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  #31  
Old March 25th 18, 02:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Brian Gregory[_2_]
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Default KB4056894, and KB4074598 Microsoft updates problem

On 25/03/2018 05:48, Maurice Helwig wrote:

While others may have installed KB4088875 without any network problems,
I am not prepared to do so until it is fixed.
Have a look at --
https://www.askwoody.com/category/mi...ches-security/


Classic example of a scaremonger.

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  #32  
Old March 25th 18, 04:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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On 3/24/2018 9:48 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:

This morning (Sunday 2018-03-25) an optional update was presented for me
to install --

2018-03 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based
Systems (KB4088881)

I do not install Preview updates ever but a look at the MS information
site on this KB shows that the IP address issue is acknowledged by MS
and is yet to be fixed.

http://support.microsoft.com/help/4088881

While others may have installed KB4088875 without any network problems,
I am not prepared to do so until it is fixed.
Have a look at --
https://www.askwoody.com/category/mi...ches-security/

Can anyone tell me how to remove the "ALLOW REGKEY" which is required
for these updates to install.


Yes, I saw this yesterday. It seems to have many of the same
unacceptable "Known Issues" as KB4088875.

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  #33  
Old March 25th 18, 04:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default KB4056894, and KB4074598 Microsoft updates problem

On 3/25/2018 6:30 AM, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 25/03/2018 05:48, Maurice Helwig wrote:

While others may have installed KB4088875 without any network problems,
I am not prepared to do so until it is fixed.
Have a look at --
https://www.askwoody.com/category/mi...ches-security/


Classic example of a scaremonger.


I am a volunteer with AARP, doing U.S. and state income tax returns for
free. All AARP volunteers across the country use laptops supplied by
the Internal Revenue Service (ITS) and a software service for income
taxes contracted by the IRS. In almost all cases, we file tax returns
electronically.

The AARP team with which I volunteer works only on Wednesdays. We
received a warning early last week, not to allow any further Windows
updates because other teams that work on Mondays and Tuesdays had their
laptops "bricked" by automatic Windows updates.

Not allowing updates, however, required our area coordinator to visit
our facility and use an administrative password to change the Windows
Update settings. Not even our site coordinator was allowed to have that
password.

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First you say you do, and then you don't.
And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
From a 1950s song
That should be Donald Trump's theme song. He obviously
does not understand "commitment", whether it is about
policy or marriage.
  #34  
Old March 25th 18, 04:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default KB4056894, and KB4074598 Microsoft updates problem

In message , Paul
writes:
mike wrote:

That does work. But deciding which ones to hide is a daunting task.
All I could do is rely on lists posted by others.


That's how the current Quality Assurance system works.

[]
How should a user respond to this kind of delivery system ?

Barge pole, 10 foot long.

Apply the updates, sure. But some time after they're released.

Paul


Obviously only a rule of thumb, but do you have a value for "some time"
- two weeks so they're about half way between updates? Or as near as
possible to the _following_ month's ones, in the hope that as many bugs
as possible have been fixed?

Or do you not have a fixed value for it, but instead monitor forums,
usenet, and (it seems to me) lots of other places (such as askwoody), to
see what others are saying and doing? I'd rather not have to do that (-:
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Old March 25th 18, 05:23 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default KB4056894, and KB4074598 Microsoft updates problem

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
writes:
mike wrote:

That does work. But deciding which ones to hide is a daunting task.
All I could do is rely on lists posted by others.


That's how the current Quality Assurance system works.

[]
How should a user respond to this kind of delivery system ?

Barge pole, 10 foot long.

Apply the updates, sure. But some time after they're released.

Paul


Obviously only a rule of thumb, but do you have a value for "some time"
- two weeks so they're about half way between updates? Or as near as
possible to the _following_ month's ones, in the hope that as many bugs
as possible have been fixed?

Or do you not have a fixed value for it, but instead monitor forums,
usenet, and (it seems to me) lots of other places (such as askwoody), to
see what others are saying and doing? I'd rather not have to do that (-:


If you want, you have the option of backing up your C: drive,
blasting in all the updates, then testing.

If something is amiss, or the machine is bricked, restore
from backup.

When you're confident the update is good, you can "toss the backup image".

In other words, you can "do all the testing on your own dime".
And use the "statistics of one sample" to guide you.

If a second computer in the house needs updates, it's going
to need a backup too.

This is why it pays to keep your C: drive small, in the 45-60GB
range or so. And move your movie collection to your D: drive
for easier backup management.

To do the above on Windows 7, set Windows Update to manual,
so you can do the backup before "punching any buttons" in
Windows Update.

Paul
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Old March 26th 18, 09:40 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Maurice Helwig[_2_]
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Default KB4056894, and KB4074598 Microsoft updates problem

On 25/03/2018 11:25 PM, Paul wrote:
mike wrote:

That does work.Â* But deciding which ones to hide is a daunting task.
All I could do is rely on lists posted by others.


That's how the current Quality Assurance system works.

On Patch Tuesday, unsuspecting users (with Windows Update set to
full Auto) "test" the latest Cumulative Updates for us.

If a machine is bricked, or some strange behavior is
seen, it's reported in popular forums (or on USENET) so others
can benefit from the misfortune of the testers.

Then, Microsoft pulls the update, Microsoft visits the forum and
gets the list of problems, the developer works on it and re-releases
it. This avoids the need to dog-food the updates on Microsoft desktops,
or pay testers on the premises to do the testing.

The fact that Microsoft has the cheek to release Preview updates
for the month after, tells you how institutionalized this thinking is.
"We'll catch it in Field Test".

*******

How should a user respond to this kind of delivery system ?

Barge pole, 10 foot long.

Apply the updates, sure. But some time after they're released.

Â*Â* Paul


A good summary Paul. I do not mind if someone becomes a Beta tester for
MS or some other company, but I do object to being used as an unwilling
guinea pig. I expect the problems to be sorted out before they get to me
(occasional obscure ones excepted -- after all no ones perfect)

As of today the computers I look after have not hag an update since
December, Updates are turned off, and Images made with Macrium Reflect.

It will stay that way until MS fixes their problem.
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