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Old September 13th 17, 10:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status (404
and so on) in the received data -- it just displays whatever HTTP body is
send, making me none-the-wiser to any problems the server might have (which
currently is of some importance to me).

I've been looking for a setting to disable this behaviour (and be shown any
status other than 200), but have not been able to find anything (in the
browser itself or on Google).

Does anyone have an(y) idea ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old September 13th 17, 03:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
JJ[_11_]
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:16:13 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status (404
and so on) in the received data -- it just displays whatever HTTP body is
send, making me none-the-wiser to any problems the server might have (which
currently is of some importance to me).

I've been looking for a setting to disable this behaviour (and be shown any
status other than 200), but have not been able to find anything (in the
browser itself or on Google).

Does anyone have an(y) idea ?


IIRC, web servers can be configured/programmed to transparently redirect
network requests when they point to a non existing resource. i.e. without
spewing out any HTTP redirection response (statuc code 3xx).

What URL is that anyway?
  #3  
Old September 13th 17, 05:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

Hello JJ,

IIRC, web servers can be configured/programmed to transparently redirect
[snip]


The webserver isn't the problem. Its FireFox which is, as it does not tell
me it got another response than the "all OK" (200) one.

What URL is that anyway?


Currently its 127.0.0.1 (yes, its connected to my previous "don't search
from the addres bar" question, and I'm generating the status codes myself)
:-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s.
Drats! I thought I could maybe write a small GreaseMonkey script to read
the HTTP status and inject an element at the top of the page, but that
(reading the status) does not seem to be possible. :-(



-- Origional message:
"JJ" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:16:13 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status
(404
and so on) in the received data -- it just displays whatever HTTP body is
send, making me none-the-wiser to any problems the server might have
(which
currently is of some importance to me).

I've been looking for a setting to disable this behaviour (and be shown
any
status other than 200), but have not been able to find anything (in the
browser itself or on Google).

Does anyone have an(y) idea ?


IIRC, web servers can be configured/programmed to transparently redirect
network requests when they point to a non existing resource. i.e. without
spewing out any HTTP redirection response (statuc code 3xx).

What URL is that anyway?



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Old September 13th 17, 11:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

In message , R.Wieser
writes:
Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status (404

[]
Wow, I thought, someone using an older version than I (26) and willing
to admit it! But I'm guessing it was a mistype for 56 ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

As a child, I was interested in science, but thought that to understand
electricity it was best to experiment by sticking a pin into a plug socket. It
hurt, so I turned to the arts instead. - Robin Ince, RT 2017/1/14-20
  #5  
Old September 14th 17, 12:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Nil[_5_]
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

On 13 Sep 2017, "R.Wieser" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP
status (404 and so on) in the received data -- it just displays
whatever HTTP body is send, making me none-the-wiser to any
problems the server might have (which currently is of some
importance to me).

I've been looking for a setting to disable this behaviour (and be
shown any status other than 200), but have not been able to find
anything (in the browser itself or on Google).


Since you're using such an old version, you deserve whatever you get.
Recent versions since a long time ago exhibit no such behavior.
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Old September 14th 17, 01:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , R.Wieser
writes:
Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status
(404

[]
Wow, I thought, someone using an older version than I (26) and willing
to admit it! But I'm guessing it was a mistype for 56 ...


There's a plugin to show HTTP status like that,
but the output doesn't appear in a useful place.

A copy of Wireshark would be as useful.

Compiling Firefox so it supports debug mode,
can generate more output. But when I tested
that, no effort had been put into generating
useful messages, so that's a second dead end.
Doing a debug build now, mainly helps with using
something like WinDbg (so the IDE will work). The
code type has to match the debugger - Visual Studio
compilers work with WinDBG, gcc works with gdb etc.

I think the lack of this function, is "design intent".
Just like every home appliance, doesn't have a voltage
readout to verify the line voltage constantly. That would
be too useful.

Paul
  #7  
Old September 14th 17, 07:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
JJ[_11_]
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 19:41:43 -0400, Nil wrote:

Since you're using such an old version, you deserve whatever you get.
Recent versions since a long time ago exhibit no such behavior.


FF v6 doesn't show such problem either. I wonder why?
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Old September 14th 17, 08:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

John,

Wow, I thought, someone using an older version than I (26) and willing to
admit it!


Than you will be probably be shocked to hear that I only started to use it
last year or so. Before that it was FF 2 or something like that. Also,
my other webbrowser was, until a month a go, IE 5 on Win98se (RIP).

I do not believe in change for changes sake. As long as it works (and it
has/does) its good enough for me. :-)

And for the record, I took that version of FF from my now decomissioned
W98se machine (where its the last one that will work on it), and installed
it on a(n maybe as ancient) "new" machine I installed XP on. The thought
of downloading-and-installing a newer version did not even cross my mind ...

But I'm guessing it was a mistype for 56 ...


Nope, I typed and you read that right. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , R.Wieser
writes:
Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status (404

[]
Wow, I thought, someone using an older version than I (26) and willing to
admit it! But I'm guessing it was a mistype for 56 ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

As a child, I was interested in science, but thought that to understand
electricity it was best to experiment by sticking a pin into a plug
socket. It
hurt, so I turned to the arts instead. - Robin Ince, RT 2017/1/14-20



  #9  
Old September 14th 17, 08:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

Hello Paul,

There's a plugin to show HTTP status like that,


Yeah, during my bout of googeling I saw it mentioned too.

but the output doesn't appear in a useful place.


