard drive for the first time. It worked fine. I updated to Win98SE,
as I have that one too (upgrade disc).

These are the limits I've seen before, but rather than take a
chance, I just cut my MaxPhysPage to 20000 or 512MB, just to be
sure.

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=524288 (or a lesser number if you want)

[386enh]
MaxPhysPage=40000 (limits physical RAM reported to Win98 to
1GB)

Only one core is visible in Win98, but it was still pretty snappy.
The drive with Win98 on it, sits in the corner, and I really haven't
had a reason to plug it in again. I have drivers for everything, and
Device Manager is just as clean in Win98SE as it is in WinXP. (I
leave my HDAudio turned off and use a PCI sound card instead, and it
has Win98 drivers available.)

Paul

Just to clarify, I already had Win98 installed on C: partition and it
ran fine until after the RAM increase.

I did a whole lot more research last night and found several
references to MaxPhysPage and also MaxFileCache. The latter was not
mentioned in the Microsoft article I originally found. I also
discovered that during Safe Mode boot, System.ini is ignored by Win98
so any alterations to the .ini file will not be effective, but I only
had the option to use Safe Mode when I tried to boot because "Windows
was not shut down properly" and so on. I added the MaxFileCache line
to System.ini anyway and did a Safe Mode boot with the step by step
choice, clicking `Y` for most of it, and it booted OK. I was then
able to restart and boot normally. I haven`t been able to check if my
programs run OK as yet. If I do have problems, I shall probably try
increasing the MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache figures, as at least one
poster on the forum threads I found mentioned that they had not had
problems at 1GB RAM.

Kate

How do I find out if I am using dual boot, please? When I boot the
computer, I am offered the choice of Win XP or Windows. XP is first
and if I do nothing, the machine will start up XP in F: drive. I have
to manually select "Windows" if I want to use Win98 in C: drive. When
I am in XP, I can access C: drive directory with Windows Explorer, but
when in Win98, I cannot access the XP directory.

Kate


"Andy" wrote in message
...
If you're using Microsoft dual boot, the Windows 98 partition
contains the boot files for Windows XP, so Disk Management won't let
you delete the partition. If you delete the partition using other
means, you won't be able to boot Windows XP.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:41:08 -0000, "Kate"

wrote:

My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I
increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back, and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows. Quit
one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition. I have never had to do this
before.
Is it just a matter of going to Disk Management, highlighting the
volume letter and pressing delete? Also, will the freed disk space
be
automatically added to F:/ drive? Unless, of course, someone knows
of
another workaround I could try, short of physically removing some
RAM,
please?

Many thanks
Kate

How do I find out if I am using dual boot, please? When I boot the
computer, I am offered the choice of Win XP or Windows. XP is first
and if I do nothing, the machine will start up XP in F: drive. I have
to manually select "Windows" if I want to use Win98 in C: drive. When
I am in XP, I can access C: drive directory with Windows Explorer, but
when in Win98, I cannot access the XP directory.

Kate


"Andy" wrote in message
...
If you're using Microsoft dual boot, the Windows 98 partition
contains the boot files for Windows XP, so Disk Management won't let
you delete the partition. If you delete the partition using other
means, you won't be able to boot Windows XP.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:41:08 -0000, "Kate"

wrote:

My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I
increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back, and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows. Quit
one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition. I have never had to do this
before.
Is it just a matter of going to Disk Management, highlighting the
volume letter and pressing delete? Also, will the freed disk space
be
automatically added to F:/ drive? Unless, of course, someone knows
of
another workaround I could try, short of physically removing some
RAM,
please?

Many thanks
Kate

That is Dual Boot.

Kate wrote:
How do I find out if I am using dual boot, please? When I boot the
computer, I am offered the choice of Win XP or Windows. XP is first
and if I do nothing, the machine will start up XP in F: drive. I have
to manually select "Windows" if I want to use Win98 in C: drive. When
I am in XP, I can access C: drive directory with Windows Explorer, but
when in Win98, I cannot access the XP directory.

Kate


"Andy" wrote in message
...

