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"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... HB wrote: "VanguardLH" wrote in message ... HB wrote: I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7. Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to add them every day when I check my email. Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but files stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the info was still there including deleted old email. And of course the same old problem of not saving passwords. Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so I can reinstall it fresh? Passwords are saved in an encrypted registry entry. If corrupted, the result is not entering the correct login credentials at the server so Outlook Express prompts for a new password. However, entering and remembering the new login credentials won't repair the corrupted registry entry. https://www.google.com/search?q=outl...ber%20password found: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...utlook-express Use method 3. 1. To create a new profile/identity I have to get new email accounts at Gmail or somewhere. It wont let me use the account names I already have. So that wont work. It doesn't explain how to use the old account's names and passwords with a new profile in OE, even AFTER I deleted one account to see if that would work. It didn't. Also, the info on the Tabs in EO are not the same as in the article. There is no "Info", then "account settings" under the File tab in OE. 2. As for the Key. I found it OK in the registry, but even following the simple directions, I get a "Unable to save permissions. Access is denied." I saw only 1 subkey key there though I have 4 accounts on this PC. So that will not work either. Moot since access is denied. The other info there was not for OE. The "save password" is grayed out. I have the same OE software on 4 different computers and this is the only one that is grayed out and will not save them. Googling brings up a lot of info that often doesn't work. That's why I ask on the NGs, hoping to find someone with first hand knowledge who tried something that worked for them. How can everything be removed from OE so I can install a fresh uncorrupt copy? Have any idea? That is short of doing a System Recovery. Outlook Express profiles have nothing to do with separate e-mail accounts. You can have many OE profiles and each could point to the same e-mail servers doing the same logins. You have to define what e-mail account to use within a profile. It can be the same or different e-mail account than specified in another profile. I couldn't believe what happened this morning. As mentioned I deleted one of the email accounts because I wanted to use the same name profile. I didn't know there was a way to direct a new one to an existing account since I saw no way to do that. I had no idea how to switch back when it asked me if I wanted to switch. When I opened OE not only was the deleted account THERE, but the passwords were as well. All mail downloaded without asking for the passwords for each one. I did nothing to make this happen. WTF? I've been online since 1995 and something like this never happened before. Not unless a program was uninstalled and reinstalled. Besides, method 3 is about deleting the registry entry that recorded the encrypted login credentials, not about creating new OE profiles. The MS article mentions having to change permissions on the registry key. You must be logged in under an admin-level account to use the registry and change permissions on the registry keys. As mention, I did that but I got an "Unable to save permissions. Access is denied." So apparently somthing happened to make it work again, no credit to myself. In a brave new world. when you log in, the login process creates a "token". The "token" is proof you logged in. Even if someone breaks into an account and changes the password, the "token" on a running process continues to maintain an authenticated state. For some tools, this means instead of storing the user password for them, the tool stores the token instead, and gives the impression it's handling authentication somehow. It all depends on the rules of expiry, as to how tokens are destroyed. Is time a factor ? Is number of window openings a factor ? These re all design decisions for the company allowing this sort of access. https://developers.google.com/gmail/api/auth/web-server "Exchange the authorization code for an access token This access token is passed to the Gmail API to grant your application access to user data for a limited time. " The fun part, is figuring out from the description, how it works. Paul |
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In message , HB writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , HB writes: I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7. Sorry, can't help with your problem, but the above interests me: I have a [] Can you tell us any more about your OE-that-works-on-7? And is it 7-32 or 7-64? It's 7-64. It works on W-10 also. I have the free copy that a website was giving away a few years ago. Now he charges for it. I have had no problems with the free version. The url is https://runasxp.com/ [] Thanks for coming back! I see, so it's not the original Microsoft product (I'm surprised they let him use the name!), but one created by someone else to look like the original. Looks better than the "OE Classic" one (and a _quick_ look didn't show any charge, though there is a donation button - though without downloading and trying it I can't say if it does charge). But good to know that that one works, and has for years for you (and now has even fixed itself against what you originally reported about the passwords!). Thanks again for coming back. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Does my Bradshaw look big in this? |
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In message , HB writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Mr. Man-wai Chang writes: On 10/3/2018 01:07, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Don't know, sorry. But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on Windows 7. [] Wasn't the original somehow connected to IE? There was no way as I underatand it, that it could be moved to another computer. [] The original - or rather the final - _Microsoft_ product, OE6, was indeed officially part of some IE version, and not downloadable separately, though I think could be (I _think_ the msimn.exe was sufficient?). Earlier versions of OE - I'm not sure up to which one - _were_ available separately, but that's going back a _long_ way. But it seems that the original poster here, HB, wasn't using the Microsoft product anyway, but one made by runasxp, but put forward by runasxp as if it is the original: well, nowhere does it _say_ that it is the original, but nowhere does it say (not in an obvious way, anyway) that it _isn't_, either. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Does my Bradshaw look big in this? |