:-) As I read that it was some kind of developpers tool (meaning that I
would need to have some kind of "window" open all the time) I memory-filed
it and continued looking for a simpler/more usable solution.

I think the lack of this function, is "design intent".


Possible, but I also stumbled over some -- rather official looking -- forum
posts which indicated it was actually a bug, which was reported and handled
as such.

I also found a reference to "webRequest.onHeadersReceived", which would
allow a plugin to access the HTTP status. Maybe I will even try to build a
*very* simple plugin with it myself. After all, all it needs to do is to
inject a single element at the top of a HTML page. How hard can that be ?
(famous last words :-) )

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"Paul" wrote in message
news
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , R.Wieser
writes:
Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status
(404

[]
Wow, I thought, someone using an older version than I (26) and willing to
admit it! But I'm guessing it was a mistype for 56 ...


There's a plugin to show HTTP status like that,
but the output doesn't appear in a useful place.

A copy of Wireshark would be as useful.

Compiling Firefox so it supports debug mode,
can generate more output. But when I tested
that, no effort had been put into generating
useful messages, so that's a second dead end.
Doing a debug build now, mainly helps with using
something like WinDbg (so the IDE will work). The
code type has to match the debugger - Visual Studio
compilers work with WinDBG, gcc works with gdb etc.

I think the lack of this function, is "design intent".
Just like every home appliance, doesn't have a voltage
readout to verify the line voltage constantly. That would
be too useful.

Paul



  #10  
Old September 14th 17, 09:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

Ackk ... As I'm not actually limited to FF16 (thanks J.P. for making me
become aware of that) I can ofcourse see if a bit later version has the bug
fixed. I think that would be the easiest solution. :-D

Than again ... The last time I tried to find a list of fixes and features of
the different FF versions I got nowhere. :-(

In other words, it will probably be difficult (for me) to determine which
next version has the bug fixed (and has not introduced "features" that I do
not want -- the (IIR the name C) "lense" ad-supporting crap debacle
anyone -- at the same time).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old September 14th 17, 03:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

"R.Wieser" wrote in message
news
Hello all,

I've got FF 16 installed, and noticed that it ignores the HTTP status (404
and so on) in the received data -- it just displays whatever HTTP body is
send, making me none-the-wiser to any problems the server might have
(which currently is of some importance to me).

I've been looking for a setting to disable this behaviour (and be shown
any status other than 200), but have not been able to find anything (in
the browser itself or on Google).

Does anyone have an(y) idea ?


Web-Waster

404 Is a No Page Error
200 Is First Time To Here
300 is you can back

Hot-Text Love Htlm

Regard To Rudy Wieser

It Is A
HTTP/1.1: Status Code
Definitions
10.4 Client Error 4xx

If A Webmaster
Did Not Creating a Custom
404 error page

There Is No Page
For FF-6 To Written
A Log For

nor is there a
Page For The browser
To see

So
All browser written errors Page For its self,
A Error Page So You Can View it


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Old September 14th 17, 04:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"Hot-Text"
http://lazaras.linkpc.net/Web-Waster the received data
http://lazaras.linkpc.net:8080/Web-Waster none-the-wiser


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Old September 14th 17, 09:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

In message , R.Wieser
writes:
John,

Wow, I thought, someone using an older version than I (26) and willing to
admit it!


Than you will be probably be shocked to hear that I only started to use it
last year or so. Before that it was FF 2 or something like that. Also,
my other webbrowser was, until a month a go, IE 5 on Win98se (RIP).


Not RIP; I still use my 98SElite machine occasionally, with I think FF2.
Works fine for the site I mainly use it for. A few weeks ago I actually
used it to check something for real, as that machine was up and my XP
one needed a reboot.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The early worm gets the bird.
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Old September 15th 17, 09:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default FireFox - not mentioning a 404 status ?

John,

my other webbrowser was, until a month a go, IE 5 on Win98se (RIP).


Not RIP;


I ment to say there that *my* W98se machine -- which up until last month was
my main one, used every day -- is effectivily RIP.

Somehow it started to randomly freeze hard (which turned out to be most
likely a motherboard-related problem). And as its has become harder and
harder to keep it afloat (can't even buy me a simple PS/2 mouse or keyboard
anymore, and older SSL encryptions being dumped does not make it any easier
to stay online) I decided that it was time to (effectivily) lay it at rest.

So, here I am: on my "new" XP machine. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , R.Wieser
writes:
John,

Wow, I thought, someone using an older version than I (26) and willing
to
admit it!


Than you will be probably be shocked to hear that I only started to use it
last year or so. Before that it was FF 2 or something like that. Also,
my other webbrowser was, until a month a go, IE 5 on Win98se (RIP).


Not RIP; I still use my 98SElite machine occasionally, with I think FF2.
Works fine for the site I mainly use it for. A few weeks ago I actually
used it to check something for real, as that machine was up and my XP one
needed a reboot.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The early worm gets the bird.



 




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