If you're using Microsoft dual boot, the Windows 98 partition
contains the boot files for Windows XP, so Disk Management won't let
you delete the partition. If you delete the partition using other
means, you won't be able to boot Windows XP.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:41:08 -0000, "Kate"

wrote:

My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I
increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back, and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows. Quit
one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition. I have never had to do this
before.
Is it just a matter of going to Disk Management, highlighting the
volume letter and pressing delete? Also, will the freed disk space
be
automatically added to F:/ drive? Unless, of course, someone knows
of
another workaround I could try, short of physically removing some
RAM,
please?

Many thanks
Kate

That is Dual Boot.

Kate wrote:
How do I find out if I am using dual boot, please? When I boot the
computer, I am offered the choice of Win XP or Windows. XP is first
and if I do nothing, the machine will start up XP in F: drive. I have
to manually select "Windows" if I want to use Win98 in C: drive. When
I am in XP, I can access C: drive directory with Windows Explorer, but
when in Win98, I cannot access the XP directory.

Kate


"Andy" wrote in message
...

If you're using Microsoft dual boot, the Windows 98 partition
contains the boot files for Windows XP, so Disk Management won't let
you delete the partition. If you delete the partition using other
means, you won't be able to boot Windows XP.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:41:08 -0000, "Kate"

wrote:

My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I
increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back, and when I tried to boot into Win 98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows. Quit
one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh], but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell to
Win 98 and delete the partition. I have never had to do this
before.
Is it just a matter of going to Disk Management, highlighting the
volume letter and pressing delete? Also, will the freed disk space
be
automatically added to F:/ drive? Unless, of course, someone knows
of
another workaround I could try, short of physically removing some
RAM,
please?

Many thanks
Kate

Thanks for the confirmation, and to Andy for the warning.

Kate

"Bob I" wrote in message
...
That is Dual Boot.

Kate wrote:
How do I find out if I am using dual boot, please? When I boot the
computer, I am offered the choice of Win XP or Windows. XP is
first
and if I do nothing, the machine will start up XP in F: drive. I
have
to manually select "Windows" if I want to use Win98 in C: drive.
When
I am in XP, I can access C: drive directory with Windows Explorer,
but
when in Win98, I cannot access the XP directory.

Kate


"Andy" wrote in message
...

If you're using Microsoft dual boot, the Windows 98 partition
contains the boot files for Windows XP, so Disk Management won't
let you delete the partition. If you delete the partition using
other means, you won't be able to boot Windows XP.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:41:08 -0000, "Kate"

wrote:

My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win
XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this
partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I
increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back, and when I tried to boot into Win
98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.
Quit
one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the
system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh],
but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell
to
Win 98 and delete the partition. I have never had to do this
before.
Is it just a matter of going to Disk Management, highlighting the
volume letter and pressing delete? Also, will the freed disk
space
be
automatically added to F:/ drive? Unless, of course, someone
knows
of
another workaround I could try, short of physically removing some
RAM,
please?

Many thanks
Kate

Thanks for the confirmation, and to Andy for the warning.

Kate

"Bob I" wrote in message
...
That is Dual Boot.

Kate wrote:
How do I find out if I am using dual boot, please? When I boot the
computer, I am offered the choice of Win XP or Windows. XP is
first
and if I do nothing, the machine will start up XP in F: drive. I
have
to manually select "Windows" if I want to use Win98 in C: drive.
When
I am in XP, I can access C: drive directory with Windows Explorer,
but
when in Win98, I cannot access the XP directory.

Kate


"Andy" wrote in message
...

If you're using Microsoft dual boot, the Windows 98 partition
contains the boot files for Windows XP, so Disk Management won't
let you delete the partition. If you delete the partition using
other means, you won't be able to boot Windows XP.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:41:08 -0000, "Kate"

wrote:

My HD has two partitions : F:/ is the main one I use, running Win
XP
SP3, but the other uses Win 98SE. I very rarely use this
partition
and it was only created so that I could run old software. I
increased
RAM to 1.5 GB a while back, and when I tried to boot into Win
98SE
today, I got the "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows.
Quit
one
or more memory-resident programs..." message. I tried the
system.ini
workaround modification of adding MaxPhysPage=30000 to [386Enh],
but
that didn`t work, so I think I shall have to finally say farewell
to
Win 98 and delete the partition. I have never had to do this
before.
Is it just a matter of going to Disk Management, highlighting the
volume letter and pressing delete? Also, will the freed disk
space
be
automatically added to F:/ drive? Unless, of course, someone
knows
of
another workaround I could try, short of physically removing some
RAM,
please?

Many thanks
Kate