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 00:31:23 -0500, "HB" wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , HB writes: I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7. Sorry, can't help with your problem, but the above interests me: I have a friend who is fond of OE, but is under the impression (as was I) that it won't work under 7. (There is that "OE Classic", of which the free version is rather limited and people here thought the paid version was flawed too, but I get the impression you aren't talking about that anyway.) One of the reasons my friend is staying on XP (though not the only one). Can you tell us any more about your OE-that-works-on-7? And is it 7-32 or 7-64? It's 7-64. It works on W-10 also. I have the free copy that a website was giving away a few years ago. Now he charges for it. I have had no problems with the free version. The url is https://runasxp.com/ OK, I now understand what you are running. But let me point out that in your first message in this thread, you should have explained what it was. It may look like Outlook Express, but it's not Outlook Express (which was a Microsoft product). It's a third-party product called "Outlook Express for Windows 7, 8 and 10." |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , HB writes: I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7. Sorry, can't help with your problem, but the above interests me: I have a friend who is fond of OE, but is under the impression (as was I) that it won't work under 7. (There is that "OE Classic", of which the free version is rather limited and people here thought the paid version was flawed too, but I get the impression you aren't talking about that anyway.) One of the reasons my friend is staying on XP (though not the only one). Can you tell us any more about your OE-that-works-on-7? And is it 7-32 or 7-64? It installs itself in Program files (x86) on W-7 and W-10. I have it on 4 machines and so far so good - except for the one apparently temporary problem of not remembering passwords on the W-7 DT. The spellchecker was free on some site I no longer remember. Add it to OEs folder and execute. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Beatrix Potter was a bunny boiler. - Patricia Routledge, on "Today" 2016-1-26 |
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"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message news HB wrote: I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7. Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to add them every day when I check my email. Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but files stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the info was still there including deleted old email. And of course the same old problem of not saving passwords. Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so I can reinstall it fresh? Don't know, sorry. But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on Windows 7. I have a copy that works on W-7 and W-10 flawlessly. It was free at the time. I don't know what the problem was but it's keeping the passwords now. |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , HB writes: I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7. Sorry, can't help with your problem, but the above interests me: I have a friend who is fond of OE, but is under the impression (as was I) that it won't work under 7. (There is that "OE Classic", of which the free version is rather limited and people here thought the paid version was flawed too, but I get the impression you aren't talking about that anyway.) One of the reasons my friend is staying on XP (though not the only one). Can you tell us any more about your OE-that-works-on-7? And is it 7-32 or 7-64? The PCs it works on are W-7 and W-10. But to work in W-10 you have to keep deleting the update that screws it up. Or you can run it from a Thumb drive. |
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"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message news HB wrote: I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7. Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to add them every day when I check my email. Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so I can reinstall it fresh? Don't know, sorry. But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on Windows 7. The website RunasXP. https://runasxp.com/ You make a donation for it now. At one time it was free. |
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On 10/03/2018 15:58, Ken Blake wrote:
... OK, I now understand what you are running. But let me point out that in your first message in this thread, you should have explained what it was. It may look like Outlook Express, but it's not Outlook Express (which was a Microsoft product). It's a third-party product called "Outlook Express for Windows 7, 8 and 10." Looks to me like like OE stolen from XP and patched/hacked to work on W7, W8 and W10. -- Brian Gregory (in England). |
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Brian Gregory
Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:48:07 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: On 10/03/2018 15:58, Ken Blake wrote: ... OK, I now understand what you are running. But let me point out that in your first message in this thread, you should have explained what it was. It may look like Outlook Express, but it's not Outlook Express (which was a Microsoft product). It's a third-party product called "Outlook Express for Windows 7, 8 and 10." Looks to me like like OE stolen from XP and patched/hacked to work on W7, W8 and W10. I haven't checked it out. I wasn't ever a fan of the program in the first place, so... -- Don't become the next David Brooks cyberstalking victim! Visit https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php (10/10 WOT) to learn more. If you've already become a victim or know someone who has, you can provide the following information to them, your lawyer, local law enforcement, etc. https://www.devon-cornwall.police.uk - His local police. Report? David Brooks (BoaterDave) Jersey Cottage 86 Granary Lane Budleigh Salterton Devon EX9 6ER United Kingdom Phone: 44-1395-443340 (H) 07974-193550 (M) Email(s): , |
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